Product request for more MKE items
Gentlemen, awesome job on the AT 94 series, truly my favorite imports at the moment. Thanks for the hard work bringing them to market and well done.
If you ever decide to bring in more variants, here are a few MKE sporting firearms that would be awesome if they came to market: (in priority order)
1. TUFAN-80 LINK
- Would need the same mods as AT94 but would be an awesome target rifle. Would be cool to market as a TSG1.
2. T94SD LINK
- Brought in as similar setup as AT94P with a standard 16 inch barrel installed vs. the short SD barrel.
3. T94KN - or whatever you want to call it, essentially a T94K with 3 lug barrel, you would need to have MKE spin out a MP5KN barrel without the threads for this. Should be doable as the have a variant already. LINK
4. 53 - short 5.56 variant as a pistol, but built on the MKE T-50 rifle with the integrated optics rail. LINK
5. T-12 - Though I don't think this will sell as well as the .308, it would be a cool model to have in the collection. LINK
I think Chris has left the building...
I think Chris has left the building...
No, I'm still here, I just have a far more occupying role in the company now and I have way less time for forums unfortunately.
MKE is owned by the turkish Military. It took us almost 2 years of working with them to design the AT94 series and build it so that it was importable. Since all that got finalized, it has taken them almost 15 months to provide us with a 1000 total pieces.
The reason for this is that MKE builds guns for their own military, police forces and other countries militaries and police forces in abundance....because they have the H&K licensing on the machines. Everything they build is full auto, i.e. not importable unless its military or LE sales in the US (thanks again bootleggers in the 30's, damn NFA). So they have to completely stop and restructure and start again when it comes time for our production because everything has to start from scratch as semi-automatic due to the regs. Because it brings their meat and potatoes of military production to a grinding halt, our orders have almost no priority to them.
Currently, ATI is having MKE focus on production of the P & K models already approved. Due to the restrictions on the carbines to make them importable, we're getting away from them because I'm just sitting on inventory right now, the rifles just haven't moved well at all. We are also in development of a pistol version of the .223, but again, we have to wait for them to make it for us, I've been licensed to send it to FTB for so long now I'll have to renew the license before they have the gun ready. That's all that's on the table with MKE for the present, we've invested great big heaping gobs of $ into their company and are still waiting for the return in our initial investment. If or until that happens, there will be no more new MKE models for commercial purchase in the US other than the K, P and maybe eventually this .223.
Thank you for the update and for perspective on what it takes to get these products here!
Again, Chris, thanks for taking the time to post this information. If everyone would just know how much work it involves to "make it happen", they would appreciate your work a little bit more.
I have had an SD version of the AT-94 9mm and a .308 version in for approval with the ATF for almost a year.
A little bit ago, I received a rejection from ATF on both models that included a sentence about the AT-94 A2 and the .223 AT-43 being approved in error and are now no longer importable.
There goes that. I talked to the licenser who approved them originally and gave us a sweet write up with images on what changes made them importable for 'sporting purposes.' Well, apparently when we did all the exact same stuff to the new models, the whole show went back to committee and they changed their minds.
They now say that because the stock and trigger grouping are welded together and not one complete unit from scratch, that it constitutes a separate pistol grip. Here's the wording per the document they sent us:
A separate pistol grip: - the T41 incorporates an integrated buttstock/trigger housing assembly. This assembly has been constructed by welding a separate buttstock and pistol grip assembly together to form a single component. Note: Although this configuration was previously approved ( See FTB#xxxxxxx) the approval was made in error. In order to be classified as a single component, a butt stock which incorporates an integral pistol grip must be newly manufactured as a single component, not made by attaching a pistol grip to a buttstock.
Due to the presence off a separate pistol grip, FTB has determined that the MKE AT-41 is not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable for sporting purposes and, therefore, is not suitable for importation into the United States.
So, when I saw that I contacted the licenser immediately regarding the AT-94 A2 and AT-43. He said the ones in the US were legally imported and can still be sold but there can be no new importation of these guns until we make the buttstock and trigger grouping 1 manufactured component. That's not going to happen. As I said before, we were getting away from these models but this really put the nail in the coffin. There's about 1000 AT-94 A2s in the US and only about 350 AT-43s. We're still receiving orders from our distributors for them here and there so we'll ship them till they're gone. Then that will be that.
First time I've ever gotten an official doc from the ATF that says they made a mistake. I have insisted and won that ATF provides ATI with a letter clarifying the two models (as this rejection letter was actually for the .308 gun, they just snuck that in there) and that the ones in the US are not illegal because they changed the importability classification. They said they'd do it, so we shall see.