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Herters at Cabelas
4/11/2012 9:33:54 AM
I looked and didnt see a topic for this. It's an OK pricepoint, it's always available and in stock.
Comes in .223, steel cased
Crappy? Ok? Probably not good, but "GOOD?"
Plinking ammo, ammo to stock pile long term. Thoughts?
Comes in .223, steel cased
Crappy? Ok? Probably not good, but "GOOD?"
Plinking ammo, ammo to stock pile long term. Thoughts?
4/11/2012 9:44:54 AM
Herters=rebranded Tula. Avoid....stick with the Bear/WPA.
4/11/2012 9:49:43 AM
Good to know!!! i ran about 20 -40 rounds when i first got it, seemed to cycle fine, then i had a bod of American Eagle Federal 5.56 stuff i ran through, and now Ultramax ( lake city ) ammo... seems even buying a huge bulk can of ammo doesnt make the price go down ( i want to be around 25 cents a round if i can )
4/11/2012 9:51:07 AM
Please stay away...
More for me.
I've had no problems. I'm not going to look $3.33 ammo in the teeth. It shoots well in my mutts.
More for me.
I've had no problems. I'm not going to look $3.33 ammo in the teeth. It shoots well in my mutts.
4/11/2012 9:53:41 AM
I picked up two boxes a few weeks ago and had a couple of short strokes with it. Never had any stuck casings or other serious issues with it though. I'd only ever use it for range shooting if I bought it in bulk.
4/11/2012 9:59:25 AM
I did the plastic box buy. I had many (12+) stuck cases in my S&W MP 15 in the first 5 boxes I shot. I cannot give it a recomendation.
4/11/2012 10:05:13 AM
The stuff I bought was pretty bad.
Underpowered and lots of sparks coming out the muzzle. It would short stroke most of my guns that normally run just fine on Wolf. It did shoot fine out of my Saiga though.
I also wouldn't recommend it.
Underpowered and lots of sparks coming out the muzzle. It would short stroke most of my guns that normally run just fine on Wolf. It did shoot fine out of my Saiga though.
I also wouldn't recommend it.
4/11/2012 2:18:06 PM
I'll use the "how much do I have to spend and what am I using it for" descretion
Afternoon in the pit shooting with friends "Herters"
End of the world stock pile "Whatever was a good buy that week"
Sighting in my rifle, serious target shooting "American Eagle Lake City"
Afternoon in the pit shooting with friends "Herters"
End of the world stock pile "Whatever was a good buy that week"
Sighting in my rifle, serious target shooting "American Eagle Lake City"
4/11/2012 2:20:03 PM
Think of it this way. Tula & Herters are unwarranteed wolf ammo.
If anything goes wrong, your fucked.
If anything goes wrong, your fucked.
4/12/2012 10:32:33 AM
Never shot any .223 Herters, but their 7.62x39 runs flawlessly in my Yugo SKS.
I pick it up when it's on sale for a good price. I'm not planning on doing any precision shooting with my SKS.
I pick it up when it's on sale for a good price. I'm not planning on doing any precision shooting with my SKS.
4/12/2012 12:04:15 PM
Read the box. I looked at some Herters 9mm yesterday, reboxed Sellier & Bellot. The case was headstamped Herters, but it was produced by S&B. I always thought Herters was just reboxed Tula as well, but it seems that they're more of a Wolf situation; reboxing multiple places' ammo as their own. Just FYI.
4/12/2012 12:13:41 PM
ive shot the black box herters in 9mm. shot fine.
4/13/2012 9:42:51 AM
The 'black box' premium Herters ammo seems to be rebranded S&B or Privi Partisan stuff. I had a couple boxes of .38 special that were straight-up PPU headstamped.
The steel cased stuff has been fine for me, and I have shot both the .308 and .223 variety. I picked up a bunch of the .308 for $6-7 a box a while back, and will pick up the .223 if its $5 a box or under. Accuracy has been so-so with both....but fine for playing at the range. Right now I can get Wolf / WPA locally cheap enough, so thats what I am blasting away with.
