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Need info on SARCO M16A2 parts sets
8/4/2011 1:11:34 PM
Does anyone know anything about these kits? Is the barrel chrome-lined? $475 too much for what you get? Thx.
http://e-sarcoinc.com/originalcoltgim16a2completepartssets.aspx
http://e-sarcoinc.com/originalcoltgim16a2completepartssets.aspx
8/4/2011 2:43:59 PM
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
8/4/2011 11:01:02 PM
I'm going back and forth on the whole thing because of the non-chrome lined barrel. I may just save my $$. What kind of upper receiver came with your kit? thx.
8/4/2011 11:14:09 PM
Originally Posted By sjd996:
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
What color was your receiver? Did it have much finish left?
Thanks,
Ralph
8/5/2011 12:56:37 AM
In May the Colt A-2 kits were $425 and sale will probably come back around. Can offset cost of carrier selling off the modified kit piece although the chopped carrier will function fine. Think barrel was a Doublestar Hbar which is actually pretty decent but not chrome lined and are usually pretty darn accurate and a $200 item. Think you could do better buying NOS surplus parts when you find them but some have received great condition parts and some not so great. Typical luck of the draw but as stated above you can build a decent almost Colt A-2 clone pretty cheap and pretty quick. Could also sell the barrel and find an excellent condition Colt or FN A-2 barrel for just a little more. Good luck.
8/5/2011 6:43:40 AM
Originally Posted By F14ADC:
What color was your receiver? Did it have much finish left?
Thanks,
Ralph
Originally Posted By sjd996:
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
What color was your receiver? Did it have much finish left?
Thanks,
Ralph
The upper color matched the McKay lower very well. Couple of minor marks on it, was in good shape.
8/5/2011 6:45:59 AM
Originally Posted By NSTR:
I'm going back and forth on the whole thing because of the non-chrome lined barrel. I may just save my $$. What kind of upper receiver came with your kit? thx.
I'm going back and forth on the whole thing because of the non-chrome lined barrel. I may just save my $$. What kind of upper receiver came with your kit? thx.
Lack of chrome lining didn't bother me - the consensus seems to be that you get better accuracy without the chrome lining, and providing you clean it after you shoot it shouldn't be a problem. Upper was a Colt A2 in pretty good shape.
8/5/2011 7:19:44 AM
Originally Posted By sjd996:
The upper color matched the McKay lower very well. Couple of minor marks on it, was in good shape.
Originally Posted By F14ADC:
What color was your receiver? Did it have much finish left?
Thanks,
Ralph
Originally Posted By sjd996:
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
Just built one on a McKay lower.
No on the chrome lining.
You get the full-auto trigger parts (disconnector, hammer, trigger, selector) - 10 minutes of grinding and a quick weld solves that problem.
Stock was beat up, but useable. Handguards were worse, came with a broken tab, another tab broke when I installed them - ended up trashing them, found a cheap mil spec replacement. Rest of the parts were good to excellent condition (some smaller parts were new)
Bolt carrier is butchered, with bare metal (rusts quickly if you don't cold-blue it). It should work fine, but I ended up getting a new bolt carrier.
Goes together fast and easy, shoots very well. I ended up about $650 (plus a little shipping) - $475 for the kit, $75 for the lower, $20 for handguards, $70 for a M-16 bolt carrier. Overall I'm happy with it.
What color was your receiver? Did it have much finish left?
Thanks,
Ralph
The upper color matched the McKay lower very well. Couple of minor marks on it, was in good shape.
Thanks for the info. Got any pics of your rifle?
Ralph
8/5/2011 7:52:18 AM
You bring up a pretty good point. I was thinking that late last night. "I can always sell off the barrel in the EE". Then I checked out PK and saw that they carry a 20" Gov't profile Sabre Defense barrel for $249. So, following the math stated earlier: $475 for the kit + $249 for a new barrel - $100 (?) to sell the non-chrome barrel = a lot less than buying a Colt HBar. This is all assuming that I don't need to replace anything in the kit.
