Is the PPS really sorted out now?

I was posting on another forum about wanting a PPS as my next firearm, and another poster alluded to posts on several Walther specific forums that the PPS was still having troubles like it had at launch with FTEs and FTFs.

I thought this was cleared up by now. I know the owner of my local gun store carries one and has nothing but good things to say about it, as do several regular posters here.

Is this just another case of internet forums amplifying problems way above what are actually being experienced?

Probably - my PPS is flawless.

They are pricey, so I think there are some haters out there who cling to their G19s.

Much hate there is in the Glock camp, yes...

My first pistol purchase was a G19, my wife claimed it as her own and it sits in her quick access safe as her home defense gun. It's a very nice pistol, and I have no regret buying it. I could use that G19 if I wanted - or buy another.

But one day I spent at least an hour at the Bass Pro's gun counter, where they treat me well since I've spent some money there several times. That day I compared a number of carry type guns in detail.

I kept coming back to the PPS as the best solution, and although it was the highest price - I bought it. I've had good luck with Walthers and S&W/Walther guns in the past. It's ugly and has a strange mag release - but it's reliable and very comfortable. There are many others who've joined the PPS club - and the vast majority are pleased.

The G19 is a very good carry gun - but I believe the PPS is superior in comfort and possibly in design and manufacturing too. If the PPS priced matched the G19 it would gain a lot more followers.

In my opinion, you buy a PPS because you're an educated purchaser. Not because it's the most popular, not because it's the best price - but because you did your homework and appreciate the quality - and how it's designed to give you a solid gun in a slim, comfortable profile.

If you have the luxury of carrying a larger gun, both in size and caliber go ahead and do it - but if you can afford the biggest little quality gun for "constant" carry - try a PPS.

I have handled them, but never fired one, and it is exactly the "quality feel" of them that keeps me coming back to it. And the PPS has sights that are actually usable, something a lot of smaller guns fail at.

I still have one Glock, a 36, that has been 100% for me, but even that I feel is too big for my CCW comfort level. And, I have owned two other Glocks in the past and never had issues with them mechanically. I just don't care for them anymore.

I have tried the Kahr PM9 and honestly did not care for it one bit.

Kel Tek and the Ruger clone thereof are not even on the table, they are just a notch above Taurus IMHO.

I don't mind paying for quality. I try to practice what I preach in my job.

We'll see how things shake out here in the next month or two, then I will probably put in an order for one.

I own a PPS in 9mm and it is 100% after approx 600 rounds.

I love it. I have considered selling my Kahr P9 and buying a second PPS.

Accurate as hell. Mags are pricey. I have 1 six rounder, 4 seven rounders, and 2 eight rounders.

I use a FIST IWB for 1 o'clock and a C-Tac OWB and mag pouch for wearing a suit or hide under a t-shirt.

9mm 147gr +P Federal HST is a great performer, reliable, and accurate out of the PPS

I think the early .40 S&W (useless caliber, IMO) PPS's had some problems when the pistols were introduced.

My 9mm PPS has been flawless for 1700 rds. of fmj and jhp ammo. Zero failures.

Walther hit a homerun with this pistol.

PUt me as a "+1 can't say enough good things about my 9mm PPS"

At least 700 rounds with no failures (mostly FMJ with 150 or so hollowpoint). Very accurate, small, light, etc. Can't imagine a better small carry gun.
Abosultely 100% recommend it. I'd certainly buy another if anything happened to mine.

Over 1200 rounds in my .40 PPS, never had an issue. More accurate than my .40 XD. Had it for almost 2 years now. The only thing I have to do is remember to wear a glove on my right hand when I am going to be putting hundreds of rounds downrange, or my ring finger gets blood blisters from the gap between the grip and magazine.

Several hundred rounds thru my 9mm PPS 100% reliability.
Only complaint is the price of mags and that it only came with one when I bought it new.

I've had mine about a 1-1/2 years with no issues after well over 1000 rounds.

My 9mm PPS broke within the first 200 rounds.

Back to S&W. Fixed and back to me.

A box or so of FMJ since then and it has sat in the safe ever since.

I am planning on running it this summer and getting confident in it.

Seeing your intended carry piece locked up and reduced to a paperweight is a pretty vivid image that is hard to forget. Likely why when someone complains theirs broke , they complain loudly.

After 1000 rds or so, I'll let you know how I feel then.

I have a 40 thats been a great gun.

I have two. Carry one every day. Never had any problems with any ammo. Shoot winchester white box for practice, and federal HST 124gr for carry. Now I haven't checked the other boards as of late as I just honestly lost interest as my guns have always worked flawlessly, but I recall people saying that they had slide lock by firing the heavier grn ammo. I would say that the 147 could have been the problem. The gun would lock back and basically it was inoperable. I have never shot the heavier ammo so I can't comment. I haven't check on it for a couple of years, and that thinking may be totally off base now that the PPS has more guns in owners hands now.

I would say that you should not have any problems. Like all carry guns, you should fire several hundred rounds of practice ammo (not to break in the gun, but acclimate you the shooter to the gun) and at a minimum fire 100 rounds of your carry ammo of choice. I know that can get expensive in firing those carry rounds, but your life is worth more than 2-4 boxes of hollow points in uncovering potential feed issues.

I didn't want to post anything here until my test is complete, but my PPS has been the little engine that could.

My 9mm PPS was bought new in Dec 2010.

It got a 500 round break in with +P hollow points (no stoppages) and was cleaned and carried for several months. Then I got bored and decided to see what it could do. I have shot 2,700 rounds of cheap FMJ with no cleaning and no lubrication and no stoppages what-so-ever. This pistol is a champ! I will post details when I am done. However, that won't happen until it breaks and I get bored while it's being fixed.

Summary: My personal PPS has 3,200 rounds through it with zero stoppages. It has only been cleaned once, at the 500 round mark (after shooting 500 of my +P hollow points)

That sir is a great endorsement.

I wish Smith and Wesson wouldn't cover their guns with stupid warnings, it looks ridiculous.

"Slide lock"

How do you return the pistol to battery?

this again? Sorry but a G19 while being smaller and more easily carried than the fullsize G17 is still a 16 round gun capable of being used as a duty weapon. I would not for the life of me consider my PPS as my primary duty weapon just because of magazine capacity alone. Its a fine fun gun to own shoot and carry concealed but it doesn't do anything substantially better than the G19 other than allow for a more comfortable ccw during hot summer months. The price difference is nearly neglible and certainly doesn't even factor into my decision when I bought it. If it was twice the price, then maybe, but as it stands now its a great ccw piece shooting a full size pistol cartridge.

Hey guy - this is my G19, it sits in the safe. I carry the PPS.

mine sits in a serpa duty holster. the pps sits in my front vest pounch. whats your point?

I have two and I love the PPS.

I've recently heard of an issue though.

Anyone else hear about the backstraps becoming faulty, wearing out, or coming off during firing ?

Obviously this would render the gun useless so it is concerning.

Any solid info would be a help. I'm wondering if its not internet crap spouted by the same people that say all Glocks blow up and .45 will shoot through a train wheel.

The tab on my backstrap broke. They sent me a new one. It never failed while using it, but must have damaged/bent the plastic ridge that holds it on so I couldn't get it to go back on after stripping it to clean. Happened on probably my 5th time cleaning it. I had totally forgotten about that and in other threads I've gushed about how 100% reliable my PPS is

The backstrap does not have to come off to strip the pps.

I have the early AB serial number model. It has been great. The only issue I had was the tab on the large backstrap was not sharp and would lock in like it was suppose to. I call S&W customer service and they had a new one to me in a few days.

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