The steel cased stuff has been fine for me, and I have shot both the .308 and .223 variety. I picked up a bunch of the .308 for $6-7 a box a while back, and will pick up the .223 if its $5 a box or under. Accuracy has been so-so with both....but fine for playing at the range. Right now I can get Wolf / WPA locally cheap enough, so thats what I am blasting away with.
4/13/2012 9:13:43 PM
I have shot over 500 rounds of the stuff. I had one box which caused a few malfunctions, but other than that it has been ok for range use. Not particularly accurate, but it is the cheapest HP I can find in the stores locally.
4/14/2012 12:47:32 AM
-1 for me on the Herters. I've shot 500 rounds this month. Had 2 stuck cases in a bushy. First time in 7-8 years. I cleaned rifle extensively after the second jam. Rifle probably has 7k rounds (5k Wolf Steel) through it and never jams or has failure to extract. 2 totally stuck casings in a 10 mag string is too many for me. I will only be shooting my remaining Heters with a very clean rifle and in a plinking situation.
4/14/2012 9:35:59 AM
I've shot 10-12 boxes of herters somebody gave me. Ran just fine in my carbine.
4/14/2012 10:08:27 AM
I went through a couple cases with no failures of any kind, in 4-5 rifles. I believe any ammo related to Tula can sometimes be trusted, sometimes not. I did not know Herters was affiliated with Tula when I bought mine, the price was cheap and mine shot ok, albeit weak and dirty.
Seems, it must be hit and miss with quality control (which sounds scary), but I am unaware of any kabooms (so far). Poor quality control in ammo is not something to rely on, mine was bought for blasting and it did ok (in this case). I would not stock up on this stuff, nor stash it.
Seems, it must be hit and miss with quality control (which sounds scary), but I am unaware of any kabooms (so far). Poor quality control in ammo is not something to rely on, mine was bought for blasting and it did ok (in this case). I would not stock up on this stuff, nor stash it.
4/14/2012 1:47:29 PM
edt: Not Herters brand but ill throw this out there.
Right at a year ago some friend and i, (3 being arfcom members) (one is a Mod. on this site) and we were shooting his new LaRue 7.62 OBR , i bought a box of fedreral gold match ammo and when it ran out another guy had a bulk box of Cabelas .308 brass hunting round, put 5 rounds in the mag and on the second round the OBR went KABOOM, blow the bottem of the mag out burning a hole in the pad it was setting on and locked the bolt up, it was a very scary moment. The gun went back to LaRue for inspection and the complete upper was replaced for free. So now none of us will shoot ammo sold under the Cabelas name.
Right at a year ago some friend and i, (3 being arfcom members) (one is a Mod. on this site) and we were shooting his new LaRue 7.62 OBR , i bought a box of fedreral gold match ammo and when it ran out another guy had a bulk box of Cabelas .308 brass hunting round, put 5 rounds in the mag and on the second round the OBR went KABOOM, blow the bottem of the mag out burning a hole in the pad it was setting on and locked the bolt up, it was a very scary moment. The gun went back to LaRue for inspection and the complete upper was replaced for free. So now none of us will shoot ammo sold under the Cabelas name.
4/14/2012 2:12:47 PM
Ive shot several thousand rounds of Tula 223 across several ARs and it's cheap, dirty ammo that has worked exactly as it's supposed to. It is no PMC Bronze or AE223 equivalent, but if you want cheap plinking ammo, from my experience it has been fine.
4/14/2012 10:29:28 PM
After numerous threads on the subject this is the consensus:
Get a couple of boxes, if its runs in your rifle then great.
It's good, cheap plinking ammo.
It's a bit underpowered.
It will not work with the bumpfire stock.
4/14/2012 10:43:34 PM
Originally Posted By big-Al:
edt: Not Herters brand but ill throw this out there.
Right at a year ago some friend and i, (3 being arfcom members) (one is a Mod. on this site) and we were shooting his new LaRue 7.62 OBR , i bought a box of fedreral gold match ammo and when it ran out another guy had a bulk box of Cabelas .308 brass hunting round, put 5 rounds in the mag and on the second round the OBR went KABOOM, blow the bottem of the mag out burning a hole in the pad it was setting on and locked the bolt up, it was a very scary moment. The gun went back to LaRue for inspection and the complete upper was replaced for free. So now none of us will shoot ammo sold under the Cabelas name.
edt: Not Herters brand but ill throw this out there.