So, here's the next question - who makes a good 20" gov't profile chrome-lined barrel for the A2? Is the Sabre Defense one a good choice, or are there other, better choices? Thx.
So, here's the next question - who makes a good 20" gov't profile chrome-lined barrel for the A2? Is the Sabre Defense one a good choice, or are there other, better choices? Thx.
8/5/2011 8:04:06 AM
Bushmaster makes a govt profile barrel.
http://www.bushmaster.com/products.asp?cat=7
Personally, I dislike SARCO because they are hit or miss with their parts. I would shop the Equipment Exchange for your A2 parts and go from there.
Edit: Here is a pic of my A2
It is built upon a Colt A2 upper with an FNMI M16A2 barrel. The lower is an LRB with Colt internals, Bushmaster A2 stock and Colt hand guards.
http://www.bushmaster.com/products.asp?cat=7
Personally, I dislike SARCO because they are hit or miss with their parts. I would shop the Equipment Exchange for your A2 parts and go from there.
Edit: Here is a pic of my A2
It is built upon a Colt A2 upper with an FNMI M16A2 barrel. The lower is an LRB with Colt internals, Bushmaster A2 stock and Colt hand guards.
8/5/2011 8:15:35 AM
Originally Posted By F14ADC:
Thanks for the info. Got any pics of your rifle?
Ralph
Thanks for the info. Got any pics of your rifle?
Ralph
As requested:
8/5/2011 8:27:01 AM
Yes..Bushmaster, of course!
8/5/2011 8:27:39 AM
That's a nice picture. Your rifle looks great!
8/5/2011 10:36:13 AM
Originally Posted By NSTR:
That's a nice picture. Your rifle looks great!
That's a nice picture. Your rifle looks great!
+ 1 on both counts. Very good trigger discipline.
The receivers match nicely
Ralph
8/5/2011 9:31:08 PM
CDA your rifle looks real nice. MY LRB lowers seem darker than yours. Is it just the pic?
OP the Sabre Defense barrel is real good quality and were selling for much more not to long ago. I would think $200 is a fair price for a used Colt barrel, Hbar or govt profile any less call it gravy. I bought a Colt A-2 barrel off the EE in the last 6 months for $165 shipped and it's shooting better as time goes by and round count goes up. I did install a NOS Colt barrel nut on it that I had in stock and A-1 HG's. One that came with barrel was a little chewed up. Got it shooting an easy 2" 30 round group with NATO 62gr ammo at approximately 100 yds. Doubt if I can get any better but I'm gonna sure try. Probably work up some hand loads one day, pretty hot in the garage right now. I do have a pretty nice homebrewed Colt FCG in the lower. The three BM govt profile 1-7 barrels that I have used have all been great shooters. The PSA 20" upper looks priced to buy if in need. Many say BCM govt profile is good, I've only bought one BCM (16" lw middy) and I won't be doing that again. Might be alright shooting fast on the move where durability is more important than accuracy but I may have also bought the lemmon. Definately not a target shooter but hard to compare a 16" middy to an A-2. I still prefer Colt or FN when available.
OP the Sabre Defense barrel is real good quality and were selling for much more not to long ago. I would think $200 is a fair price for a used Colt barrel, Hbar or govt profile any less call it gravy. I bought a Colt A-2 barrel off the EE in the last 6 months for $165 shipped and it's shooting better as time goes by and round count goes up. I did install a NOS Colt barrel nut on it that I had in stock and A-1 HG's. One that came with barrel was a little chewed up. Got it shooting an easy 2" 30 round group with NATO 62gr ammo at approximately 100 yds. Doubt if I can get any better but I'm gonna sure try. Probably work up some hand loads one day, pretty hot in the garage right now. I do have a pretty nice homebrewed Colt FCG in the lower. The three BM govt profile 1-7 barrels that I have used have all been great shooters. The PSA 20" upper looks priced to buy if in need. Many say BCM govt profile is good, I've only bought one BCM (16" lw middy) and I won't be doing that again. Might be alright shooting fast on the move where durability is more important than accuracy but I may have also bought the lemmon. Definately not a target shooter but hard to compare a 16" middy to an A-2. I still prefer Colt or FN when available.
