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5/1/2012 6:47:34 AM
If i cut my mosin barrel down to 22" or so, do i have to have the special crowning tools, or can i just file smooth and debur the inside?
5/1/2012 9:22:13 AM
Originally Posted By saliva2002:
If i cut my mosin barrel down to 22" or so, do i have to have the special crowning tools, or can i just file smooth and debur the inside?
If i cut my mosin barrel down to 22" or so, do i have to have the special crowning tools, or can i just file smooth and debur the inside?
It depends on how good you are at cutting. I have cut barrels down with a saw then file them until even.
You can get a small cone shaped grinding stone at Harbor Freight that will clean up the muzzle a bit, kind of a redneck crown job.
Mine have always shot at least as well as before the shortening process.
5/1/2012 1:47:56 PM
I used a "ball" shaped stone in a low speed drill to re-crown my cut down Mosin. You must make sure the end of the barrel is "square" before attempting to re-crown.
5/2/2012 5:45:06 AM
For what it's worth, I cut my last one down with a tubing cutter like you would use to cut copper pipe, just took my time and went slowly.
I saw your other post on accuracy and you mentioned adding a scope. Might I suggest going scout style with a pistol (long eye relief) scope? Then you don't have to dink with the bolt handle or any other semi-complicated scope bases.
Here are two of mine that I've cut and crowned at home, the first with the scope setup I just mentioned. I have a thread in my MO hometown forum, but to summarize, it shoots the Privi 150gr softpoints very well. I plan on taking it out at least once this coming deer season.
I saw your other post on accuracy and you mentioned adding a scope. Might I suggest going scout style with a pistol (long eye relief) scope? Then you don't have to dink with the bolt handle or any other semi-complicated scope bases.
Here are two of mine that I've cut and crowned at home, the first with the scope setup I just mentioned. I have a thread in my MO hometown forum, but to summarize, it shoots the Privi 150gr softpoints very well. I plan on taking it out at least once this coming deer season.
5/2/2012 8:47:52 PM
I have been working on sporterizing an old beat up non numbers matching Mosin myself.
I cut my barrel down to 22 inches using a hacksaw with a 3 year old lennox blade in 30 seconds. They are not as hard of steel as people make them out to be.
I squared it up using a belt sander. Used a round nose rotary file to do a redneck crown. Polished it up with the same rotary file wrapped in scotchbrite.
I can't vouch for accuracy unfortunately as the last time I fired it was about 15 rounds sightless trying to hit a 12 inch gong and 200 yards using the top of the receiver for reference.
I cut my barrel down to 22 inches using a hacksaw with a 3 year old lennox blade in 30 seconds. They are not as hard of steel as people make them out to be.
I squared it up using a belt sander. Used a round nose rotary file to do a redneck crown. Polished it up with the same rotary file wrapped in scotchbrite.
I can't vouch for accuracy unfortunately as the last time I fired it was about 15 rounds sightless trying to hit a 12 inch gong and 200 yards using the top of the receiver for reference.
5/2/2012 9:25:38 PM
I guess I have to add to this thread . I picked up a heavily bubbaized Mosin from a pawn shop cheap . I cut it down to 16 inches and added a flash hider no sights it had none when I bought it . 
We cut the barrel and crowned it with a radius cutter . the bipod was somewhat of a joke
We cut the barrel and crowned it with a radius cutter . the bipod was somewhat of a joke
5/3/2012 3:43:36 AM
Originally Posted By XDS:
For what it's worth, I cut my last one down with a tubing cutter like you would use to cut copper pipe, just took my time and went slowly.
I saw your other post on accuracy and you mentioned adding a scope. Might I suggest going scout style with a pistol (long eye relief) scope? Then you don't have to dink with the bolt handle or any other semi-complicated scope bases.
Here are two of mine that I've cut and crowned at home, the first with the scope setup I just mentioned. I have a thread in my MO hometown forum, but to summarize, it shoots the Privi 150gr softpoints very well. I plan on taking it out at least once this coming deer season.
http://weather.xsintrk.net/AR15/MosinScount01.jpg
http://www.xsintrk.net/AR15/Mosin_9130_Carbine.jpg
For what it's worth, I cut my last one down with a tubing cutter like you would use to cut copper pipe, just took my time and went slowly.