Right at a year ago some friend and i, (3 being arfcom members) (one is a Mod. on this site) and we were shooting his new LaRue 7.62 OBR , i bought a box of fedreral gold match ammo and when it ran out another guy had a bulk box of Cabelas .308 brass hunting round, put 5 rounds in the mag and on the second round the OBR went KABOOM, blow the bottem of the mag out burning a hole in the pad it was setting on and locked the bolt up, it was a very scary moment. The gun went back to LaRue for inspection and the complete upper was replaced for free. So now none of us will shoot ammo sold under the Cabelas name.
I have never heard of ammo being sold under the cabelas name?
Did you post a thread about that? I remember seeing a OBR Kaboom thread, but never an update
4/14/2012 11:26:01 PM
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
I have never heard of ammo being sold under the cabelas name?
Did you post a thread about that? I remember seeing a OBR Kaboom thread, but never an update
Originally Posted By big-Al:
edt: Not Herters brand but ill throw this out there.
Right at a year ago some friend and i, (3 being arfcom members) (one is a Mod. on this site) and we were shooting his new LaRue 7.62 OBR , i bought a box of fedreral gold match ammo and when it ran out another guy had a bulk box of Cabelas .308 brass hunting round, put 5 rounds in the mag and on the second round the OBR went KABOOM, blow the bottem of the mag out burning a hole in the pad it was setting on and locked the bolt up, it was a very scary moment. The gun went back to LaRue for inspection and the complete upper was replaced for free. So now none of us will shoot ammo sold under the Cabelas name.
edt: Not Herters brand but ill throw this out there.
Right at a year ago some friend and i, (3 being arfcom members) (one is a Mod. on this site) and we were shooting his new LaRue 7.62 OBR , i bought a box of fedreral gold match ammo and when it ran out another guy had a bulk box of Cabelas .308 brass hunting round, put 5 rounds in the mag and on the second round the OBR went KABOOM, blow the bottem of the mag out burning a hole in the pad it was setting on and locked the bolt up, it was a very scary moment. The gun went back to LaRue for inspection and the complete upper was replaced for free. So now none of us will shoot ammo sold under the Cabelas name.
I have never heard of ammo being sold under the cabelas name?
Did you post a thread about that? I remember seeing a OBR Kaboom thread, but never an update
Their was a thread about it in the LaRue forum posted by" M4madness" the owner of the OBR and i just text "enormjson" asking him what the ammo was and he says cabelas bulk ammo, i looked on the cabelas website and it might be Ultramax im not sure.
4/15/2012 8:02:47 PM
Plinking- Herters ( tula)
Stock Pile, anything Lake City ( prefer Green tip )
Now that I have my 22 conversion kit i dont shoot hardly any 556 or 223, so im just stock piling. Thanks!
Stock Pile, anything Lake City ( prefer Green tip )
Now that I have my 22 conversion kit i dont shoot hardly any 556 or 223, so im just stock piling. Thanks!
4/15/2012 10:05:30 PM
I shot 5 boxes of it, and it was all Tula... My buddy shoots Herter's in his Chinese SKS and it runs flawlessly with it... The 7.62 was Wolf, my .223HP was all Tula but it cycled perfectly, just shot the last of the 5 boxes I got today... All the Cabela's Herters brand ammo MFR varies by caliber...
4/15/2012 11:05:06 PM
OP... a lot of people here either don't realize, or are naive of the fact that underpowered ammo, such as herters, will shoot fine in your rifle. You may need to clean your rifle first to avoid stuck cases. If your rifle short strokes and uses H buffer or heavier just put in a lighter buffer such as a carbine buffer. As someone recommended, you should buy a few boxes and see how they run. If it doesn't work properly your best bet is a lighter buffer. If you are already using a carbine buffer, idk.
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4/15/2012 11:09:09 PM
DT...Cell phones are not the greatest to use for posting.
