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How can I identify my AK? Apparently mine isn't what I thought it was...* Now With Pics!*
5/30/2010 10:13:47 PM
I've had a "Yugoslavian" AK now for about 3 years that I had purchased not knowing anything about AK's. Today I was at the range, and there were some other people next to me that also had a numerous varity of AK's. After a while of shooting, they asked me what type of AK I have, I said it was a Yugo, they looked at it and said that my gun didn't have any markings or identification marks to prove it. I said hmm...interesting...So how do I determine my AK's origins? I can post of some pics of my AK if you guys think it would help. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
*Edit* Here are some pics of the AK.
Left Side
Right Side
*Edit* Here are some pics of the AK.
Left Side
Right Side
5/30/2010 10:17:41 PM
Post pics...answers will follow
5/31/2010 1:22:12 AM
Definately +1.
Naturally, some of the Yugo kits both Century and other vendors built utilizing the US-made receivers didn't have any tell-tale specific "Yugoslavia" markings. Some did, some didn't. However, one of the ways you can tell pretty definately about the barrel assembly is the fact that the Yugo rifles utilized the "three vent" or "three hole" handguards on the sides. That's a good indicator, as below:
(photo from Tantal's website)
Also, the receiver will almost always be "bulged" or reinforced on the sides kind of near the rear sight base and lower handguard. The one below shows the bulge and is void of the "Yugoslavia" on the rear sight base and numbers on the trunnion (but has markings on the receiver as it's a pre-ban import):
(photo from Mouseguns)
But certainly some of the bulds were done with "slabsided" kits - those void of the reinforced trunnion or "bulge" and were basically built utilizing a standard receiver. Also important to note - Century, in their infinite wisdom, couldn't get any more of the unique Yugo receivers a while back and simply modified the "bulged" receiver kits to fit into a standard non-"bulged" receiver by grinding down the trunnions. Here's one someone did on a standard receiver by grinding down the trunnions to make it fit:
(photo from Andregun)
Some good photos, particulary of the left side of the rifle, will seal the deal on what you have.
Naturally, some of the Yugo kits both Century and other vendors built utilizing the US-made receivers didn't have any tell-tale specific "Yugoslavia" markings. Some did, some didn't. However, one of the ways you can tell pretty definately about the barrel assembly is the fact that the Yugo rifles utilized the "three vent" or "three hole" handguards on the sides. That's a good indicator, as below:
(photo from Tantal's website)
Also, the receiver will almost always be "bulged" or reinforced on the sides kind of near the rear sight base and lower handguard. The one below shows the bulge and is void of the "Yugoslavia" on the rear sight base and numbers on the trunnion (but has markings on the receiver as it's a pre-ban import):
(photo from Mouseguns)
But certainly some of the bulds were done with "slabsided" kits - those void of the reinforced trunnion or "bulge" and were basically built utilizing a standard receiver. Also important to note - Century, in their infinite wisdom, couldn't get any more of the unique Yugo receivers a while back and simply modified the "bulged" receiver kits to fit into a standard non-"bulged" receiver by grinding down the trunnions. Here's one someone did on a standard receiver by grinding down the trunnions to make it fit:
(photo from Andregun)
Some good photos, particulary of the left side of the rifle, will seal the deal on what you have.
5/31/2010 1:31:43 AM
Pics will do the job, especially with the various knowledge base here.
You could have a different brake, FSB, Gas Block, trunion, bolt, etc and I bet between everyone here, each part can be identified.
You could have a different brake, FSB, Gas Block, trunion, bolt, etc and I bet between everyone here, each part can be identified.
5/31/2010 5:55:44 PM
Pics Are Up!
5/31/2010 6:03:17 PM
It appears you have a Yugoslavian M70B1 kit built into a rifle by Century. Your trunnion has had the markings ground off probably by Century to eleviate confusion with the NDS receiver number.
Live long and prosper with your Yugoslavian M70B1 clone rifle.
Live long and prosper with your Yugoslavian M70B1 clone rifle.
