MTAC Problem ***UPDATE PAGE 2***
I'm posting this for a buddy of mine who ordered a MTAC Minotaur based on my recommendation. He is having some issues with it and I wanted to see if anyone had a solution.
He got the holster a couple weeks ago and called me to say it was too tight. He cannot draw or re-holster without an extreme amount of force. I got him to loosen the bushing's and there was no change. I thought his belt was too tight but he said he tried just holding it in his hands and it's the same issue.
He brought the gun and holster for me to look at and sure enough it was way too tight. The bushings and screws literally spin freely and it almost takes 2 hands to get it out of the holster. I showed him how tight my bushings were and can draw and re-holster one handed. My thought was that the nub that locks on to the trigger guard was too tall and needed to be sanded down.
He decided to contact Comp-Tac and they issued an RMA.
Today he got it back and it's the exact same but worse. The bushing's spin freely and the screws are getting ready to come out. When you holster the gun it actually moves the slide back enough to eject a round.
Anybody got any ideas on what the issue is? He's pretty fed up with the holster and I feel bad for recommending them.
sumpin ain't right...
Id say it'll get better with wear as the leather breaks in, but that doesn't seem to be whats going on here.
If Allen key adjustments are fixing it, it needs to go back again.
Sorry to hear this, as my MTAC has been awesome from day one.
ETA: are we certain he has the right kydex body for his model firearm? not that a compact vs fullsize would cause this either, but say a single stack vs. double stack... maybe?
So, it went back to Comp-tac and came back the same/worse? No offense meant at all here, but are you sure that the holster is for the right model handgun that he's trying to put in it? (Like, he's not trying to put a Glock 21 in a holster for a Glock 17, for example.)
If the models match up, I'd get Comp-tac to issue a refund.
Originally Posted By StayFrosty:
ETA: are we certain he has the right kydex body for his model firearm? not that a compact vs fullsize would cause this either, but say a single stack vs. double stack... maybe?
Ha ha, we're thinking the same thing.
The holster body to me looks like a Sig. I'll see if he can send me some pics.
Edit: Sorry. The holster is supposed to be for a M&P.
What kind of pistol is he trying to put in?
Here's the holster. It was supposed to be for a full size M&P 9mm.
Ok, holster is for full-size M&P. Is your buddy's gun an M&P or a SIG?
Originally Posted By Hero:
Ok, holster is for full-size M&P. Is your buddy's gun an M&P or a SIG?
M&P
This is how the bushing's are. Sorry for the crappy pic. He said he can send me better ones later tonight.
Originally Posted By g9x19:
Originally Posted By Hero:
Ok, holster is for full-size M&P. Is your buddy's gun an M&P or a SIG?
M&P
10-4, so the holster and gun should be a match, but they're obviously not matching. Your buddy has an M&P9 or M&P40, not an M&P45, right? I think it still needs to go back to Comp-tac for a refund. They had their chance to figure it out. Assuming they actually looked at the holster when it came back in, apparently the blue gun they use for sizing is out of spec compared to the real deals.
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By g9x19:
Originally Posted By Hero:
Ok, holster is for full-size M&P. Is your buddy's gun an M&P or a SIG?
M&P
10-4, so the holster and gun should be a match, but they're obviously not matching. Your buddy has an M&P9 or M&P40, not an M&P45, right? I think it still needs to go back to Comp-tac for a refund. They had their chance to figure it out. Assuming they actually looked at the holster when it came back in, apparently the blue gun they use for sizing is out of spec compared to the real deals.
He has a full size M&P 9. I was worried he was going to need to just return it. I feel like an ass because he always used full Kydex holsters and I talked him into the MTAC.
Originally Posted By g9x19:
Originally Posted By Hero:
Originally Posted By g9x19:
Originally Posted By Hero:
Ok, holster is for full-size M&P. Is your buddy's gun an M&P or a SIG?
M&P
10-4, so the holster and gun should be a match, but they're obviously not matching. Your buddy has an M&P9 or M&P40, not an M&P45, right? I think it still needs to go back to Comp-tac for a refund. They had their chance to figure it out. Assuming they actually looked at the holster when it came back in, apparently the blue gun they use for sizing is out of spec compared to the real deals.