I saw your other post on accuracy and you mentioned adding a scope. Might I suggest going scout style with a pistol (long eye relief) scope? Then you don't have to dink with the bolt handle or any other semi-complicated scope bases.
Here are two of mine that I've cut and crowned at home, the first with the scope setup I just mentioned. I have a thread in my MO hometown forum, but to summarize, it shoots the Privi 150gr softpoints very well. I plan on taking it out at least once this coming deer season.
http://weather.xsintrk.net/AR15/MosinScount01.jpg
http://www.xsintrk.net/AR15/Mosin_9130_Carbine.jpg
4 things, what did you paint the barrel with on teh first one, what kind of scope is it, and did you move the front sling hole on the second one, and also on the second one, what holds the front of the handguard on?
I would like to do a long eye relief scope, but i can't find one in the 60 range i could find a regular scope, otherwise i would do that....
5/3/2012 1:47:02 PM
Originally Posted By saliva2002:
4 things, what did you paint the barrel with on teh first one, what kind of scope is it, and did you move the front sling hole on the second one, and also on the second one, what holds the front of the handguard on?
I would like to do a long eye relief scope, but i can't find one in the 60 range i could find a regular scope, otherwise i would do that....
Originally Posted By XDS:
For what it's worth, I cut my last one down with a tubing cutter like you would use to cut copper pipe, just took my time and went slowly.
I saw your other post on accuracy and you mentioned adding a scope. Might I suggest going scout style with a pistol (long eye relief) scope? Then you don't have to dink with the bolt handle or any other semi-complicated scope bases.
Here are two of mine that I've cut and crowned at home, the first with the scope setup I just mentioned. I have a thread in my MO hometown forum, but to summarize, it shoots the Privi 150gr softpoints very well. I plan on taking it out at least once this coming deer season.
http://weather.xsintrk.net/AR15/MosinScount01.jpg
http://www.xsintrk.net/AR15/Mosin_9130_Carbine.jpg
For what it's worth, I cut my last one down with a tubing cutter like you would use to cut copper pipe, just took my time and went slowly.
I saw your other post on accuracy and you mentioned adding a scope. Might I suggest going scout style with a pistol (long eye relief) scope? Then you don't have to dink with the bolt handle or any other semi-complicated scope bases.
Here are two of mine that I've cut and crowned at home, the first with the scope setup I just mentioned. I have a thread in my MO hometown forum, but to summarize, it shoots the Privi 150gr softpoints very well. I plan on taking it out at least once this coming deer season.
http://weather.xsintrk.net/AR15/MosinScount01.jpg
http://www.xsintrk.net/AR15/Mosin_9130_Carbine.jpg
4 things, what did you paint the barrel with on teh first one, what kind of scope is it, and did you move the front sling hole on the second one, and also on the second one, what holds the front of the handguard on?
I would like to do a long eye relief scope, but i can't find one in the 60 range i could find a regular scope, otherwise i would do that....
The first Mosin was powdercoated in textured black powder at home. 2nd, scope is a AIM Sports 2x7 from Amazon, 55$ shipped. http://www.amazon.com/Sports-2-7X32-Relief-Scope-Rings/dp/B003BRB1PM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336067133&sr=8-1
Second rifle, yes, I made a new front sling slot and moved the metal guard for the slot. The handguard is held on by the original rear barrel band.
5/3/2012 8:03:24 PM
I guess i'm just surprised the rear band was enough to keep the front down. I think i saw somewhere online that the older models have the rear sight soldered in, which means i would have a hell of a time getting that out....
5/3/2012 10:03:36 PM
My 1932 was not soldered. Rear sight came right off with no effort.
5/7/2012 2:08:00 AM
what kind of flash hider is on the second rifle? It's awesome where can i get one?
5/7/2012 2:34:23 AM
Originally Posted By big_tex78:
what kind of flash hider is on the second rifle? It's awesome where can i get one?
what kind of flash hider is on the second rifle? It's awesome where can i get one?
from a PM when I asked about the same type of flash hider:
Numrich gun parts. Look for the "Jungle Carbine" flash hider. Don't forget the front sight post as well, you have to order that separate.
