Would you pay extra to get your Forms approved faster?

Like when you need a new passport in a hurry you can pay some extra fee and they do it in 24 hours. How much would you pay to have your Form 1/4 approved in let's say, 4 weeks? an exrta $200? $400 ?

Frank

Sure,

Don't we all pay more for instant gratification every time we shop at cabela's or bass pro shops?

If they would just use some of the tax money we give them to hire new examiners we wouldnt have this problem. But to answer your question, ya, I would spend more, depending on what it was I was waiting on.

No. Cost is not the reason it takes so long now.

ETA: nor the reason our schools suck or we haven't won the war on poverty yet.

Yes, would be nice to have the option. Passport was delayed and called to pay the upgraded fee, it was in the mail the next day

Bad plan. If the line were made shorter by payin 200 extra(on top of the 200 already) people would just pay 400 and clog the line up again. And the poor smucks that were not willling to pay an additional 200 bucks would be disenfranchised. where would it stop. I could see a dedicated OT fund in which examiners would be able to work 8 hours a day on normal ones, and then after hours work on special ones. but there is still a lmited number of examiners and that could get clogged quickly also.

I doubt the background check for Class 3 is much different from the NICS check. I would love to find out why it takes months to approve a stamp.

While I might, I agree with the above. It would just play into the rich man's hands and further exclude Joe Plumber's entry into a sector of the shooting sports where the prices are already artificially high on an outrageous level (MGs specifically, but I think suppressors would be cheaper without the tax stamp because they'd probably sell 5 times as many.).

Yeah. For some things I would.

For MGs, heck yeah! I wouldn't for others unless it's an sbr host, but suppressors don't have the luster for me that they once did. The happy switch, on the other hand,

+1

If the extra money would go to streamlining the process, I would definitely pay. Right now the process reminds me of an old woman transferring phone calls through switch board. I also believe they should not cash your check unless your stamp is approved. Something I would like to see in the future is checking your status on an ATF site. Then the receptionist can do something useful like brewing more coffee.

I've always been curious as to how long an examiner takes to process one F1/3/4/whatever. It's probably only minutes, but with the volume they are dealing with the system needs streamlined. It would be nice to see a section of their web site where you can enter your name and item SN and get some feedback.

No I would like to pay nothing but my regular taxes and have them done instantly at the gun store by the gun dealer that does the same background check on my when I buy a non NFA item there. The fact that we have to wait is just silly with todays technology on background checking. I can understand the time it takes to process the stamp but a temp. stamp could be issued until the primary one is received or let the dealers hand them out and stop calling them stamps.

Its the volume, your application doesn't take months it takes months to go thought all the pending applications before its your turn in the queue.

Exactly. It would speed up the system, for a very very very brief time, then it would all get mucked up again.
They need to spend the somewhat $10 mil or so we send every year in house, not send it to the general fund.
Things such as more examiners or an updated system for entering/checking the form 1/4 would be of much greater benefit.

But hey, that would imply;
our government has some level of attentiveness to the needs of the people
that they pull their heads out of their bureaucracy for air
and that they care.

And in this I forgot to mention,

ITS STUPID THAT SILENCERS ARE COVERED UNDER THIS!!!!!! We should be able to walk into the hardware or gun store and buy one of these off of the shelf with a 4473 included!

Myself, No... If something like this were to come avaliable, if I were to pay $400 instead of $200 I would still have a 6-8month wait, and those who didnt would have a 8-12month wait... I think the money each of us pay in an unfair tax shoul dbe used to hire additional examiners!

Honestly, as much as I wish I could afford a MG, I think SBR's and Suppressors should be exempt from the $200 tax and 6-8 month wait.. As more and more staes are allowing suppressors for lawful game hunting. The purchasing and posession of said NFA item shoudn't be any more difficult to obtan than a new hunting rifle... Which with a TX CHL I can walk in hand money for ANY HANDGUN OR RIFLE and walk out the store without a NCIC check in 10-15minutes..

Apparently it appeases the anti-gun lobby to suppresse the legal law abiding citizens of our great nation... I doubt anything will get better and our wait will only get longer.

