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AvengeR15  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 12:41:52 AM
I've been kicking around the idea lately of maybe purchasing an old Browning Auto 5 and turning it into a retro-tactical fighting shotgun, in a similar vein to THellURider's lever action seen below:




I love this look, and have always heard great things about the Browning shotguns. I was thinking about maybe sanding & refinishing the stock, bead-blasting and GunKoting the receiver, adding an extended tube and a sling, possibly even a sidesaddle. Has anyone tried a similar project? Any issues with the Auto 5 I should know about before beginning? Thanks.
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wombat25  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 1:03:00 AM
You and I are on the same page. I just purchased this - http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=93&t=872310 - w/ a 2-shot Nordic Comp magazine extension...it's on it's way to me now. I was inspired by another member's fantastic looking Remington Model 11, which he put a magazine extension on and Duracoated, if I recall correctly.

You don't see a lot of these shotguns in riot gun form due to the nature of the action. The barrel is integral to the action and reciprocates with each shot, so when the barrel is cut down you lose some of the barrel weight which was countering the energy of the shot, and may have reliability or recoil issues. As such, you may have to do some tuning to get it to run right with light and/or heavy loads. Here's a decent article on getting older Browning Auto-5s running properly - http://www.chuckhawks.com/browning_A-5_running.htm. You also can't, of course, clamp the magazine to the barrel.

I'm looking forward to the tuning, though. Good opportunity to learn more about these neat shotguns.




ETA - I've been wondering about the nest way to add a short piece of rail, or a side sling swivel, on the magazine tube. Haven't quite figured out the best way yet. I like the super-clean solution on that Marlin.


ETA II - Pics



oldgunner  [Member]
5/31/2011 2:05:24 AM
I did it with a model 11 and there are a few other guys here who have retro tactical A5/clones
AvengeR15  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 2:44:06 AM

Originally Posted By oldgunner:
I did it with a model 11 and there are a few other guys here who have retro tactical A5/clones

Cool. Got a link to a thread, or any pics? Thanks.
oldgunner  [Member]
5/31/2011 3:00:02 AM
Ill get a pic tomorrow. There is a member Zekemeur who postspics of his savage a lot. You could try searching for his posts in shotgun forum. Got his name wrong its zekemenaur.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=333801
M1A4ME  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 5:50:59 AM
I started one myself.



mid to late 30's Auto 5 purchased a couple weeks back for $300. Ramiline synthetic stock/forend. Extended tube. Still trying to decide about removing the old poly choke/having screw in choke installed/leaving barrel as is after removing the poly choke, etc. Also still trying to decide whether to refinish or leave as is. It was graded as "poor condition" which is why it was so cheap. Some 3n1 oil and 0000 steel wool and elbow grease took care of the metal finish issues.

Also ordered spring kit and new friction rings for it. We'll see how it shoots. Seems pretty light really. Lighter than I expected. Then again, its another John Browning design just like my 1911's and Ithaca M37.
oldgunner  [Member]
5/31/2011 2:25:37 PM
Ok heres my Remington model 11 sportsman. Edit to add bigger picture.
Nightdriver  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 6:22:19 PM
Savage 720 that's still a work in progress

Had the gun parked after I cut the barrel down.
Cut the stock down and put a recoil pad on, however the pad I put on is tearing out at the toe so now I'm looking for a different one and then try to fix the missing chunk from the wrist.



Left the game scene on



Trying to come up with a good way to low mount a rear fiber optic sight on the receiver.
Saddler  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 6:55:48 PM
Very interesting project

Who makes accessories that will attach to an Auto-5??

Seen Ram-Line mentioned for stocks & such - but who makes extension tubes, etc.?
oldgunner  [Member]
5/31/2011 8:05:07 PM
Originally Posted By Saddler:
Very interesting project

Who makes accessories that will attach to an Auto-5??

Seen Ram-Line mentioned for stocks & such - but who makes extension tubes, etc.?



Regular Rem 870 extension has the same threads. However the length of the threaded section on the magazine tube is longer than the threads in the extension. Guys either shorten the magazine tube or use spacers between the 2. Its important that it fit properly because the forearm keeps the barrel from traveling too far foward when the gun goes into battery. The magazine cap, or extension keep the forearm from moving foward.
LessThanZero  [Team Member]
5/31/2011 8:44:52 PM

Originally Posted By Saddler:
Very interesting project

Who makes accessories that will attach to an Auto-5??

Seen Ram-Line mentioned for stocks & such - but who makes extension tubes, etc.?