5/7/2012 11:12:43 AM
Originally Posted By saliva2002:
from a PM when I asked about the same type of flash hider:
Numrich gun parts. Look for the "Jungle Carbine" flash hider. Don't forget the front sight post as well, you have to order that separate.
Originally Posted By big_tex78:
what kind of flash hider is on the second rifle? It's awesome where can i get one?
what kind of flash hider is on the second rifle? It's awesome where can i get one?
from a PM when I asked about the same type of flash hider:
Numrich gun parts. Look for the "Jungle Carbine" flash hider. Don't forget the front sight post as well, you have to order that separate.
I'll be damned, right off an Enfield carbine.
How is this all attached?
5/7/2012 3:20:37 PM
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
5/7/2012 3:32:10 PM
Originally Posted By XDS:
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
5/7/2012 4:12:53 PM
Originally Posted By HellSpork:
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
Originally Posted By XDS:
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
sure is a purdy rifle. i also want to know about this.
5/7/2012 5:01:13 PM
Originally Posted By HellSpork:
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
Originally Posted By XDS:
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
It's the new one. I just pulled the rifle and confirmed the OD at the barrel where the hider slipped on. It's 0.671". Your mileage may vary based on how much machine work Ivan was putting into the lathe that day. This one is a 1943 model.
5/10/2012 10:36:49 PM
This thread title made me sad. 
5/10/2012 10:43:59 PM
There must be something wrong with me. I like the looks of those shortened rifles with the Jungle Carbine flash hider.
5/11/2012 11:34:18 PM
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
There must be something wrong with me. I like the looks of those shortened rifles with the Jungle Carbine flash hider.
There must be something wrong with me. I like the looks of those shortened rifles with the Jungle Carbine flash hider.
+1
5/12/2012 3:47:12 PM
Originally Posted By Hb2:
This thread title made me sad.
This thread title made me sad.
Me too. Go buy a fucking Savage if you need a cheap sporting rifle and stop butchering these beautiful rifles.
5/13/2012 3:44:47 AM
Originally Posted By XDS:
It's the new one. I just pulled the rifle and confirmed the OD at the barrel where the hider slipped on. It's 0.671". Your mileage may vary based on how much machine work Ivan was putting into the lathe that day. This one is a 1943 model.
Originally Posted By HellSpork:
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
Originally Posted By XDS:
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
On my rifle, the barrel diameter worked out to be just right at 16 1/4" for the ID of the jungle flash hider. I drilled and pinned mine with the included pins.
You are my hero, and I now know exactly how my next Mosin is getting set up...
Edit: From Numrich, I assume you're talking about the .590" ID flash hider, not the .670" ID "pre drilled, newly manufacuted" model, right?
It's the new one. I just pulled the rifle and confirmed the OD at the barrel where the hider slipped on. It's 0.671". Your mileage may vary based on how much machine work Ivan was putting into the lathe that day. This one is a 1943 model.
how does it shoot?
5/13/2012 9:16:01 PM
Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:
Me too. Go buy a fucking Savage if you need a cheap sporting rifle and stop butchering these beautiful rifles.
Originally Posted By Hb2:
This thread title made me sad.
This thread title made me sad.
Me too. Go buy a fucking Savage if you need a cheap sporting rifle and stop butchering these beautiful rifles.
I bought a Mosin 91/30 that already had a cut barrel. Does that make me a bad person to?
5/14/2012 7:36:40 AM
Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:
Me too. Go buy a fucking Savage if you need a cheap sporting rifle and stop butchering these beautiful rifles.
Originally Posted By Hb2:
This thread title made me sad.
This thread title made me sad.
Me too. Go buy a fucking Savage if you need a cheap sporting rifle and stop butchering these beautiful rifles.
No one is out to hurt YOUR collection. Go add MORE to it, so you can protect them.
Also, if no one modifies them, then YOURS won't gain in value. If no Mosins were bubba'd or otherwise personalized, your Mosins will still be worth $89-100 in 30 years.
