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 How useful is a DE .50?
fuzzy03cls  [Member]
3/22/2010 2:32:16 PM
I found a good deal on a slightly used 1 locally. Well under market. Besides a range gun how useful is the gun? Carrying it I would guess would be a bit hard.
If I bought it I'd like to be able to use it for more then the range. I do not hunt or anything.
Is it reliable? Can I shoot 1K rounds through it in a few months & nothing will break? Assuming I can afford & find ammo.
I do not know much about the DE. If someone could point to a FAQ website or something so I can learn about stripping, cleaning & parts that would be great.

Thanks

maxpower220  [Member]
3/22/2010 6:28:36 PM
I would point you to the Magnum Research webpage. There are several articles and videos that will aid you in some of your questions. I just purchased my .50, so I don't have too much input. I think my DE will only be a range gun as I don't hunt and I have a few other more "appropriate" guns for carry. Also, the DE doesn't lend itself to 'double tap' anything smaller than an elephant.

Many people have put hundreds of rounds through the DE with no issues. Proper form in shooting the .50 is key. Good luck.
PurdueRifleman  [Team Member]
3/22/2010 6:51:59 PM
Is it reliable?

Desert Eagles (regardless of chambering) are reliable as long as they are clean and the shooter knows how to handle the recoil properly. The recoil is more of a factor with the .50AE. If you limp-wrist it, it will put a brass in your forehead and the handgun will probably jam.

Can I shoot 1K rounds through it in a few months & nothing will break?

I've put close to 2K rounds through my 50AE in about a year and a half with absolutely no parts breaking. I also clean it religiously, though.

Assuming I can afford & find ammo

Handloading is your friend here as 50AE can go upwards of $2 per shot from the factory. I can reload 50AE practice rounds for about 40 cents per shot. The cases can go through a lot of firings.

But as for usefulness overall, I give the nod to .44 mag. The recoil is softer and ammo is available everywhere. Also, IIRC just about every animal in the world has been taken with a .44 handgun. 50AE will generally out perform 44mag in terms of energy and velocity when using bullets of the same weight, but I can think of few applications where this is an advantage (maybe hunting dangerous game). However, I wouldn't use either the 50 or the 44 to defend myself unless I had to just because of the weight and the recoil.

For me, the Desert Eagle is a fine tool for hunting whitetails and silhouette shooting but that's about where I stop.
SOC  [Team Member]
3/22/2010 7:15:54 PM
Same caliber, superior platform.



Ether way you need size large glove hands.
cantgrowup  [Member]
3/23/2010 2:03:55 PM
Ah... once again the Grizzly makes yet another appearance. I'm gonna have to look up the lowdown on that gun. It keeps popping up in this forum for some reason.


To answer the orignal poster, the DE .50AE is a great novelty gun. It draws attention at the range. You could easily hunt with it (but you don't hunt.) It's expensive. It's ammo is expensive. (You really need to reload for virtually everything you shoot, but especially for guns like this.) There's no real justification for owning the DE's other than you just want one. So... it's up to you. (But it is fun).

And if you do get a .50 AE, for another measely $500 or so, you can get the .44 Mag barrel and mag, and then you'd have basically two guns for the price of ..... five or six regular handguns
fuzzy03cls  [Member]
3/23/2010 3:16:53 PM
Cool, turns out the seller sold it. It was cheap. He was moving to a gun ban state. I'll post the price since it's sold. It was fairly new all black with 50 rounds through it & another 50 that came with it & 2 mags for $700. That was a steal! Only reason I was thinking of getting it. I thought too long :(
RDTCU  [Team Member]
3/23/2010 3:24:21 PM

Originally Posted By PurdueRifleman:
If you limp-wrist it, it will put a brass DENT in your forehead and the handgun will probably jam.

Better...
Miami_JBT  [Team Member]
3/23/2010 5:10:14 PM
I've always been interested in a DE in .357 Magnum and in .44 Magnum. The .50AE has never caught my interest. But the .357 Magnum DE is on my list of guns to get.
DLaw  [Team Member]
3/23/2010 5:19:39 PM
I see it's sold, but if you want one get one...I've got a .44 and I like it...
Quake_Guy  [Member]
3/24/2010 8:39:40 PM
at that price I would assume it was stolen, after ammo and mag addons, gun was under $600.

jburton  [Member]
3/25/2010 9:42:22 PM
I have a 50 in hard chrome. I love it. I shoot it often, it is very manageable. I have loaded some sweet hand-loads for it.
1st-Armored-Division  [Team Member]
6/20/2010 9:07:28 PM
Originally Posted By cantgrowup:


