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Do you guys cock the hammer and put the safety on or leave the hammer uncocked to pivot the upper?
11/7/2011 3:55:31 PM
When you pivot the upper up and leave the front connected, do you leave the hammer cocked and safety on or do you just leave the hammer down? I was trying to get away without having to dry fire the gun after cleaning, for storage.
11/7/2011 4:05:00 PM
Originally Posted By DNS:
When you pivot the upper up and leave the front connected, do you leave the hammer cocked and safety on or do you just leave the hammer down? I was trying to get away without having to dry fire the gun after cleaning, for storage.
When you pivot the upper up and leave the front connected, do you leave the hammer cocked and safety on or do you just leave the hammer down? I was trying to get away without having to dry fire the gun after cleaning, for storage.
Why?
It doesn't matter if the hammer is back or not. I think mine are all locked back, but not for any other reason than I prefer to keep everything on safe (not for any real or imagined reason).
11/7/2011 6:34:09 PM
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
11/7/2011 6:39:59 PM
Originally Posted By kaos:
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
11/7/2011 6:44:26 PM
Originally Posted By ishoot2live:
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
Originally Posted By kaos:
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
Springs don't weaken from being compressed. They weaken from cycling. That's also why it's ok to keep mags loaded.
11/7/2011 7:33:25 PM
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Springs don't weaken from being compressed. They weaken from cycling. That's also why it's ok to keep mags loaded.
Originally Posted By ishoot2live:
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
Originally Posted By kaos:
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
Springs don't weaken from being compressed. They weaken from cycling. That's also why it's ok to keep mags loaded.
Oh, Ok.
That was told to me by a Colt Armorer.
I keep mags loaded and I've never had any issues.
On the other hand, the Armorer did say that it was different for M16 and AR hammer springs for long storage periods.
11/7/2011 7:38:09 PM
Originally Posted By ishoot2live:
Oh, Ok.
That was told to me by a Colt Armorer.
I keep mags loaded and I've never had any issues.
On the other hand, the Armorer did say that it was different for M16 and AR hammer springs for long storage periods.
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Springs don't weaken from being compressed. They weaken from cycling. That's also why it's ok to keep mags loaded.
Originally Posted By ishoot2live:
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
Originally Posted By kaos:
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
I put my thumb on the hammer and ease it back before I put it away.
I have no reason to leave the hammer cocked without a round in the chamber, and I have no reason to leave a round in the chamber except for my HD weapon.
All the rest are stored with full mags, empty chamber and hammer released.
This.
Also, storing for long periods puts unneeded stress on the hammer spring.
Springs don't weaken from being compressed. They weaken from cycling. That's also why it's ok to keep mags loaded.
Oh, Ok.
That was told to me by a Colt Armorer.
I keep mags loaded and I've never had any issues.
On the other hand, the Armorer did say that it was different for M16 and AR hammer springs for long storage periods.
That makes no sense. Springs are springs.
11/7/2011 8:18:52 PM
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
That makes no sense. Springs are springs.
That makes no sense. Springs are springs.
Yep, your car is a great example too.
11/7/2011 8:22:01 PM
After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
11/7/2011 9:56:12 PM
Originally Posted By hellbound:
After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
I'm not trying to be the jerk who beats the dead horse....After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
I can be an unintentional jerk with no horses around anyway.
I never saw the point of a cocked hammer on an unloaded weapon, unless you function check with a loaded mag.
Loading a round cocks the hammer.
loading a weapon that already had a cocked hammer doesn't save time.
If I'm missing something, let me know. I respect the other stuff I've learned reading your stuff.
Other than that, it's your weapon, and none of my business. I just want to know if I'm doing something that's going to cost me later.
11/7/2011 10:19:03 PM
Originally Posted By kaos:
I can be an unintentional jerk with no horses around anyway.
I never saw the point of a cocked hammer on an unloaded weapon, unless you function check with a loaded mag.
Loading a round cocks the hammer.
loading a weapon that already had a cocked hammer doesn't save time.
If I'm missing something, let me know. I respect the other stuff I've learned reading your stuff.
Other than that, it's your weapon, and none of my business. I just want to know if I'm doing something that's going to cost me later.
Originally Posted By hellbound:
After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
I'm not trying to be the jerk who beats the dead horse....
After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
I can be an unintentional jerk with no horses around anyway.
I never saw the point of a cocked hammer on an unloaded weapon, unless you function check with a loaded mag.
Loading a round cocks the hammer.
loading a weapon that already had a cocked hammer doesn't save time.
If I'm missing something, let me know. I respect the other stuff I've learned reading your stuff.
Other than that, it's your weapon, and none of my business. I just want to know if I'm doing something that's going to cost me later.
I think you misread it.
Hammer down != cocked
11/7/2011 11:13:06 PM
Originally Posted By hellbound:
I think you misread it.
Hammer down != cocked
Thanks for being patient with me.Originally Posted By kaos:
I can be an unintentional jerk with no horses around anyway.
I never saw the point of a cocked hammer on an unloaded weapon, unless you function check with a loaded mag.
Loading a round cocks the hammer.
loading a weapon that already had a cocked hammer doesn't save time.
If I'm missing something, let me know. I respect the other stuff I've learned reading your stuff.
Other than that, it's your weapon, and none of my business. I just want to know if I'm doing something that's going to cost me later.
Originally Posted By hellbound:
After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
I'm not trying to be the jerk who beats the dead horse....After I assemble my ARs, I always function check them which leaves the hammer down.
Then I close the dust cover and put them away.
I can be an unintentional jerk with no horses around anyway.
I never saw the point of a cocked hammer on an unloaded weapon, unless you function check with a loaded mag.
Loading a round cocks the hammer.
loading a weapon that already had a cocked hammer doesn't save time.
If I'm missing something, let me know. I respect the other stuff I've learned reading your stuff.
Other than that, it's your weapon, and none of my business. I just want to know if I'm doing something that's going to cost me later.
I think you misread it.
Hammer down != cocked
11/8/2011 5:19:09 AM
I store my AR rack safe. Safety off, dry fired. I learned that in the military and continue that now. No magazine in it. HD weapons are not kept this way.
11/8/2011 5:43:24 AM
Well, I pull the charging handle to the rear to insure it has an empty chamber and then, after letting the bolt go forward I pop the pins and open it up. So yes, the hammer is cocked. If I'm going all the way (separating the upper and lower receivers for cleaning/work I'll go ahead and use my fingers on the left hand to hold the trigger back while I pull the trigger (to let the hammer forward slowly so I can clean and lube the lower receiver parts).
11/8/2011 8:54:27 AM
All stored hammer down (that would be uncocked).
Just pull the trigger to get to that point.
Just pull the trigger to get to that point.