He has a full size M&P 9. I was worried he was going to need to just return it. I feel like an ass because he always used full Kydex holsters and I talked him into the MTAC.
MTACs do need a little breaking in, in my experience, but it shouldn't be so tight that holstering it is racking the slide. Is he sure that it is really that tight? Maybe he needs to wear it around the house with the weapon in the holster for a while and see if it breaks in a bit.
It's tight. I've owned 4 different Minotaur's over the the past 6 or so years and I've never seen one like this. I haven't handled his it since it came back from Comp-tac but I'm trying to get him to bring it by before he decides to send it back or not. If it is even close to how tight the fit was before I can't blame him for returning it.
The gun is locked in by friction and that divot in the trigger guard area. That divot may be a little too deep and locking it in too well.
If that kydex is that loose and you can tell that the divot is what the problem is, I would consider removing some material from the inside so that it doesn't hold the trigger guard so tight.
The divot in your picture is massive compared to mine. Mine is just a little bump
Can't help, but in for suggestions. I've got a new Minotaur with the same problem. Mine is supposed to fit a Sig P220 with a rail. With the tension screws all but out, you can't draw the gun from the holster. I also bought the Kydex body for a 1911 slide. I changed the bodies out and the 1911 fits perfectly. I'm sitting here with the holster on my lap getting ready to swap bodies again and see if I missed something. If the results are the same, guess I'll call CompTac.
My mtac never needed any breaking in. It doesn't really have much retention at all. The belt keeps it locked in. I'd return it for a refund and try crossbreed supertuck.
I had the same exact problem with an MTAC for a SIG P239 9mm. I ended up not using the holster or carrying the P239 so I never bothered to contact them about it.
Originally Posted By pops2element:
My mtac never needed any breaking in. It doesn't really have much retention at all. The belt keeps it locked in. I'd return it for a refund and try crossbreed supertuck.
Yeah, this has been my experience with them too.
I would be willing to bet that is not the right kydex body for an M&P9. I am looking at mine right meow, and the lines just don't match up, mine are much softer also.
Originally Posted By StayFrosty:
I would be willing to bet that is not the right kydex body for an M&P9. I am looking at mine right meow, and the lines just don't match up, mine are much softer also.
Can you post a pic?
Originally Posted By StayFrosty:
I would be willing to bet that is not the right kydex body for an M&P9. I am looking at mine right meow, and the lines just don't match up, mine are much softer also.
Yeah, that's why I'm really thinking the body is wrong.
Yeah ill try, hold please...
ps. I'm pretty bad at posting pics though.. haha
MTAC w/ M&P
This was a compact kydex body, that I heated with a heat gun, and inserted my fullsize to open the slightly closed end thus creating in a sense a slide version for the 9/40/357. As someone stated above, I think the one you posted looks like s SIG.
eta - The slide release/lock is not the same, so I really think your buddy has the wrong model kydex
Hi there, here is a random pic of my M&P 9c on the bottom right of pic. Looks like the lines on the kydex are different from mine.

That does not appear to be an M&P Kydex holster body.
****Update*****
I got to look at the holster this morning. The holster fits his M&P but something just isn't right. All of mine have a distinctive click when holstered. I guess it's when the little nub snaps over the trigger guard. His just kind of slides in. It feels like it's a cheap universal holster made to fit multiple firearms. It's not as tight as it was before but he has been wearing it for a few days. I put my Glock 19 in the holster and it fits the exact same as his his M&P. I'm convinced it's the wrong kydex body.
I did not know that he had to pay for shipping back to Comp-Tac and apparently they what him to pay it again for a return trip. He is still up in the air of what he's going to do.
Apparantly, they did not deliver what was paid for; If it were me, it would be time to demand a refund inclusive of all shipping costs.
I've never had a problem with my Glocks and MTACs, but I did have fitment issues with a 1911. It was extremely tight or too loose. I determined that the bump of kydex where the trigger guard snaps into was too large. The 1911's trigger guard was shaving off pieces of kydex every time it was drawn. A little bit of sanding and it was GTG.