And if you do get a .50 AE, for another measely $500 or so, you can get the .44 Mag barrel and mag, and then you'd have basically two guns for the price of ..... five or six regular handguns


I have had my Black Oxide .50 Desert Eagle since 1995 and I just got a brand new DE .44 magnum and the 50 is more blast and more powerful in my opinion. I was lucky getting the new .44 Desert Eagle at about half cost so I snatched it right up. I also would like to add that my older .50 big brother still looks almost brand new, because I do keep it maintained, even though it has been a safe queen for a few years now. The .50 is one handcannon that can do extensive damage to almost anything it hits. The Isralies have used it from time to time to take out suicide car bombers and other vehicles that would try and run some of their checkpoints / roadblocks, as a matter of fact, I do believe that was one of the reasons for developement for the DE 50, or 50 Action Express round.

GarrettJ  [Team Member]
6/20/2010 11:19:50 PM
Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls:
He was moving to a gun ban state.

So? Maybe the seller was uninformed, but what state bans the DE? The few states that have a copy of the now defunct federal ban wouldn't ban it. It only has one evil feature (weight). Maybe some place like Cali where they have goofy laws that I don't bother keeping up with.

As for price, you can find them fairly regularly in the $700-$900 range if you are patient. Check the EE. There are a few under $1000 there now.

I agree about getting a .44 instead of a .50. From a practical standpoint the .44 can do everything the .50 can, at less than 1/4 the ammo cost. I'm interested in the new muzzle brake Magnum Research recently came out with. It should help greatly with the limp-wristing issue that Perduerifleman noted. I cut down a 10" gun and threaded the barrel on my .44. With a silencer or muzzle brake, the recoil is greatly reduced and reliability increases dramatically.
GarrettJ  [Team Member]
6/20/2010 11:20:58 PM
Originally Posted By cantgrowup:
And if you do get a .50 AE, for another measely $500 or so...


Or look around a little more and you can get them new for $350.
AndyHk93M4  [Member]
6/23/2010 11:18:50 PM
i found this ....maybe this would help you make up your mind if your still thinking about getting one in the future...(that was a cheap price for a .50AE).:

"
.50AE
Length - 10.75 inches (273 mm)
Width - 6.25 inches (159 mm)
Height - 1.25 inches (32 mm)
Empty Weight - 2050 grams (72.4 oz.)
Clip Capacity - 7 rounds
Purpose of the Desert Eagle

The Desert Eagle was originally designed as a hunting and target shooting pistol, not as a military, law enforcement, or self-defense pistol. It is often portrayed through Hollywood and video games, however, as being some kind of super-weapon. The Desert Eagle is most definitely not the end-all-be-all of guns, but it does have its uses. To illustrate this, it is good to look at the pros and cons of the gun.

The Bad:

Weight - The weight of this gun usually ranges from 1.766 to 2.05 kilograms unloaded. That is extremely heavy for a handgun. Carrying this gun for long times can be unnecessarily cumbersome, and certainly wielding it for any long period of time is tiring.

Size - The Desert Eagle is a mammoth of a pistol. Huge. Its large size can often make it more of a burden than anything else.

Muzzle Flash - Even the muzzle flash of the Desert Eagle is famous, and rightfully so. The .50AE and .440 Cor-Bon practically launch a fireball which can be several feet long. The muzzle flash of these guns can temporarily blind you with ease.

Recoil - Extreme, to say the least. The recoil can practically throw the gun back over your shoulder if not handled properly. This intense recoil makes shooting accurately and quickly extrordinarily difficult.

The Good:

Weight - The weight of the gun is a bit of a double-edged sword. While the heaviness makes it difficult to carry, the large weight does help control the massive recoil.

Accuracy - As mentioned before, the Desert Eagle was designed primarily as a target shooting and hunting pistol. As such, it posseses exceptional accuracy in the right hands.

Stopping Power - The stopping power of this gun is incredible. Some people hunt bears with this gun. It takes a lot to stop a bear.

Intimidation - The look and size of this gun make it very intimidating indeed. In some situations, scaring your enemy enough to avoid firing any rounds is advantageous. The intimidation factor of the Desert Eagle is what has landed it in so many games and movies.

The Verdict:

The Desert Eagle is not a beginner's gun. It takes considerable practice and skill to be able to use this gun in any effective manner. Once mastered, however, its high power and amazing accuracy make it ideal for what it was designed for: sport target shooting, and the hunting of various large creatures (deer, bears, lions!, MOOSE! Who knows, if you're a good shot I bet you could take down an elephant. But that's not recommended.). Keep in mind that although it certainly looks cool, the Desert Eagle you see in movies and games is not the real Desert Eagle.