5/31/2010 7:03:05 PM
A clone? Interesting...So it looks like a Yugo, but isn't? Would something like this be worth keeping? Also, do these "clones" have reliability issues at all? Sorry bout all the questions, I obviously don't know crap about AK's.
5/31/2010 7:47:56 PM
Originally Posted By Blackbird97:
A clone? Interesting...So it looks like a Yugo, but isn't? Would something like this be worth keeping? Also, do these "clones" have reliability issues at all? Sorry bout all the questions, I obviously don't know crap about AK's.
A clone? Interesting...So it looks like a Yugo, but isn't? Would something like this be worth keeping? Also, do these "clones" have reliability issues at all? Sorry bout all the questions, I obviously don't know crap about AK's.
They call them clones because they aren't truly yugoslovian because they are assembled by Century Arms. I had a Century Yugo a while ago and it had have functioning issues and I eventually sold it. Not to say your one will have functioning issues though.
5/31/2010 8:15:16 PM
Originally Posted By Ermac:
They call them clones because they aren't truly yugoslovian because they are assembled by Century Arms. I had a Century Yugo a while ago and it had have functioning issues and I eventually sold it. Not to say your one will have functioning issues though.
Originally Posted By Blackbird97:
A clone? Interesting...So it looks like a Yugo, but isn't? Would something like this be worth keeping? Also, do these "clones" have reliability issues at all? Sorry bout all the questions, I obviously don't know crap about AK's.
A clone? Interesting...So it looks like a Yugo, but isn't? Would something like this be worth keeping? Also, do these "clones" have reliability issues at all? Sorry bout all the questions, I obviously don't know crap about AK's.
They call them clones because they aren't truly yugoslovian because they are assembled by Century Arms. I had a Century Yugo a while ago and it had have functioning issues and I eventually sold it. Not to say your one will have functioning issues though.
Actually starting to have functioning issues with it now
Shells not ejecting, bolt not properly seating forward. Out of 20 rounds in a magazine, I usually have to stop at LEAST once to clear some type of malfunction. Not sure what the hell it is, but it's annoying as hell.5/31/2010 9:30:39 PM
What Ermac said. Unless it's directly from the factory, the rest of the rifles will almost always be "clones." Kind of a loose, general term to use but I think it helps to distinguish from the real-deals. If it was built utilizing an original kit but on a US-made receiver (even though it looks like the real military type), one could call it a "clone."
While the bolt could be also be a problem, an additional minor problem could be a bad magazine. Have you tried other magazines?
While the bolt could be also be a problem, an additional minor problem could be a bad magazine. Have you tried other magazines?
6/1/2010 1:07:25 AM
Originally Posted By Rayman1:
What Ermac said. Unless it's directly from the factory, the rest of the rifles will almost always be "clones." Kind of a loose, general term to use but I think it helps to distinguish from the real-deals. If it was built utilizing an original kit but on a US-made receiver (even though it looks like the real military type), one could call it a "clone."
While the bolt could be also be a problem, an additional minor problem could be a bad magazine. Have you tried other magazines?
What Ermac said. Unless it's directly from the factory, the rest of the rifles will almost always be "clones." Kind of a loose, general term to use but I think it helps to distinguish from the real-deals. If it was built utilizing an original kit but on a US-made receiver (even though it looks like the real military type), one could call it a "clone."
While the bolt could be also be a problem, an additional minor problem could be a bad magazine. Have you tried other magazines?
The gun store I purchased it from offered a lifetime warranty, and luckily I bought it. I'm going to try to bring it in this week to see if they can find anything wrong with it. As for the magazines, I have 4 Yugo mags, I've alternated all four, and the gun still malfunctions. I have also tried 5 different types of ammo. The Wolf Black Box, Wolf Military Classic, Brown Bear, Golden Bear, Golden Tiger and some white box ammo, all with similar malfunctions. Like I had said, I am at a loss right now, I am hoping this "warranty" helps me out.