Remingtion
Wilson
Nordic Comp
Basically any manufacture that makes one for a Remington 870 or 11-87.

As for other accessories, I have no idea. I have two Remington Model 11's and a Savage 720 (BTW they are up for sale on the EE), and the one issue I've found is replacement wood furniture. Other than that, all the small parts are plentiful.
ronin275  [Member]
5/31/2011 10:50:01 PM
I got a Remington M11 R (riot model) a few years back. Someone put a choke on it. It came with a 20" barrel when it was made (early 1920s). I made a tube nut to hold the forearm on, added 2 shot extention and new spring. It works great. I will try to get a better pic this week.
RLTW

Combat_Diver  [Team Member]
6/1/2011 7:03:14 AM
Here's my Browning A5 made right after WWII when production resumed. Barrel has been cut back to 20" cyl bore and stock shortend. Fiber optic sights have been added to the rib. Its been 100% realible throughout the years.



CD
JakeMetzger  [Team Member]
6/4/2011 6:28:17 PM
My Auto 5...





I like it a lot.
Ride  [Member]
6/5/2011 6:48:19 PM
Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
I've been kicking around the idea lately of maybe purchasing an old Browning Auto 5 and turning it into a retro-tactical fighting shotgun, in a similar vein to THellURider's lever action seen below:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/THellURider/DSC_0151.jpg


I love this look, and have always heard great things about the Browning shotguns. I was thinking about maybe sanding & refinishing the stock, bead-blasting and GunKoting the receiver, adding an extended tube and a sling, possibly even a sidesaddle. Has anyone tried a similar project? Any issues with the Auto 5 I should know about before beginning? Thanks.


Wow! what model / brand is that Lever shotgun? I'm also liking your auto5 idea. . . .
wombat25  [Team Member]
6/5/2011 11:22:58 PM
Originally Posted By Ride:
Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
I've been kicking around the idea lately of maybe purchasing an old Browning Auto 5 and turning it into a retro-tactical fighting shotgun, in a similar vein to THellURider's lever action seen below:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/THellURider/DSC_0151.jpg


I love this look, and have always heard great things about the Browning shotguns. I was thinking about maybe sanding & refinishing the stock, bead-blasting and GunKoting the receiver, adding an extended tube and a sling, possibly even a sidesaddle. Has anyone tried a similar project? Any issues with the Auto 5 I should know about before beginning? Thanks.


Wow! what model / brand is that Lever shotgun? I'm also liking your auto5 idea. . . .


While Marlin did do a limited run of .410 lever-action shotguns (the Model 410, IIRC) a number of years ago, I would venture to guess that the THellURider's lever action is actually a rifle, and OP is going for the same sort of retro-tactical 'look' as the Marlin.

Which, by the way, is a good topic for another thread. I would love to find a reasonably-priced Winchester 9410 or Marlin 410 someday. Savage also made their 99 in .410...I saw one at a gun show a few months but passed. I think it was priced north of $600.00...
para_frame  [Team Member]
6/12/2011 1:07:16 AM
Are we posting our retro tactical A-5 based guns? Hell yes, this is my pre M11 made in 1910.

Sometimes I carry it on my keys. (actually I have no idea why I have this picture.)
AvengeR15  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 10:36:59 AM

Originally Posted By para_frame:
Are we posting our retro tactical A-5 based guns? Hell yes, this is my pre M11 made in 1910.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/paraframe/002.jpg
Sometimes I carry it on my keys. (actually I have no idea why I have this picture.)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/paraframe/002-2.jpg

Very nice.

Anyone got any more? I still haven't purchased one yet, although I found a nice Model 11 for around $200 at a local shop.
wombat25  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 12:17:09 PM
If it's in halfway decent condition, buy it. They haven't been that cheap here in 10-15 years. If it has the bomb proof mark, get down there ASAP.

Then post pics.


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MattNificent  [Member]
7/27/2011 1:11:05 AM
why not do it with a lever action shotgun?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=243352726

para_frame  [Team Member]
7/27/2011 1:47:07 AM
Here is a newer one of my model 11.
ch139  [Member]
7/27/2011 3:38:19 AM
I've yet to get any of these shotguns for myself, but there are a couple on my list.

Most inspirational for me is the retro beast pictured below. I do not remember who this belongs to, but with the rib, cut-down barrel and that big ole Cutts on the end I just have happy dreams at night. Then there is threads like this that bring it right back to the front of my mind and I can’t stop thinking about it. Imagine I’ll have one sooner than later. Just wanted to share the ONE that is goading me...






Bhart89  [Team Member]
7/27/2011 7:23:20 AM
FN A5

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