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I've used Pyrodex for years...
2/3/2012 3:00:14 PM
but has anyone tried Alliant Black MZ or Goex Pinnacle?
2/5/2012 9:49:14 AM
I've shot Pyrodex since I started shooting muzzleloading rifles, SxS shotguns and C&B revolvers at 14 years old. It's worked for me for the past 25+ years so I haven't had a urge to try anything different. When I bought a Pietta 1851 .44cal I was given 2 pounds of Triple 7. I tried a few cylinders full and found it fouled up quicker than Pyrodex. I haven't touched it since.
I did pick up a flintlock recently and found that Pyrodex did not ignite reliably. I'm going to have to try regular black powder for that one, unless someone has another recommendation.
I did pick up a flintlock recently and found that Pyrodex did not ignite reliably. I'm going to have to try regular black powder for that one, unless someone has another recommendation.
2/5/2012 12:14:17 PM
I have several sparkers and Goex (real bp) is the only thing that works all the time.
2/6/2012 12:41:26 AM
Originally Posted By Southrnshooter:
I have several sparkers and Goex (real bp) is the only thing that works all the time.
I have several sparkers and Goex (real bp) is the only thing that works all the time.
+1
Goex FFFg, all I ever buy.
2/6/2012 9:39:38 AM
Originally Posted By troutbum86:
+1
Goex FFFg, all I ever buy.
Originally Posted By Southrnshooter:
I have several sparkers and Goex (real bp) is the only thing that works all the time.
I have several sparkers and Goex (real bp) is the only thing that works all the time.
+1
Goex FFFg, all I ever buy.
Well, I'll pick up some FFg Goex to use in my T/C Hawken .50 flintlock. If I'm going to use it there, I may as well standardize and grab some FFFg to use in my C&B revolvers, too.
I've used Pyrodex for a long time, but I'm not that attached to it.
2/6/2012 11:00:50 AM
I've found the FFFg to burn a little cleaner than FFg. FFg gave me little red kernels in my bore. No such problem in my .54 with FFFg. The lawyers say not to use FFFg in anything bigger than a .45, but I've been using it in .50's and .54's for years, never any problems.
2/6/2012 1:29:18 PM
Originally Posted By troutbum86:
I've found the FFFg to burn a little cleaner than FFg. FFg gave me little red kernels in my bore. No such problem in my .54 with FFFg. The lawyers say not to use FFFg in anything bigger than a .45, but I've been using it in .50's and .54's for years, never any problems.
I've found the FFFg to burn a little cleaner than FFg. FFg gave me little red kernels in my bore. No such problem in my .54 with FFFg. The lawyers say not to use FFFg in anything bigger than a .45, but I've been using it in .50's and .54's for years, never any problems.
There isn't any reason to not use FFFg in a .50 or .54.
Hawgleg, since you need some for the pistol anyway just buy all FFFg and don't worry about the FFg.
2/6/2012 3:25:46 PM
Originally Posted By pepperbelly:
There isn't any reason to not use FFFg in a .50 or .54.
Hawgleg, since you need some for the pistol anyway just buy all FFFg and don't worry about the FFg.
Originally Posted By troutbum86:
I've found the FFFg to burn a little cleaner than FFg. FFg gave me little red kernels in my bore. No such problem in my .54 with FFFg. The lawyers say not to use FFFg in anything bigger than a .45, but I've been using it in .50's and .54's for years, never any problems.
I've found the FFFg to burn a little cleaner than FFg. FFg gave me little red kernels in my bore. No such problem in my .54 with FFFg. The lawyers say not to use FFFg in anything bigger than a .45, but I've been using it in .50's and .54's for years, never any problems.
There isn't any reason to not use FFFg in a .50 or .54.
Hawgleg, since you need some for the pistol anyway just buy all FFFg and don't worry about the FFg.
I'll have to pick up some FFg anyway since I hunt pheasants with a Pedersoli 12ga SxS muzzleloader. I don't think I want to try FFFg in that.
2/7/2012 9:26:07 PM
I use 3F in my 58 Cal Springfield and in my 75 Cal Brown Bess with no problems. Just reduce the powder charge a little. Much better ignition and like others have said it is a "little" cleaner if BP can be considered clean at all. 
I have stopped buying 2F altogether. 3F for charging and 4F from priming is all I buy now.
I have stopped buying 2F altogether. 3F for charging and 4F from priming is all I buy now.
2/7/2012 9:38:30 PM
The difference is how coarse the granules are. The powder is the same. The charge does need to be reduced due to the finer granulations having more powder in the charge than the more coarse granulations.
BP is measured by volume, not weight. There is less air space between the smaller granules of FFFg than FFg. I think that also is why the FFFg is a little cleaner- it ignites more completely. Part of the fouling is unburned powder, or incomplete powder burn.
Jim
BP is measured by volume, not weight. There is less air space between the smaller granules of FFFg than FFg. I think that also is why the FFFg is a little cleaner- it ignites more completely. Part of the fouling is unburned powder, or incomplete powder burn.
Jim
