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 how is Speer gold dot .380?
evnash  [Member]
10/28/2011 11:03:03 AM
im currently running CD in my Sig P238 but considering swapping to Gold dots. they good to go?
ske714  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 12:14:19 PM
I have no experience with Gold Dots in .380, but I consider them top of the line, and carry them in all of my handguns. However, as for .380, a deep hole is more important than a big hole, so if I carried one, it would be loaded with FMJ. That''s just my opinion, but maybe it will get the ball rolling here for you.
Gimpy_AK  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 12:43:21 PM


I'd be happy with its performance.
Blue_Genes  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 12:46:57 PM
Ball rolling...I get it.

I'm also curious how Gold Dots perform as I am also running CD in my 238. My Sig has eaten all sorts of cheap FMJ, though defensive ammo seems to cycle a little smoother.

ETA: Nice video!
NAM  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 12:47:59 PM
I have some, but never ran any tests. For all intents and purposes, if you have to use .380, ball is usually recommended.
Powderfinger  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 1:04:30 PM
Interesting... I would like to see this tested. Along with the denim, add some leather up front and add some beef rib bones into the media.
Zhukov  [Moderator]
10/28/2011 1:13:12 PM

Originally Posted By Gimpy_AK:
http://youtu.be/HTTuXpFChsA

I'd be happy with its performance.

Not ballistic gelatin, so who knows.

Actually, brassfetcher has a report about bone simulants and .380s, but it also includes data for bare gelatin shots. Looks like they all penetrate about 9-10" in bare gelatin: http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP%20JHP%20Bone%20Simulant%20and%20Ballistic%20Gelatin%20Test%20Report.pdf
Zhukov  [Moderator]
10/28/2011 1:14:07 PM

Originally Posted By Powderfinger:
Interesting... I would like to see this tested. Along with the denim, add some leather up front and add some beef rib bones into the media.

No point. It'll penetrate as well as a regular cheap FMJ, which is so say over 20".
Gimpy_AK  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 2:05:49 PM
Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Originally Posted By Gimpy_AK:
http://youtu.be/HTTuXpFChsA

I'd be happy with its performance.

Not ballistic gelatin, so who knows.

Actually, brassfetcher has a report about bone simulants and .380s, but it also includes data for bare gelatin shots. Looks like they all penetrate about 9-10" in bare gelatin: http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP%20JHP%20Bone%20Simulant%20and%20Ballistic%20Gelatin%20Test%20Report.pdf


Awesome link. thanks.
NVGdude  [Team Member]
10/28/2011 10:10:29 PM
I normally carry Gold Dots in my P3AT and Mustang. No feeding issues and I find them to be very accurate, especially compared to ball ammo.

.380 HP designs won't meet the FBI penetration criteria, but Gold Dots will generally penetrate 9-11". For an "in your face" pocket gun I can accept that compromise.
Tomac  [Team Member]
10/29/2011 9:25:56 AM
CorBon DPX is the only JHP I'd consider for a .380.
Tomac
Bones45  [Team Member]
10/29/2011 10:59:58 AM
380 is the caliber where penetration vs expansion becomes a real trade-off. I know of a bunch of people who swear by corbon dpx in that caliber. They know full well that you don't get the full 12" penetration (averages about 10" IIRC) but you get that wicked expansion for which the dpx bullet is noted.

Here's a question for the hive - is that a reasonable trade-off?
Thorgrim  [Team Member]
10/29/2011 1:07:21 PM
I'd be going for penetration over expansion and in a pistol that is not such a mousegun that I'm limited in controlability and shot placement. This is pretty much why I've gone up to a 9mm, because when you get out of true pocket guns, you may as well go to sub compact 9s with the minimal size difference in the type of guns I prefer.

This goes along with my general philosophy that the best round/gun combo is the one you can perform with the best whether that be a 10mm or .22lr.
mcnielsen  [Team Member]
11/7/2011 3:48:46 PM
Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Originally Posted By Gimpy_AK:
http://youtu.be/HTTuXpFChsA

I'd be happy with its performance.

Not ballistic gelatin, so who knows.

Actually, brassfetcher has a report about bone simulants and .380s, but it also includes data for bare gelatin shots. Looks like they all penetrate about 9-10" in bare gelatin: http://www.brassfetcher.com/380ACP%20JHP%20Bone%20Simulant%20and%20Ballistic%20Gelatin%20Test%20Report.pdf


Here endeth the lesson

It seems as though you can't get much more than 10" penetration depth with .380 caliber.