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Anyone at your range say "aw crap, he brought THAT"?
6/4/2011 2:21:03 AM
I've occasionally run into that reaction, even if I snag the bench on the far end. Come on guys, the major blast is right next to me. A bench farther away and you just have to deal with the sound. Dammit, it's not like I've got one of those AR50 brakes on my gun (mine doesn't ever set off car alarms). OTOH, there usually isn't a lack of volunteers to shoot it either. Go figure. Talk about a double standard.
6/4/2011 8:50:09 AM
I think that I have had that reaction once. And it was from some guys about 5 benches away. I get a kick out of the cars passing behind my bench that are coming from the pistol range on the other side of a berm. They just stare as they slowly roll by. I have giving away about 20 to 25 free shots. Figure that this is good will and might help out one day if someone tries to make it hard for me to shoot at our club. Heck, one was a young lady and on the thin side. She was about 18 or so. Right after she shot it, she turned around to her dad and said we need to get one of these with a big smile.
I presume you have given away a few free shots? Then you know what I know. This is good to help with the good will of others.
I presume you have given away a few free shots? Then you know what I know. This is good to help with the good will of others.
6/4/2011 9:47:05 AM
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
6/4/2011 12:09:04 PM
Originally Posted By bronk1:
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
You Charge?
6/4/2011 1:15:30 PM
Originally Posted By subwofer2:
You Charge?
Originally Posted By bronk1:
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
You Charge?
Yeah... you should just let people shoot your $5-10k investment in gun/reloading equipment/ammo for free. And as many rounds as they want.
6/4/2011 4:12:46 PM
I dont know about the other shooter, but who said anything about more than one shot for free? I limit to one shot and most of the time, it is I who ask if they want to take a shot. Only have had a couple ask me if they could shoot a shot.
The big 50 can make more enemies quickly than friends. I figure a few freebies to help make friends. Friends that might help me keep the club friendly towards 50s. There are a good number of clubs who will not let a 50 BMG on their range. Call it a bribe of sorts. But if that is what it will cost me about 30 to 45 bucks a year for good will, then I will gladly pay that. If my range shuts down the use of 50 BMG. Then I might have to spend that in just gasoline to get somewhere where I can shoot. And the bathrooms and other amenities.
BTW I roll my own for about $3.25 and this is using an Amax to top it off. If money is so tight, maybe you should start reloading.
The big 50 can make more enemies quickly than friends. I figure a few freebies to help make friends. Friends that might help me keep the club friendly towards 50s. There are a good number of clubs who will not let a 50 BMG on their range. Call it a bribe of sorts. But if that is what it will cost me about 30 to 45 bucks a year for good will, then I will gladly pay that. If my range shuts down the use of 50 BMG. Then I might have to spend that in just gasoline to get somewhere where I can shoot. And the bathrooms and other amenities.
BTW I roll my own for about $3.25 and this is using an Amax to top it off. If money is so tight, maybe you should start reloading.
6/4/2011 5:45:06 PM
I've let a lot of people shoot mine for free. Usually friends, relatives, or friends of friends. I let them keep the piece of brass they popped their 50 cal cherry with too as a souvenir so they can tell their friends "I shot that."
6/4/2011 6:41:18 PM
Originally Posted By chargerkid5:
I've let a lot of people shoot mine for free. Usually friends, relatives, or friends of friends. I let them keep the piece of brass they popped their 50 cal cherry with too as a souvenir so they can tell their friends "I shot that."
I've let a lot of people shoot mine for free. Usually friends, relatives, or friends of friends. I let them keep the piece of brass they popped their 50 cal cherry with too as a souvenir so they can tell their friends "I shot that."
Friends I let take one shot of commercial ammo free. Other folks I let them shoot mine with commercial ammo they provide or $5/shot of commercial ammo I provide. The caveat is that I don't shoot on a public range, I have my own range or shoot at other private ranges. If I had to shoot at a public range where being a goodwill ambassador were important I'd give away the occasional free shot too.
6/4/2011 7:17:05 PM
Well the club I belong to aint public. And Now the brass is another thing all together. That brass give away can add up quickly. I suppose that is one thing nice about the club I belong to. I have admired other peoples weapons and they have let me shoot a clip and I have done the same for others. Now as I have said, the 50 BMG is a one shot item. I dont have many different guns but if someone wants to shoot my 9MM or my S&W Mod 19 in 357 or a couple others. Hell I will load it up and let them have at it.
I suppose that there are just a few different kind of shooters. I belong to that group that seem to have as much fun shooting as letting someone shoot a few rounds of my stuff. I esp. enjoyed the day that the young lady shot my 50 and turned around with the big grin on her face and told her dad that they needed to get one also. Kind of neat to know you got a gun that someone else would like to have too. Somethings are just priceless. Wish you could understand where I am coming from. And this is a guy whos yearly house hold income is like less than 100K.