8/6/2011 9:08:02 AM
Originally Posted By Cdenmark:
CDA your rifle looks real nice. MY LRB lowers seem darker than yours. Is it just the pic?
OP the Sabre Defense barrel is real good quality and were selling for much more not to long ago. I would think $200 is a fair price for a used Colt barrel, Hbar or govt profile any less call it gravy. I bought a Colt A-2 barrel off the EE in the last 6 months for $165 shipped and it's shooting better as time goes by and round count goes up. I did install a NOS Colt barrel nut on it that I had in stock and A-1 HG's. One that came with barrel was a little chewed up. Got it shooting an easy 2" 30 round group with NATO 62gr ammo at approximately 100 yds. Doubt if I can get any better but I'm gonna sure try. Probably work up some hand loads one day, pretty hot in the garage right now. I do have a pretty nice homebrewed Colt FCG in the lower. The three BM govt profile 1-7 barrels that I have used have all been great shooters. The PSA 20" upper looks priced to buy if in need. Many say BCM govt profile is good, I've only bought one BCM (16" lw middy) and I won't be doing that again. Might be alright shooting fast on the move where durability is more important than accuracy but I may have also bought the lemmon. Definately not a target shooter but hard to compare a 16" middy to an A-2. I still prefer Colt or FN when available.
CDA your rifle looks real nice. MY LRB lowers seem darker than yours. Is it just the pic?
OP the Sabre Defense barrel is real good quality and were selling for much more not to long ago. I would think $200 is a fair price for a used Colt barrel, Hbar or govt profile any less call it gravy. I bought a Colt A-2 barrel off the EE in the last 6 months for $165 shipped and it's shooting better as time goes by and round count goes up. I did install a NOS Colt barrel nut on it that I had in stock and A-1 HG's. One that came with barrel was a little chewed up. Got it shooting an easy 2" 30 round group with NATO 62gr ammo at approximately 100 yds. Doubt if I can get any better but I'm gonna sure try. Probably work up some hand loads one day, pretty hot in the garage right now. I do have a pretty nice homebrewed Colt FCG in the lower. The three BM govt profile 1-7 barrels that I have used have all been great shooters. The PSA 20" upper looks priced to buy if in need. Many say BCM govt profile is good, I've only bought one BCM (16" lw middy) and I won't be doing that again. Might be alright shooting fast on the move where durability is more important than accuracy but I may have also bought the lemmon. Definately not a target shooter but hard to compare a 16" middy to an A-2. I still prefer Colt or FN when available.
It's just the pic as I took the picture outside in the sunlight. Here is a better picture to show how black it is.
8/16/2011 4:32:21 AM
Has anyone ordered Sarco's "Complete M16A2 Upper w/charging handle and complete bolt/carrier assembly"?
I'm trying to figure out if it's a complete unmolested bolt/carrier assembly, or if they helpfully ground it into uselessness by "converting" it into an AR carrier beforehand...
I'm trying to figure out if it's a complete unmolested bolt/carrier assembly, or if they helpfully ground it into uselessness by "converting" it into an AR carrier beforehand...
8/16/2011 12:34:29 PM
It's ground to AR-15 profile and bare metal. Still kit is a decent deal. Better deal when they are on sale for $425. Sell the AR-15ish carrier for $50ish on EE shipped and buy a Colt M-16 carrier and don't look back. This has been a popular mod on NJ and NY rifles for years and they will function fine. Lots get caught up in the M-16 carrier thing including myself but a properly installed gas key is all that really matters unless shooting FA. You can put a little blue on the bare metal but not really a wear point. Just keep it lubed.
8/17/2011 11:19:54 AM
Update: I ordered the parts set from SARCO. I also ordered from BM a 20" Gov't profile barrel about a week or so ago. I just got off the phone with BM customer service, and was informed that those barrels are on a 12-14 week backorder. So, I guess this project won't be completed for some time.