Is the volume equally proportional to the number of NICS checks and people who are handing them?

Any stupider than SBR's being on it?

Not sure if serious.

First off, there are no fingerprint checks with NICS.

As for why it takes so long to approve stamp - the 12,000 forms in front of yours.

Plus the fact that all the NFA weapons that the SOT Dealers & LE departments are getting transfered.. not just civilians

I've never submitted fingerprints for any of my NFA items. There are probably 12,000 approvals done per week through NICS.

NO! Why should we pay EXTRA for something our tax dollars already pay for? If the powers that be would look at the increase in workload and realize that there is justification to hire more people we would have a better quality service. $200.00 per form for just for doing a little computer punching, paper shuffling and licking a stamp. Thats more than pay enough.

No. They need to just remove all of the items except for MGs from the NFA process. MGs I can actually slightly understand a time wait, tax etc. SLIGHTLY UNDERSTAND. But with everything else, there is no reason at all for a stamp and wait. SBRs abd SBSs are the same as any other damn gun, and suppressors aren't a bad thing on guns. If only MGs had to go through the process, I'd be fine with that. My wait for one of those would be one week then since the volume is so little. That woudl literally be the tits.

so what's your point? you must be utilizing a trust/similar. otherwise, as an individual, you would be submitting fingerprint cards. like LOTS of people do every day.

my first 5 stamps were "individual". all had fingerprint cards submitted. all subsequent submissions were for my trust.

the "speed" (or lack there of) lies in the present process (and its horrible backlog), not in the action

ONLY if the additional fee resulted in a right there on the spot issuance.

No I would not
The reasons are as long as my arm .

They can't prevent you from filing, and they can't make them illegal, but they can have minimum examiners and slow the process down.

The Constitution Bill Of Rights says you can have stuff, they didn't guarantee you could have it in a reasonable amount of time.

"shall not be infriged"

The entire NFA process is your right to bear arms being infinged upon.

Not really sure how in the world laws can be passed that obviously violate the constitution. Back in the day, stuff like this would have probably been death for people trying to pull crap like some of the gun laws we currently have.

You're right, of course, I was lulled into complacency.

I guess it's proof of becoming accustomed to the bar having been moved/lowered.
I blame it on a public school education.

Thanks for the reality check.

Let the ATF change the transfer fee from $200 to $2000, lets see if the wait time is at 6 months... I bet you it won't!

If the ATF automatically approve Form 4/1's that was sent in with a Trust or Corps, we wouldn't have to wait 6-8 months.

With a Trust or Corps, all the ATF has to do is determine if the Trust or Corps is legit, thats it! No other research should be done.

I pay extra already to reduce the wait time. See my sig.

HELL NO

I already do, in time and $$$.

I probably would because I would lack patience and self control to wait 6 months for my toys (so it's a good thing they don't charge more for rushed services or else I would have wasted alot of money)

as soon as the option existed to pay more for faster service, you'd end up paying more for *regular* service and $200 for really-super-slow service.

No.

NO. Almost everyone will pay the extra $200. Soon the "express" service will take 6 months and the non "express" will take a year.

Yes I would, but so would plenty of other folks so those of you saying the waits would not really improve are spot on. This 6 month + wait time is doing its job of keeping me from buying another MG. I just really don't feel like playing anymore.

Does a cat have an ass? Yes I would be extra.But not double maybe an extra $50 for expedited processing.

YES

I would just like passport.

I'd pay $1000 if it was instant.

I'd even go as high as $5k if they would reopen the registry.

Yes, I would definitely pay for expedited processing.

No, besides other reasons, I truly believe we'd all end up paying more for the same or longer approval times.

on that same token , could I pay less if I was willing to wait longer . I'd like to pay $50 and have my forms in 1 year vs $200 in 6 months . Then again the whole NFA sucks , I say just scrap it and don't start over .

Once again the tax is not for revenue raising. You could give them $1000 and they would just look at you like this




FDR hates you. Too bad polio didn't take him out completely.

I already pay $500 a year to have my forms go through quicker.

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