Muzzle Break for Ar-50

Asking this question for a buddy of mine out here with an AR-50. Is there a better muzzle break then the standard MB on the AR-50? He was asking me the other day but I have no idea about 50s.

"Rumor" has it that the AR-50 muzzle brake is one of the best in the industry. Tell your buddy to harden the fuck up

I have to agree, the AR-50 is the Cadillac of .50's when it comes to felt recoil. If you're buddy can't handle it then he might consider selling it as .50's aren't for everyone. The AR-50's felt recoil is soft enough to actually get back on target and watch the round fly to the target when the conditions are right. Watching a .50 round fly through the air is one of things that you have to see to believe but it pushes enough air to see it fly all the way to the target.

+1 to 50_Shooter's response.

I don't want to turn this into a "My gun is better than your gun" thread but I am a believer on the AR50. I went through 75 rounds with zero pain and all it took was one shot from my son's Mosin to screw up my day. It's 100% true that Armalite did their homework on this weapon. Now... I can't say if it's the muzzlebreak, the shoulder pad, or the shear weight of the weapon that gives it such a wonderful recoil. It's most probably a balance of all three.

I heard that the A1 MB is better than the older style. Your buddy could add some weight to the gun somehow, maybe with removable lead plates in the rear stock or under the gun.Maybe try a mono pod on the rear stock and place some sand bags behind it.

On another note, I can't believe the respones I'm hearing from some of you guys, what if his buddy has a disablity or is a smaller frame guy? I'll say it again and again, gun guys are our worst enemy. For any gun owner to tell another to sell his gun especially a 50 is just wrong. Everyone should be tring to help someone is this situation to get him out shooting more and exposeing more people to the joy of shooting.

Lol sorry guys I should have elaborated a little more on the question.


It isn't the recoil he doesn't care for but the percussion out the sides. He mentioned how the AR didn't have much recoil and wouldn't mind more recoil to bring the percussion and the sound (if I remember right) down a bit.

As far as him harding the fuck up I don't think he has to worry much about that. Not to mention he is one of the best sharpshooters I've ever seen.

Simple and cheap fix, I'm glad you asked.................................take it off

I do imagine that would change the recoil impulse a bit... Probably also change the muzzle blast a bit.

I wonder why Armalite says it's dangerous to take it off and shoot? . I'm guessing shooting the AR50 w/out the brake would be downright unpleasant.... Perhaps when the docs reset your shoulder it would pleasant back up a bit.

Sounds like he wants a suppressor.

From what I understood was that he wanted to change how the gases are expelled out the sides. I know there was another thread where someone was saying spotting for the AR 50 was like getting slapped in the face.

I think this is a more of a curiosity question rather than selling it because he does not enjoy shooting it.

Different brakes deflect the blast in different ways. The armalite brake is one of the best for felt recoil but you get some of the blast in your face, still pleasant to shoot. The most pleasant to shoot for me is the State Arms fish gill type brake. Very little recoil and the blast is not directed towards your face at all. The new 3 port Barrett brake is the worst I have, because it has very little recoil but the blast is directed right into your face. I have a Vias brake that has holes drilled in it all the way around and in the front to direct the blast all around but not back. The problem with this brake is it has more felt recoil.

Ed

Excellent. Thanks for the post. He loves the recoil on the rifle and would even sacrifice some of that recoil for less gas in his face. I'll let him know about hte State Arms.

The problem is that there is no free lunch! With that said I best explain myself for some who dont fully understand what I am getting at. Either you have no brake and get the full recoil or you have a brake that does such an excellent job at reducing the recoil to lets say a 22LR (ok maybe not that good of a job). But you get a face full of blast. If we could redirect about say 90% of the gases straight back at you.
So, those who make brakes are left doing a balancing act, some in your face and some felt recoil reduction. And as someone has pointed out. To much recoil and you run the risk of shoulder damage or detached retinal. I'll take that bit of concussion and lite tap on the nose feeling over the above mentioned damages. And even if the gases are not directed at your face. Your still going to feel that shock wave of compressed air hit you. Shoot I noticed that sitting down as the shooter that the sound is lower than if I am standing behind the shooter. Its all about how sound waves spread out from the source. I agree to a point that a suppressor is best bet for lowering the force of the shock wave (sound wave). I am just not sure how effective they are for reduction of felt recoil. As to who makes the best brake for what appears to be this gents preference. I would think that almost any make of brake that would give less blast, but more felt recoil than the AR-50 brake. It is my understanding that the clam shell brake on the AR-50 is one of the best for recoil reduction, but higher blast effect to the shooter. Maybe something between it and what others consider to be the worse for recoil would be a better unit for your friend. I suggest a Ferret brake. And yet it might be only second to the AR-50 brake, might still need to step down a few more.

This is a still frame of some video my wife shot of me shooting the AR. My son was spotting for me useing the table next to me and when played in slow mo you can see me move back then the pressure wave smacks his face then his shirt, It cool. BTW the blueish tint is burnt gas'

Does anyone recall what the barrel thread size is on the AR50's ?

I may start tinkering with muzzle brake designs in the near future... and once my 01/03 is upgraded to 07/02, I will start experimenting with suppressors specific to the great .50bmg.

Be carefull. I was at the range when a guy brought his chopped AR up there with a homemade brake and it exploded. I wish i had a camera but it looked like a bannana. He had cut the barrel to 16" and welded the brake with what looked like plate steel together, but it didn't hold up. He got a cut on his head and no one else was close to him at the time. Just be carefull.

I appreciate the heads-up.

Suffice to say... I've fab'd quite a number of very effective muzzlebrakes over the years. They are generally way overbuilt for the intended application.

My main interest is in building a .50 cal suppressor that is effective AND affordable to the average .50 buyer. If/when I come up with something... I will certainly see about mass-producing it.

I'd like to try one on my LAR.

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