8/17/2011 11:46:51 AM
Originally Posted By NSTR:
Update: I ordered the parts set from SARCO. I also ordered from BM a 20" Gov't profile barrel about a week or so ago. I just got off the phone with BM customer service, and was informed that those barrels are on a 12-14 week backorder. So, I guess this project won't be completed for some time.
Update: I ordered the parts set from SARCO. I also ordered from BM a 20" Gov't profile barrel about a week or so ago. I just got off the phone with BM customer service, and was informed that those barrels are on a 12-14 week backorder. So, I guess this project won't be completed for some time.
I'd cancel the order and buy one of the surplus FN barrels. Not saying that the FN barrel would be better than the Bushmaster (I haven't used either, so I wouldn't know), but they are available.
8/17/2011 3:11:07 PM
Originally Posted By Evil_Ed:
Has anyone ordered Sarco's "Complete M16A2 Upper w/charging handle and complete bolt/carrier assembly"?
I'm trying to figure out if it's a complete unmolested bolt/carrier assembly, or if they helpfully ground it into uselessness by "converting" it into an AR carrier beforehand...
Has anyone ordered Sarco's "Complete M16A2 Upper w/charging handle and complete bolt/carrier assembly"?
I'm trying to figure out if it's a complete unmolested bolt/carrier assembly, or if they helpfully ground it into uselessness by "converting" it into an AR carrier beforehand...
I would be more interested if it were a military upper FN (preferred) or Colt.
Ralph
8/18/2011 1:00:20 AM
I'd cancel the order and buy one of the surplus FN barrels. Not saying that the FN barrel would be better than the Bushmaster (I haven't used either, so I wouldn't know), but they are available.
OP, Ohio Ordnance Works had real nice FN's for $175 and Colt's for $200 if in a hurry.. As stated I've used BM, Colt and FN and all have been great shooters. Only used the BM 1-7 twist so can't say on the 1-9. Think if I ordered the Colt kit I'd buy a Colt barrel personally and keep it all Colt but the lower receiver. One can never go wrong with a Colt A-2 clone in my opinion.
OP, Ohio Ordnance Works had real nice FN's for $175 and Colt's for $200 if in a hurry.. As stated I've used BM, Colt and FN and all have been great shooters. Only used the BM 1-7 twist so can't say on the 1-9. Think if I ordered the Colt kit I'd buy a Colt barrel personally and keep it all Colt but the lower receiver. One can never go wrong with a Colt A-2 clone in my opinion.
8/23/2011 5:36:02 AM
Originally Posted By F14ADC:
I would be more interested if it were a military upper FN (preferred) or Colt.
Ralph
Originally Posted By Evil_Ed:
Has anyone ordered Sarco's "Complete M16A2 Upper w/charging handle and complete bolt/carrier assembly"?
I'm trying to figure out if it's a complete unmolested bolt/carrier assembly, or if they helpfully ground it into uselessness by "converting" it into an AR carrier beforehand...
Has anyone ordered Sarco's "Complete M16A2 Upper w/charging handle and complete bolt/carrier assembly"?
I'm trying to figure out if it's a complete unmolested bolt/carrier assembly, or if they helpfully ground it into uselessness by "converting" it into an AR carrier beforehand...
I would be more interested if it were a military upper FN (preferred) or Colt.
Ralph
Huh? Are the M16A2 kits Sarco is selling, with an aftermarket barrel, not former USGI or foreign contract Colt/FN parts?
Edited - Ahhh...I see, you're right - the stripped one is clearly marked USGI while the complete one is not...ok, so they're not USGI/Colt/FN, so I'm no longer interested
Thanks for pointing that out, you just saved me some money...
8/23/2011 9:20:25 AM
My kit came in yesterday, and I'll post some pictures later. The stripped upper appears to be Colt and it doesn't look like it has ever been assembled. The handguards are in serviceable condition, although not pretty. Same for the stock. The bolt carrier has had a large portion ground/sawed out of it. My plan right now is to assemble the kit on a Aero lower when my local shop gets some in. I have a Colt barrel from Ohio Ordnance en route (Thank you for the heads up, guys!) and will probably sell off the non-chrome line one that came with the kit. I'll also replace the bolt with one from Daniel Defense which is also at my local shop. More to follow.
