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 9mm 1911 very high round count test to start soon.
TuskenRaider  [Team Member]
6/3/2012 9:43:28 AM
http://pistol-training.com/archives/6718



This guy has done a few test on pistols and puts them up over 50,000 rounds. Does a good job of documenting it also. Should be fun to see how the 1911 does compared to the others he has tested. M&P,2 H&K's and Glock
BlindFaith429  [Member]
6/3/2012 1:17:47 PM
Interesting. Curious to see the outcome. Little upset that he is doing it in 9mm, but to each his own.

I'd really like to see what mags he uses in the gun, if he tries all different brands, and goes into discussion on them. To me, that is one part that shouldn't be left out.
Clay54961  [Team Member]
6/3/2012 3:10:57 PM
From what i read isn't he doing it with a 2000 dollar custom 1911? that and the fact it is in 9mm kinda invalidates the test for me. For starters he isn't testing a gun that has the specs of a GI model which is going to be the reliable one because when they tighten up the tolerances is when they start to lose some of that reliability that the GI models are known for. correct me if I'm wrong but to me it doesn't seem like he is testing much of anything. But this is just my humble opinion so i could be very wrong.
Alex_B69  [Team Member]
6/3/2012 8:44:24 PM
I have never seen an operator in 9mm. From my experience custom guns tend to be more demanding than off the shelf guns. I have 2 Springfield operator - one is a LW frame. The steel frame version has about 2500 rounds with ZERO malfunctions out of the box. It has been cleaned every 250 rounds, so not a torture test. The LW frame gun has about 1500 rounds, with also no malfunctions. Both have shot FMJ and HP ammo of several different brands.

The operator LW has a ramped barrel as opposed to the 1911 traditional barrel on the steel frame version.

On another topic, my M&P 9mm lost it front sight today... It just become loose and flew away during shooting.
ken_mays  [Team Member]
6/4/2012 12:18:19 AM
There is no "GI spec" for 9mm 1911s. Also, I am a big believer in getting more for the money with 1911s. I've had more problems with run-of-the-mill production 1911s (plunger tubes getting loose, extractor tension issues, feedramp problems, etc) than I ever have with a semi-custom or full custom 1911.

I'll be interested to see the outcome of the test, but I've already tested my 9mm 1911s in several multi-day training sessions and a lot more matches. I know how reliable mine are.
Gregory_K  [Team Member]
6/4/2012 7:12:40 AM
Just because it looks like GI Spec does not mean it is GI spec. It would be a short list for true GI Spec current production 1911s.

The most trouble free 1911s I've ever owned were ones that were semi custom, modified by me and a local smith, for the work I did not know how to do.

Sloppy clearances does not = reliable gun, just a sloppy assembled one.