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low end 45acp subgun
10/2/2011 8:36:08 AM
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
Edit, bought a Sten MkII
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
Edit, bought a Sten MkII
10/2/2011 9:16:28 AM
greasegun?
10/2/2011 9:17:31 AM
There are stemple tube guns in .45. They are around $4k. I think I'd do a reising. Well, I know I'd do a MAC10 with a lage upper, but you said no to the MAC. The reising would be my 2nd choice.
10/2/2011 9:18:14 AM
Originally Posted By vengarr:
greasegun?
greasegun?
GG=Grease gun. And they aren't cheap. All have been over $15k that I've seen.
10/2/2011 11:29:01 AM
The Stemples are pretty crude, but also decent shooters. The trigger is heavy and stiff, almost like your MAC.
Reisings are much-maligned, but really decent guns for civilian use. Easy to shoot well, accurate, and pretty reliable if kept clean. The Ken Christie mags aren't cheap, but they are worth it! As an added bonus, the Reising is a C&R, so if you have your C&R license, you can have it transferred directly to you from out-of-state, saving a transfer.
Reisings are much-maligned, but really decent guns for civilian use. Easy to shoot well, accurate, and pretty reliable if kept clean. The Ken Christie mags aren't cheap, but they are worth it! As an added bonus, the Reising is a C&R, so if you have your C&R license, you can have it transferred directly to you from out-of-state, saving a transfer.
10/2/2011 8:04:00 PM
uzi
10/2/2011 9:43:28 PM
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
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That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
10/3/2011 3:38:42 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
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That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Oh ya,
$7k + $125 mags
the Stemple looks fun
10/3/2011 5:02:17 AM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
10/3/2011 9:21:18 AM
Its too bad that no one makes aftermarket parts for Spitfires. Its not a bad subgun if you do a few modifications to it.. IE: throw in mod'd GG bolt
10/3/2011 10:49:34 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Oh ya,
$7k + $125 mags
the Stemple looks fun
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Oh ya,
$7k + $125 mags
the Stemple looks fun
They are a fun sub gun. BRP makes some pretty cool kits for them, not that you need it, but still neat he is able to do that with them.
10/4/2011 8:09:29 AM
Originally Posted By JKH62:
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
Wow! Awesome work and a fascinating write-up.
10/4/2011 3:31:22 PM
Originally Posted By 1MAC:
Wow! Awesome work and a fascinating write-up.
Originally Posted By JKH62:
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
Wow! Awesome work and a fascinating write-up.
Thanks for the kudos!
Its a general collection of ideas and what can be done. I tossed it up there for others to hopefully view and continue to make improvements. I thought I was wrapping my project up with a working 9mm conversion ( I have my converted 72 shot Suomi drum mag to tweak). Now I am fooling around with building a .22 LR conversion. Once I get that running or not I will tear everything down and re-finish everything to pretty it up.
9mm Conversion / Mag dumps
http://fwd4.me/069r
10/8/2011 11:22:46 PM
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
10/12/2011 8:26:52 PM
Originally Posted By JKH62:
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
GG and Thompsons are $15k+
Spitfire and the other Thompson clones are cheap, but have no aftermarket support/spare parts,
Mac 10, well I have on in 9mm, so.
M50 Reising are cool but $100 mags suck. But this is the leader so far...
Is there a clone of the SW760 in 45 around?
What are some others?
If you want a 45 sub gun similar to the S&W 76 / MK 760 look for a Stemple 76/45. It will get you close to what you want. Its full auto only and somewhat basic like a Sten gun. If your handy it can be made into something much better and only limited by your imagination.
I did many mods to mine and still tweaking it and working on a .22 conversion.
fwd4.me/04uS
Damn, that is cool!
10/13/2011 9:00:00 AM
Originally Posted By I-give-up:
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
Pass. I hate the feel of a Sterling or even a STEN. Just seems awkward to me with the mag out the left side
10/15/2011 6:01:21 PM
Originally Posted By AN94NK:
Pass. I hate the feel of a Sterling or even a STEN. Just seems awkward to me with the mag out the left side
Originally Posted By I-give-up:
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
Pass. I hate the feel of a Sterling or even a STEN. Just seems awkward to me with the mag out the left side
I have a Sterling carbine (one of the new ones WiseLite makes), and I thought it was a blast to shoot. There was no perceptible twist due to the magazine, and that magazine system is recognized as being as mag-jam proof as they get. I am firmly set on buying a Sterling SMG (a Mk 4) as soon as I can.
