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DCMoney  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 9:52:01 AM
I'm at the point in my life where I am ready to start shooting competitively, I know I want to shoot a G34 but what I need to know is if I should just buy a new G34 (or used) and add the parts I want later or just build from the ground up the gun I want now.

If i bought a new G34 a few parts I would up grade right away would be the sights and get a threaded barrel for suppressor use (not for use while competing).

What other OEM Glock parts do people replace when building a competition gun.

Does Lone Wolf make good parts to build a Glock with (slide, barrels, internal parts)?

Also local Gun Shop has a G34 Gen 3 for $585, is this a good price?
all4freedom  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 10:14:17 AM
$585 for a new Gen 3 34 is a good price. The cheaper places online tend to be $600.

What kind of competition are we talking or do you know yet? Personally, if you want to shoot a 34, I would start stock, swap out the sights and then see what you feel like you NEED. I'm currently dicking with a spare G19 and in the back of my mind I'm thinking that I might be killing reliability, which will piss me off. Not sure what part of MO you are from, but you need to let me know where $585 G34s are.
DCMoney  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 10:31:25 AM
Originally Posted By all4freedom:
$585 for a new Gen 3 34 is a good price. The cheaper places online tend to be $600.

What kind of competition are we talking or do you know yet? Personally, if you want to shoot a 34, I would start stock, swap out the sights and then see what you feel like you NEED. I'm currently dicking with a spare G19 and in the back of my mind I'm thinking that I might be killing reliability, which will piss me off. Not sure what part of MO you are from, but you need to let me know where $585 G34s are.


IPSC and steel shoots, and if 3 gun ever gets started in the St. Louis area that's where I'll end up.
Mach  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 11:20:51 AM
If you are going to shoot IPSC you will be at a real disadvantage shooting minor with a 9 mm.

I use a Glock 24. At the very least go with a Glock 35 and shoot .40 to score major.

Unless you are going to put an optic on it, the glock sites are not bad.

A flared magwell might work well, but the best upgrade would be IPSC legal mag extensions.

I have a few and get 20 rounds of .40 in the mags. Makes a big difference.
Wash-Ar15  [Member]
5/24/2012 11:22:29 AM
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Originally Posted By all4freedom:
$585 for a new Gen 3 34 is a good price. The cheaper places online tend to be $600.

What kind of competition are we talking or do you know yet? Personally, if you want to shoot a 34, I would start stock, swap out the sights and then see what you feel like you NEED. I'm currently dicking with a spare G19 and in the back of my mind I'm thinking that I might be killing reliability, which will piss me off. Not sure what part of MO you are from, but you need to let me know where $585 G34s are.


IPSC and steel shoots, and if 3 gun ever gets started in the St. Louis area that's where I'll end up.


it depends on the division you want to shoot and your budget. A stock G34 is great for Production and Limited 10. Add a magwell and some long mags and you are in limited even though being 9mm, you will be shooting minor. If you have the budget, you can get an open Glock. the skies the limit on something on that.

if you reload, I would get a G35 instead. get a conversion barrel to run 9mm. You will also be able to shoot it Major.

DCMoney  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 11:40:18 AM
I don't know anything about the different divisions, and after a quick look through the rules I'm turned off to the idea of shooting IPSC. So right now I just plan on shooting Steel Matches at the local club. They also offer IDPA matches but I need to look through the rules.

I don't own anything in .40 S&W and never plan on buying anything in that caliber.
all4freedom  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 11:46:36 AM
Try some IDPA, I think you'll like it. I just started, only shot 2 local matches. It's a blast. There are lots of seasoned guys that will help you with everything so don't be intimidated at all. My biggest regret is not getting in to it sooner.

Just check at the local clubs, you don't have to go out to win IPSC or steel shoots, just go have fun. Guys start talking major and minor power factor and Limited 10 and your head will explode if you don't even know for sure what sport you like yet.

I like to win as much as the next guy, but I shoot IDPA with my carry gear for the most part and have just started to toy with a spare Glock for gaming a little. Just go have some fun. The G34 is a great gun to start with and again, modify as you need or want to.
DCMoney  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 12:34:31 PM
Originally Posted By all4freedom:
Try some IDPA, I think you'll like it. I just started, only shot 2 local matches. It's a blast. There are lots of seasoned guys that will help you with everything so don't be intimidated at all. My biggest regret is not getting in to it sooner.

Just check at the local clubs, you don't have to go out to win IPSC or steel shoots, just go have fun. Guys start talking major and minor power factor and Limited 10 and your head will explode if you don't even know for sure what sport you like yet.

I like to win as much as the next guy, but I shoot IDPA with my carry gear for the most part and have just started to toy with a spare Glock for gaming a little. Just go have some fun. The G34 is a great gun to start with and again, modify as you need or want to.


Thanks, I plan on using my EDC (G19 and IWB holster) next weekend at a Steel shoot. After reading through the IDPA rules I will give it a try over IPSC for now.
Mach  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 1:42:52 PM
IDPA is good practice and fun.

IPSC is a blast. Give it a try before you decide to not like it, Go shoot limited 10 and have fun.
DCMoney  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 2:25:37 PM
Originally Posted By Mach:
IDPA is good practice and fun.