8/27/2011 2:34:48 PM
My SARCO A2 kit came in last week and I picked up my McKay receiver on Thursday. Overall the kit was a mixed bag. Barrel is new, and appears to be chrome lined. Handguards and stock show alot of use, although they were both functional. Grip looks brand new. Most small parts were decent shape - some new but mainly used but functionable. I had to replace a few that were worn out or messed up - e.g. the front sight post had a twist in it like someone tried to remove it with a pliers w/o releasing the detent. Rear sight body was is rough shape - rust and such.
The worst part is the upper - it is a Colt but it has been sandblasted to hell. The forward assist lost so much metal there was a sharp edge around the hole. The ejection port cover will not latch, and the whole thing rattles like heck on the lower. I will likely replace it - maybe see if SARCO will send me a replacement.
The worst part is the upper - it is a Colt but it has been sandblasted to hell. The forward assist lost so much metal there was a sharp edge around the hole. The ejection port cover will not latch, and the whole thing rattles like heck on the lower. I will likely replace it - maybe see if SARCO will send me a replacement.
8/27/2011 7:49:00 PM
Originally Posted By triode:
and the whole thing rattles like heck on the lower
and the whole thing rattles like heck on the lower
Mine did too on a McKay lower. o-ring on the front post solved that for under $1
8/29/2011 10:19:00 PM
Here's the kit as I got it. The barrel on the bottom is the Colt barrel I ordered from Ohio Ordnance, with the one on top being the non-chrome lined one. As you can see, the handguards and stock are a little worn but serviceable. In the second picture, you may notice some light grey spots on the inside of the receiver. That is real and not a trick of the camera. This is why my gunsmith and I believe this receiver has never been part of an assembled firearm. Up near where the rear sight is supposed to be, you can see 'CM'.
I think I got my money's worth. What do you guys think?
8/30/2011 10:58:17 AM
Looks really good.I would bet that upper has never been used too.What about the barrel from Ohio O., is it used any?I have been trying to
decide on one from them also.
decide on one from them also.
8/30/2011 3:25:14 PM
The Colt barrel is lightly used. My gunsmith stated that it has strong rifling and he suspects it has a low round count. When I ordered this barrel from Ohio Ordnance over three weeks ago, they had only a dozen or so Colt barrels ($199) left. They did have a number of FN barrels ($174) available. Don't wait too long!
8/30/2011 4:43:28 PM
Will do by tomorrow.I would be fine with either barrel,as long as it is good to go.Thanks for the pic.
9/3/2011 9:30:28 AM
Here is the kit that I received from SARCO all built up. The lower is made by Essential Arms. My hanguards and stock were in pretty rough shape too so I covered them with PU-truck bedliner. Oh, my barrel was made by DSC.
Pav
Pav
9/3/2011 10:41:38 AM
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
9/3/2011 11:13:53 AM
Originally Posted By Staticxd00d:
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
You have an awesome daughter if she wants a plain 20" A2!
9/3/2011 2:29:54 PM
Originally Posted By Staticxd00d:
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
I would not do the SARCO option.I think you could find a Colt A2 upper on the EE and either order a Colt barrel from Ohio Ordnance or keep an eye out on the EE for one.USGI HG's can be found for cheap as can A2 stocks.
9/3/2011 9:36:12 PM
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
You have an awesome daughter if she wants a plain 20" A2!
Originally Posted By Staticxd00d:
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
My daughter wants an A2... now I'm seriously considering the SARCO option, with the FN/Colt barrel from OHO. Then I would have a spare HBAR I could maybe do something else with for another build... yep, this is sounding more and more like a plan! :)
You have an awesome daughter if she wants a plain 20" A2!
Yeah, I gave her the options... showed her all of the pics... she thinks the 20" barrel, fixed stock, and carry handle just look right. The only difference is she wants an MOE handguard instead of the round one mine has. Oh... and she wants me to paint it with a striped b&w camo... I can live with that!