I think there should have been more .45 SMGs around when the ban went into effect, but the 9mm craze was pretty strong then. Too bad.
10/19/2011 11:52:03 PM
Originally Posted By I-give-up:
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
There is also the PAWS ZX-7. Basically a .45acp Sterling that uses grease gun mags. I have never handled one nor have I even talked to anyone that has handled one. But it is another option for a "low end 45acp subgun".
I know a guy that has one. its suppresed and is a very good shooter .
10/20/2011 6:40:29 PM
The Sten (Stench gun) is actually a fun gun to fire. That in a 45 platform would be interesting.......
10/31/2011 7:20:45 PM
Uzi with a grease gun mag compatible lower...
10/31/2011 7:59:53 PM
Humm, did not know they made such a conversion.
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Uzi with a grease gun mag compatible lower...
Uzi with a grease gun mag compatible lower...
10/31/2011 8:16:50 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Humm, did not know they made such a conversion.
Humm, did not know they made such a conversion.
Originally Posted By Quake_Guy:
Uzi with a grease gun mag compatible lower...
Uzi with a grease gun mag compatible lower...
Yup. I can't remember the first person to come up with the idea, but then Chris Humphries get heavy into making them, and finally Vector made it a regular offering...
All are hybrids based on .45 ACP MAC-family lowers mated to Uzi lowers. The are as ergonomic as Macs (as in, not at all) but the ability to use cheap, reliable GG mags is a huge plus.
They use standard Uzi .45 bolts and barrels –– you just can skip the pricey factory Uzi .45 mags.
11/8/2011 9:47:40 AM
UZI - And no Promag has out 20 round 45 magazines for an econmical price and there is always the GG lower. A registered receiver will cost you more but let you run 9mm, 357 sig, 41AE, 40 S&W and 45 with the right parts. I have a registered Bolt that is in 45 so I run 45 and 40 S&W wiht that and I was able to get that for substantially less than a regiestered recvr.
DAn
DAn
11/15/2011 2:41:18 PM
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
11/15/2011 8:54:01 PM
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
11/16/2011 2:21:58 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
11/16/2011 9:20:35 AM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
11/16/2011 9:24:08 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
11/16/2011 5:14:52 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
I'll offering him $3500.
11/16/2011 10:20:23 PM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
I'll offering him $3500.
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
I'll offering him $3500.
Do not snipe me Bro...
11/16/2011 11:23:07 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Do not snipe me Bro...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
I'll offering him $3500.
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
Originally Posted By RedZ71:
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
i have an AR45... that takes greasegun mags.
http://www.dfwlp.org/~jhorne/pics/guns/slides/IMG_0476.jpg
Which is fun and all, but isn't really a "low end" .45.
it is if he will take $3k fir the set up.
Well, yeah. lol. But I highly doubt that is happening any time soon.
Well lets just say the offer is on the table...
I'll offering him $3500.
Do not snipe me Bro...
Sorry. Its hard to break that habit.
11/17/2011 4:36:59 PM
haha i was thinking it was low end. never mind then :P
11/22/2011 2:31:13 PM
My CNCGuns AR-45 is with 6" brl and HTG supressor is my favorite gun. Just Semi however 
12/1/2011 7:21:35 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
12/2/2011 8:28:48 AM
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
12/2/2011 10:28:36 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
12/2/2011 10:32:07 PM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
Well shit. Way to blow your budget!!!!
12/3/2011 1:33:23 AM
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well shit. Way to blow your budget!!!!
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
Well shit. Way to blow your budget!!!!
For the next ten years
12/3/2011 10:21:00 AM
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
For the next ten years
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Well shit. Way to blow your budget!!!!
Originally Posted By Chas8008:
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
Originally Posted By damcv62:
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
Originally Posted By damcv62:
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
Originally Posted By jjwheeler2:
uzi
uzi
That is going to be a good bit more then any of the options the OP is looking at.
I thought you could just buy a regular 9mm Uzi and convert it with a barrel, bolt and mag?
But the base uzi is like $6500-$8000. Where the OP was looking for a $3-$5k range gun.
and OP got a Sten and a Colt M16. So...
Well shit. Way to blow your budget!!!!
For the next ten years
Still good choices though. The stens are neat. I wouldn't mind one just because of the history behind them.