IPSC is a blast. Give it a try before you decide to not like it, Go shoot limited 10 and have fun.


Ill try it if I can understand all the divisions and rules.

Your first post says I'll be at a disadvantage using a 9mm why is that?
all4freedom  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 2:36:48 PM
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Originally Posted By Mach:
IDPA is good practice and fun.

IPSC is a blast. Give it a try before you decide to not like it, Go shoot limited 10 and have fun.


Ill try it if I can understand all the divisions and rules.

Your first post says I'll be at a disadvantage using a 9mm why is that?


It's "power factor" basically bullet weight x velocity. Shooting a .40 (heavier bullet) gives you a higher power factor than a 9mm. Scoring is higher for guys shooting "major" power factor than "minor" power factor. So if one guy shooting and 9 and one guy shooting a .40 have the exact same time and exact same hits, the guy shooting major power factor (.40) wins. If you really get in to IPSC, buying another gun later will be the cheap part, I wouldn't change my mind on what I wanted to meet a game you don't even know if you like.

Here toy go. Power facturz...
Jimi  [Member]
5/24/2012 2:43:52 PM
Go with the 34! I have a gen3 34and she is sweet!I changed to the ghost rocket 3.5 connecter and the wolf 6lb striker spring and wolf trigger spring also.The trigger is smooth and no overtravel anymore.I also thought about the 35 but I wanted to feel the recoil of a polymer pistol first.The 34 is my first polymer handgun.I love it! I have Sig, S&W and CZ.CZ is my favorite!The 34 shoots just as accurate as my 9mm CZ .Which is th most accurate pistol I have shot!!As I get use to the g34 I will shoot it as accurate as the CZ.Get the g34 it is a very accurate pistol to start out with.
DCMoney  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 3:15:11 PM
Originally Posted By all4freedom:
Originally Posted By DCMoney:
Originally Posted By Mach:
IDPA is good practice and fun.

IPSC is a blast. Give it a try before you decide to not like it, Go shoot limited 10 and have fun.


Ill try it if I can understand all the divisions and rules.

Your first post says I'll be at a disadvantage using a 9mm why is that?


It's "power factor" basically bullet weight x velocity. Shooting a .40 (heavier bullet) gives you a higher power factor than a 9mm. Scoring is higher for guys shooting "major" power factor than "minor" power factor. So if one guy shooting and 9 and one guy shooting a .40 have the exact same time and exact same hits, the guy shooting major power factor (.40) wins. If you really get in to IPSC, buying another gun later will be the cheap part, I wouldn't change my mind on what I wanted to meet a game you don't even know if you like.

Here toy go. Power facturz...


Thanks.

Originally Posted By Jimi:
Go with the 34! I have a gen3 34and she is sweet!I changed to the ghost rocket 3.5 connecter and the wolf 6lb striker spring and wolf trigger spring also.The trigger is smooth and no overtravel anymore.I also thought about the 35 but I wanted to feel the recoil of a polymer pistol first.The 34 is my first polymer handgun.I love it! I have Sig, S&W and CZ.CZ is my favorite!The 34 shoots just as accurate as my 9mm CZ .Which is th most accurate pistol I have shot!!As I get use to the g34 I will shoot it as accurate as the CZ.Get the g34 it is a very accurate pistol to start out with.


Thanks, I've wanted a G34 for many years and now I finally have the time and money to start getting serious about competition shooting. Plus I've gotten so bored shooting by myself or with others that cant shoot worth a damn.
lasnyder  [Member]
5/24/2012 3:21:20 PM
I've been shooting USPSA since 1982, and wish I had started with my current gen 3 G34 at the beginning....mine is set up for 3 gun and shoot the same rig for USPSA....Heinie fixed rear, but needed a Dawson .280" tall front to get point of aim/impact... I'm old so like a .090" wide blade...I like stainless guide rod and ISMI springs....I have small hands so added a JP mag release... butt plug and not a mag well...5 good magazines... grip tape panels and a little in the thumb recesses... good kydex holster and a couple of double mag pouches and you are in business

USPSA has attempted to modify classes to meet the "law of the land" in regard to the magazine capacity issue...to maintain as level a playing field as possible, at least equipment wise....the emergence of the Production class (probably second largest behind Limited) in my area is a perfect spot for striker fired 9mm pistols, using 10 round magazines... you can shoot high cap mags in Limited

in the early years the Jeff Cooper motto DVC, speed/accuracy/power was before the current generation of personal defensive projectiles...the sport still holds to the tenet, with the scoring advantage going to shooting a "more powerful" handgun cartridge (major/minor)....the target scoring zones themselves reward more accurate marksmanship (A,B,C and D zones), with an increase in point value for more shots landing in a more "lethal" part of the target....there is no perfect score, as the target points awarded (shot placement x major/minor value of the bullet) is divided by the time that it took you ....once you watch a match, it is not that difficult of a concept

in the 30 or so years I've been playing, I've met a lot of good people, and picked up some skill along the way... If you don't compete, how do you know how good you really are?

if you plan on shooting any of the gun games with a 9mm, look at 147grain bullets as they have a pretty good advantage over 115s for accuracy

les
L747
Mach  [Team Member]
5/24/2012 6:12:32 PM
Looks like someone explained it already