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AllserviceBilliards  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 5:56:18 PM
The one that takes the 9mm tracer rounds, is it a DD?
apricotshot  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 9:44:24 PM
Yes on the first part, not sure on the second. Probably not as the barrel is after all, a 9mm.
AllserviceBilliards  [Team Member]
10/5/2009 10:52:16 PM
Originally Posted By apricotshot:
Yes on the first part, not sure on the second. Probably not as the barrel is after all, a 9mm.


I guess the tube is not considered a bbl because it contains the other bbl?
apricotshot  [Team Member]
10/6/2009 7:47:14 AM
Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
Originally Posted By apricotshot:
Yes on the first part, not sure on the second. Probably not as the barrel is after all, a 9mm.


I guess the tube is not considered a bbl because it contains the other bbl?


You got it.
cosmos556  [Member]
10/16/2009 9:18:59 PM
I always thought those were a hoot. I'd love to get me some of that ammo for the 4th of July
natehamm86  [Member]
10/20/2009 5:02:33 AM
where would you get one?
Enigma102083  [Team Member]
10/20/2009 5:08:28 AM
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
I always thought those were a hoot. I'd love to get me some of that ammo for the 4th of July


I ripped through an uzi mag full of some once. It is pretty sweet.
1EGGHEAD  [Team Member]
11/5/2009 6:39:56 AM
Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
The one that takes the 9mm tracer rounds, is it a DD?


They are not standard 9mm rounds they are much longer and I have no idea where you can find them. On an unrealated note I had a buddy in the corps who was nearly killed by one in training, the longer round gives it much more power.
1EGGHEAD  [Team Member]
11/5/2009 7:04:18 AM
Originally Posted By Enigma102083:
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
I always thought those were a hoot. I'd love to get me some of that ammo for the 4th of July


I ripped through an uzi mag full of some once. It is pretty sweet.


I would really like to see that uzi due to the fact that they look more like 38sp ammo than 9mm.
Rich219  [Member]
11/21/2009 8:17:29 PM
Where can you get one of these trainers?
Enigma102083  [Team Member]
11/22/2009 12:58:59 AM
Originally Posted By 1EGGHEAD:
Originally Posted By Enigma102083:
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
I always thought those were a hoot. I'd love to get me some of that ammo for the 4th of July


I ripped through an uzi mag full of some once. It is pretty sweet.


I would really like to see that uzi due to the fact that they look more like 38sp ammo than 9mm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZj-45O_-Ts

There you go.
ARCo  [Member]
11/26/2009 10:05:58 PM
Originally Posted By natehamm86:
where would you get one?


Originally Posted By Rich219:
Where can you get one of these trainers?


It would definitely be a head turner at an indoor range.
I would like to know how much and where to find one with ammo.
slash61  [Team Member]
11/26/2009 11:56:10 PM
id love to have one too, they are a hoot to fire. they have pretty good range too, i think we could shoot them accurately out to 300 yds or more,
Enigma102083  [Team Member]
11/29/2009 12:05:14 AM
Originally Posted By Enigma102083:
Originally Posted By 1EGGHEAD:
Originally Posted By Enigma102083:
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
I always thought those were a hoot. I'd love to get me some of that ammo for the 4th of July


I ripped through an uzi mag full of some once. It is pretty sweet.


I would really like to see that uzi due to the fact that they look more like 38sp ammo than 9mm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZj-45O_-Ts

There you go.


This was just in case you didn't believe me.


From FM-23-25 Light Antiarmor Wapons Appendix B Section B-4

B-4. AT4 SUBCALIBER TRACER TRAINER
The M287 subcaliber tracer trainer (Figure B-5) uses the 9-mm M939 training practice-tracer (TP-T) cartridge. When loaded, this trainer simulates the AT4 in weight, balance, and operation. The velocity and trajectory of its ammunition match that of the AT4's HEAT cartridge, but the M287 produces less noise, backblast, and overpressure. The M287 subcaliber tracer trainer is used in place of the AT4 in training.


Figure B-5


Figure B-8
mike12345  [Member]
12/6/2009 8:54:03 PM
9mm tracer ammo is easy to get..... but for some reason I thought they were Incindary tracer or something.
cosmos556  [Member]
12/7/2009 10:28:49 AM
Originally Posted By mike12345:
9mm tracer ammo is easy to get..... but for some reason I thought they were Incindary tracer or something.


You have a lead on M939 9mm tracer ammo?? Do tell! That stuff has a nice long burnout range; it might even make distance shots with a 9mm carbine fun
1EGGHEAD  [Team Member]
12/11/2009 8:18:42 AM
That video appears to show tracer ammo.
DvlDog  [Team Member]
12/11/2009 10:58:37 AM
Originally Posted By Enigma102083:
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
I always thought those were a hoot. I'd love to get me some of that ammo for the 4th of July


I ripped through an uzi mag full of some once. It is pretty sweet.


nevermind.
staringback05  [Team Member]
12/19/2009 10:42:41 PM
so no one knows where to pick one up?
cosmos556  [Member]
12/21/2009 3:04:01 PM
Originally Posted By staringback05:
so no one knows where to pick one up?


I guess not. I, for one, am intrigued by the idea of owning one "just because I could." Seeing as they're still in service, we may have to wait another generation before the Army sells them... if they don't chop them up with bandaws and torches or give them to a third world nation for free with a stipulation they can never be re-imported

Edited for crappy spelling.