No on the Sarco? Just piece it together from EE and places here and there? I'll have to start hunting I reckon... what's wrong with the Sarco stuff? Those pics above look pretty good to me?
9/4/2011 7:48:45 AM
SARCO can be hit or miss. The upper I received from them was sandblasted to the point of being nearly unserviceable - the ejection port cover does not stay closed, and it is loose as hell. Sight parts were rusted and some of the small parts were worn beyond use. Stock is in rough shape. I am trying to get them to replace the upper - still waiting to hear back. This was the opposite experience of the A1 kit.
Bottomline is you could do better.
Bottomline is you could do better.
9/4/2011 1:41:37 PM
Originally Posted By triode:
SARCO can be hit or miss. The upper I received from them was sandblasted to the point of being nearly unserviceable - the ejection port cover does not stay closed, and it is loose as hell. Sight parts were rusted and some of the small parts were worn beyond use. Stock is in rough shape. I am trying to get them to replace the upper - still waiting to hear back. This was the opposite experience of the A1 kit.
Bottomline is you could do better.
SARCO can be hit or miss. The upper I received from them was sandblasted to the point of being nearly unserviceable - the ejection port cover does not stay closed, and it is loose as hell. Sight parts were rusted and some of the small parts were worn beyond use. Stock is in rough shape. I am trying to get them to replace the upper - still waiting to hear back. This was the opposite experience of the A1 kit.
Bottomline is you could do better.
I saw a handful of their sandblasted uppers that were badly pitted.
9/4/2011 4:32:41 PM
Okay then, good advice guys, I appreciate it. :)
9/4/2011 11:05:17 PM
Sarco has been good to me but everytime I recommend them they seem to screw somebody. I have been dealing with them for a long time with success but I'd also have to agree on the hunting up Colt or FN parts idea. (A) Much more fun, (B) money can be spent a little at a time and (C) you can definately do better price wise if you shop a little and you won't have to sell or give away some of the pieces.
There was a guy coming to our local funshow with a trailer full of NOS FN M-16 parts but he seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth. If our troops ever come home which will lose our foothold on the oil and black market drug business figure major tonage of A-2 parts for cheap and all those turning major profits at a few soldiers and tax payers expense aren't ready for that anytime soon would be my bet. Think of 2 million nice new M-4's replacing 2 million good used A-2's. That's a whole lot of surplus parts becoming available in the future.
There was a guy coming to our local funshow with a trailer full of NOS FN M-16 parts but he seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth. If our troops ever come home which will lose our foothold on the oil and black market drug business figure major tonage of A-2 parts for cheap and all those turning major profits at a few soldiers and tax payers expense aren't ready for that anytime soon would be my bet. Think of 2 million nice new M-4's replacing 2 million good used A-2's. That's a whole lot of surplus parts becoming available in the future.
9/6/2011 12:49:57 PM
I did speak to SARCO today. Earl, their M16 guys, said to send back the upper and they will replace it as needed. I will post how it turns out. I am finding phone calls work better than emails with the folks in NJ.
9/6/2011 1:02:32 PM
Originally Posted By triode:
I did speak to SARCO today. Earl, their M16 guys, said to send back the upper and they will replace it as needed. I will post how it turns out. I am finding phone calls work better than emails with the folks in NJ.
I did speak to SARCO today. Earl, their M16 guys, said to send back the upper and they will replace it as needed. I will post how it turns out. I am finding phone calls work better than emails with the folks in NJ.
They are in Pa now.
Good Luck!
9/8/2011 2:09:01 AM
Ohio ordnance seems out of barrels. do show a FN barreled upper for $325. May go that route instead of the sarco and just need a buttstock assy.Thanks for the info here.
9/23/2011 9:21:50 PM
I RMA'd the upper to SARCO - took about 2 weeks and they sent a replacement. Somewhat better shape but definately has been sandblasterd and re-anodized. I found a clean Colt A2 upper on GB with a sight; I ended up using that one instead of the SARCO one. It was a good match for the McCay lower, and no rattle.