In summary, the Desert Eagle well deserves its status as a modern legend among pistols. It is certainly a masterpiece of engineering, and one of the more beautiful pistols ever produced."

I had a .357 mag DE but realized if I'm going to have a gun this big it might as well be shooting something just as big out of the barrel...and thats why I sold the .357mag de and got a .50AE

IMHO the 50AE is the way to go if your going to get one.......also , sad to say but criminals are killing each other with these guns so it's not like only hunters have them





4bangin  [Team Member]
6/23/2010 11:37:26 PM
Originally Posted By AndyHk93M4:
i found this ....maybe this would help you make up your mind if your still thinking about getting one in the future...(that was a cheap price for a .50AE).:

"
.50AE
Length - 10.75 inches (273 mm)
Width - 6.25 inches (159 mm)
Height - 1.25 inches (32 mm)
Empty Weight - 2050 grams (72.4 oz.)
Clip Capacity - 7 rounds
Purpose of the Desert Eagle

The Desert Eagle was originally designed as a hunting and target shooting pistol, not as a military, law enforcement, or self-defense pistol. It is often portrayed through Hollywood and video games, however, as being some kind of super-weapon. The Desert Eagle is most definitely not the end-all-be-all of guns, but it does have its uses. To illustrate this, it is good to look at the pros and cons of the gun.

The Bad:

Weight - The weight of this gun usually ranges from 1.766 to 2.05 kilograms unloaded. That is extremely heavy for a handgun. Carrying this gun for long times can be unnecessarily cumbersome, and certainly wielding it for any long period of time is tiring.

Size - The Desert Eagle is a mammoth of a pistol. Huge. Its large size can often make it more of a burden than anything else.

Muzzle Flash - Even the muzzle flash of the Desert Eagle is famous, and rightfully so. The .50AE and .440 Cor-Bon practically launch a fireball which can be several feet long. The muzzle flash of these guns can temporarily blind you with ease.

Recoil - Extreme, to say the least. The recoil can practically throw the gun back over your shoulder if not handled properly. This intense recoil makes shooting accurately and quickly extrordinarily difficult.

The Good:

Weight - The weight of the gun is a bit of a double-edged sword. While the heaviness makes it difficult to carry, the large weight does help control the massive recoil.

Accuracy - As mentioned before, the Desert Eagle was designed primarily as a target shooting and hunting pistol. As such, it posseses exceptional accuracy in the right hands.

Stopping Power - The stopping power of this gun is incredible. Some people hunt bears with this gun. It takes a lot to stop a bear.

Intimidation - The look and size of this gun make it very intimidating indeed. In some situations, scaring your enemy enough to avoid firing any rounds is advantageous. The intimidation factor of the Desert Eagle is what has landed it in so many games and movies.

The Verdict:

The Desert Eagle is not a beginner's gun. It takes considerable practice and skill to be able to use this gun in any effective manner. Once mastered, however, its high power and amazing accuracy make it ideal for what it was designed for: sport target shooting, and the hunting of various large creatures (deer, bears, lions!, MOOSE! Who knows, if you're a good shot I bet you could take down an elephant. But that's not recommended.). Keep in mind that although it certainly looks cool, the Desert Eagle you see in movies and games is not the real Desert Eagle.

In summary, the Desert Eagle well deserves its status as a modern legend among pistols. It is certainly a masterpiece of engineering, and one of the more beautiful pistols ever produced."

I had a .357 mag DE but realized if I'm going to have a gun this big it might as well be shooting something just as big out of the barrel...and thats why I sold the .357mag de and got a .50AE

IMHO the 50AE is the way to go if your going to get one







also goes looks good in a room full of hookers and blow. But seriously, I had one in 357. They are a hoot.
fuzzy03cls  [Member]
7/4/2010 11:28:35 PM
Originally Posted By GarrettJ:
Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls:
He was moving to a gun ban state.

So? Maybe the seller was uninformed, but what state bans the DE? The few states that have a copy of the now defunct federal ban wouldn't ban it. It only has one evil feature (weight). Maybe some place like Cali where they have goofy laws that I don't bother keeping up with.

As for price, you can find them fairly regularly in the $700-$900 range if you are patient. Check the EE. There are a few under $1000 there now.

I agree about getting a .44 instead of a .50. From a practical standpoint the .44 can do everything the .50 can, at less than 1/4 the ammo cost. I'm interested in the new muzzle brake Magnum Research recently came out with. It should help greatly with the limp-wristing issue that Perduerifleman noted. I cut down a 10" gun and threaded the barrel on my .44. With a silencer or muzzle brake, the recoil is greatly reduced and reliability increases dramatically.


