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Real H&R Dipped in Plastic/Rubber?
3/22/2012 7:58:04 PM
Check this out! The description indicates the upper and lower are real H&R M-16 parts dipped in some sort of plastic. I wonder what the melting point is for the filler?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=278571340
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=278571340
3/22/2012 8:05:28 PM
pretty cool. I wonder what constitutes "unfit for service".
3/22/2012 8:18:18 PM
I have been checking that out, also shared a few emails with the seller. He's a good dude.
In all seriousness, you could probably toss that in an oven and cook it apart, then use a heat gun or torch to get the rest of the goo out.
Although its pretty damn cool as it sits.
In all seriousness, you could probably toss that in an oven and cook it apart, then use a heat gun or torch to get the rest of the goo out.
Although its pretty damn cool as it sits.
3/22/2012 8:19:28 PM
Yeah... I bet with a little bit of heat and a good pocketknife... I'm just sayin'.
3/22/2012 8:23:00 PM
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
3/22/2012 8:25:07 PM
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
3/22/2012 8:32:17 PM
Originally Posted By MarkRSims:
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
That's what I was thinking.....love to have it but scared at the same time.
3/22/2012 8:40:40 PM
the barrels are deemed "unfit for service" when they are gauges and they hit the NO GO on them. I think the barrels are chopped off half way, so they cannot be refitted into a weapon again.
3/22/2012 8:45:36 PM
Originally Posted By Fortis120:
That's what I was thinking.....love to have it but scared at the same time.
Originally Posted By MarkRSims:
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
That's what I was thinking.....love to have it but scared at the same time.
I think the safe bet would be to destroy the lower
and replace it with a NDS. Maybe braceman could reproduce the roll marks.
3/22/2012 9:19:08 PM
Originally Posted By MarkRSims:
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
Originally Posted By 57Octane:
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
If you melted all the goo off... wouldn't you be left with an unregistered machine gun?
Yep. I'd be for checking really close to make sure it wasn't that with the plastic still on.
Truth. Plus, if it's 2-ton epoxy, you ain't gonna melt it off.
Definitely not your usual 'rubber duck'.
3/22/2012 9:51:32 PM
Looks ike someone "bought it now"
3/22/2012 10:50:00 PM
Originally Posted By MarkRSims:
Looks ike someone "bought it now"
Looks ike someone "bought it now"
Betcha $50 the buyer works for the ATF. You can't just dip a machinegun in anything and call it demilled. Hell, you can't even bandsaw them anymore, they have to be torched.
3/22/2012 11:30:39 PM
Guys, if I am right, and I can only see this on my 2" blackberry screen, that's. What's called a rubber duck. Used for bayonet drills if I recall correctly. Made from SOME real unserviceable parts but not all. I doubt they would include a functional M16 lower encased in plastic. Shoot, H&R may have even made this rubber duck. Thus their company markings on it.
3/22/2012 11:44:44 PM
Originally Posted By WA-Tom:
Guys, if I am right, and I can only see this on my 2" blackberry screen, that's. What's called a rubber duck. Used for bayonet drills if I recall correctly. Made from SOME real unserviceable parts but not all. I doubt they would include a functional M16 lower encased in plastic. Shoot, HOUR may have even made this rubber duck. Thus their company markings on it.
Guys, if I am right, and I can only see this on my 2" blackberry screen, that's. What's called a rubber duck. Used for bayonet drills if I recall correctly. Made from SOME real unserviceable parts but not all. I doubt they would include a functional M16 lower encased in plastic. Shoot, HOUR may have even made this rubber duck. Thus their company markings on it.
the mag is definitely solid rubber, look at the broken tab, it's a rubber chunk taken out of it.
the upper is definitely not consistent with a rubber duck, those usually don't have a rear sight nor a channel to line up the sights to.
if it's a rubber duck, it's not the common one that we see all the time.
3/23/2012 5:23:15 AM
OK now that I am home, I have to agree that this isn't the common rubber duck. I am also willing to bet that some motivated, equipped and skilled person could turn this into a functioning machine gun with enough spare parts replacement.
3/23/2012 10:13:12 AM
Lower looks rubber to me.
Even the common USGI rubber ducks have intact Colt GI marks.... And they are solid rubber... Seen one break.
Even the common USGI rubber ducks have intact Colt GI marks.... And they are solid rubber... Seen one break.
3/23/2012 10:21:11 AM
Too bad I didn't see this earlier, the guy only lives a few miles from me.
3/23/2012 4:11:33 PM
Looks like there is a chunk missing out of the front pivot pin. I don't think the lower is aluminum. My guess is the ATF and the military had an understanding before any of these hit the civilian market.
But hey, I could be totally wrong.
But hey, I could be totally wrong.
3/23/2012 5:23:35 PM
Looks like molding marks inside the trigger area where the two halves come together?
I think it's probably just a hard rubber lower.
Still cool though!
I think it's probably just a hard rubber lower.
Still cool though!