3 letters....NYC
FortyFiveAutomatic  [Team Member]
7/4/2010 11:37:37 PM
I use it as a camping gun. .50AE won't leave me undergunned against large predatory animals.

I still bring a rifle as a primary of course, but the .50 is appropriate in such a setting I think.

I have a lot of experience shooting full-house .45s, so learning the .50AE wasn't THAT bad.
SevenSixtyTwo  [Member]
7/18/2010 5:36:38 PM
Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls:
Cool, turns out the seller sold it. It was cheap. He was moving to a gun ban state. I'll post the price since it's sold. It was fairly new all black with 50 rounds through it & another 50 that came with it & 2 mags for $700. That was a steal! Only reason I was thinking of getting it. I thought too long :(


Moving to a gun ban state would never drive me to sell a gun because the state legislature frowns upon it.
BusaBoy2009  [Member]
7/18/2010 6:27:15 PM
Originally Posted By SOC:
Same caliber, superior platform.

http://i49.tinypic.com/28kmznr.jpg

Ether way you need size large glove hands.


You do know this is the Desert Eagle forum....right?
Xela  [Member]
7/18/2010 6:58:10 PM
I had one in .44, awesome gun. I have normal/small hands and it was still shootable. Recoil is not that bad, the massive slide and gas powered action soak up alot. I sold it because I didn't shoot it that much due to costs ( I was in college when I bought it) Your best bet for finding an inexpensive one is a big gun store. Lots of people buy them, hate them, then sell then back. Stores have a hard time unloading them, and the prices are low. I bought mine for $550, and had three others I was looking at. I picked the nicest one of the bunch.
lcplblazer  [Member]
8/14/2010 11:21:43 AM
Well if you rule out hunting (or self defense against big animals), the range, and carry (considering that's about as impractical as carrying a Mac10)... then there really aren't many other reasons to get it besides the cool factor. Which was good enough for me lol
The Desert Eagle is about the most "useless" firearm I own... however its also just about my favorite. (I have the .44 and .50 barrel for it)

And no... Desert Eagles are not illegal in California....

Originally Posted By SOC:
Same caliber, superior platform.

http://i49.tinypic.com/28kmznr.jpg

Ether way you need size large glove hands.


Not actually the superior platform for .50 and .44... cool story though....
AndyHk93M4  [Member]
8/20/2010 12:38:26 AM
I haven't shot mine for quite some time, (maybe over a year or two), so I took it to the range along with a friend of mine who had never shoot one.
I brought a number of other great guns with us and sort of figured I might not even shoot it that day. I wound up taking it out and with in minutes I had a small crowd around the both of us with everyone laughing and wanting to shoot the gun. I really had a blast that day and had forgotten how much fun it is to shoot the dam thing and how much fun it is to watch other peoples reactions when they shoot or saw the gun.

After we where done shooting I had said to a few of them that as much fun as it was to shoot that I had thought that the gun, along with the price of ammo, was a bit ridiculous and that I had I had considered selling it from time to time. Well, everyones reaction was the same: they all felt I'd be nuts if I sold it.

it's certainly not the first gun you should get but if you already have a few and are looking to get something a little different to add to your collection.....

and how could this.....


325 gr (21.1 g) Ball 1,305 ft/s (398 m/s) 1,229 ft·lbf (1,666 J)

325 gr (21.1 g) JHP 1,400 ft/s (430 m/s) 1,415 ft·lbf (1,918 J)

300 gr (19 g) JHP 1, 550 ft/s (470 m/s) 1,600 ft·lbf (2,200 J)


be a bad thing?
AR15Texan  [Member]
8/20/2010 1:01:41 AM
It keeps Israelis employed.
ar154all  [Team Member]
8/20/2010 1:27:27 AM
I have had them in .44 and .357. I am over 6 foot and 400#+.

the DE platform is a bitch, both of mine never saw more than a few hundred rounds, as I value the structural integrity of my wrists.

If you get it; it will mostlikely be the 'one' that all your friends want to shoot. If it's a good deal; get it to make a buck later.

YMMV
cantgrowup  [Team Member]
8/22/2010 10:35:13 AM
Originally Posted By AR15Texan:
It keeps Israelis employed.


Not any more! Made in the USA now.

At an outdoor range in Houston, they asked me not to shoot my .50AE on the pistol range, but asked me to go use the rifle range. Said it had too much muzzle blast. But I could shoot my .44 mag DE barrel kit on the pistol range. Good thing I didn't bring my S&W 500 Magnum. It makes the .50AE look like a popgun.
WilsonCQB1911  [Team Member]
10/6/2010 9:20:46 PM
Do they make a good hunting sidearm? Like for hogs?