I suppose that there are just a few different kind of shooters. I belong to that group that seem to have as much fun shooting as letting someone shoot a few rounds of my stuff. I esp. enjoyed the day that the young lady shot my 50 and turned around with the big grin on her face and told her dad that they needed to get one also. Kind of neat to know you got a gun that someone else would like to have too. Somethings are just priceless. Wish you could understand where I am coming from. And this is a guy whos yearly house hold income is like less than 100K.
6/4/2011 7:22:47 PM
Originally Posted By subwofer2:
You Charge?
Originally Posted By bronk1:
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
You Charge?
I never charge a first timer. It's hard to have fun if you're thinking about the cost. Want to squeeze off a round or two? Sure.. no problem. Most don't want to fire more than 1 round anyway. I reload for ~$1 a round, so I can afford it.
6/4/2011 10:40:30 PM
When I have lugged out the big bore from the car to the bench, it is strange how many people stop what they are doing and gawk. Funny how such a noisy environment suddenly goes quiet. It is almost like experiencing that old commercial from years back that states " when EF Hutton speaks, people listen".
I try to take a bench on the end of the line. I am considerate and let the other person shoot whatever they have and then shoot mine. I know what the side blast is like & feel for the individuals near me. I have been near others shooting loud guns before. I hate to flinch ( especially when I am going for grouping ) when their guns are going off. A .50 is not your average range weapon.
Have had a few admirers lookin` over my piece more than once. I can tell by the look in their eyes when they are really interested. I will encourage them to try it out!
When I see the look on their face after they have fired it, I always ask if they want to pop off another round or two. I let them keep one piece of brass as a souvenir. I still have the brass from my first experience with a .50. I still smile when I see it sitting on my desk.
I never charge anyone to shoot my gun. That is me. I don`t know how many times at the range I have been asked if I want to shoot someone else's gun. They never charged me to do it. God bless them all. I am returning the favor to so many others that did a favor for me. I know the .50 isn`t cheap to shoot. I don`t make a lot of money. If I had an M2HB, yes. I would probably charge to shoot the gun. I don`t have one so I don`t have to worry. My payback at the end of a range day is that I made someone smile while trying something new & have more fun while I was there. That is priceless.
I try to take a bench on the end of the line. I am considerate and let the other person shoot whatever they have and then shoot mine. I know what the side blast is like & feel for the individuals near me. I have been near others shooting loud guns before. I hate to flinch ( especially when I am going for grouping ) when their guns are going off. A .50 is not your average range weapon.
Have had a few admirers lookin` over my piece more than once. I can tell by the look in their eyes when they are really interested. I will encourage them to try it out!
When I see the look on their face after they have fired it, I always ask if they want to pop off another round or two. I let them keep one piece of brass as a souvenir. I still have the brass from my first experience with a .50. I still smile when I see it sitting on my desk.
I never charge anyone to shoot my gun. That is me. I don`t know how many times at the range I have been asked if I want to shoot someone else's gun. They never charged me to do it. God bless them all. I am returning the favor to so many others that did a favor for me. I know the .50 isn`t cheap to shoot. I don`t make a lot of money. If I had an M2HB, yes. I would probably charge to shoot the gun. I don`t have one so I don`t have to worry. My payback at the end of a range day is that I made someone smile while trying something new & have more fun while I was there. That is priceless.
6/4/2011 10:49:35 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
I never charge a first timer. It's hard to have fun if you're thinking about the cost. Want to squeeze off a round or two? Sure.. no problem. Most don't want to fire more than 1 round anyway. I reload for ~$1 a round, so I can afford it.
Originally Posted By subwofer2:
You Charge?
Originally Posted By bronk1:
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
5.00 a pop is what I charge. Wear and tear, ammo costs, etc. Most people are fine with it, and hand me a 20 to take a few shots with it.
You Charge?
I never charge a first timer. It's hard to have fun if you're thinking about the cost. Want to squeeze off a round or two? Sure.. no problem. Most don't want to fire more than 1 round anyway. I reload for ~$1 a round, so I can afford it.
A buck a round??? I wish I could get it down to that. I suppose that you are getting your projos that are what ball? Last price I saw for ball projos was like 85 cents per. Then a 220 gr powder has to be surplus for what 75 buck for 8lb So that would work out to about 28.4 cents. And CCI-35 was last that I know of, 500 for $115.00. So that comes to about 23 cents each. So, the cheapest I could load for minus the brass is .85 + .28 + 23 = 1.36. I would love to find out who your supplier is. Although I have to use either a copper clad lead bullet like the AMax. Or a brass solid that is just a few cents cheaper (will be getting some soon as my AMax run out). But maybe your source for primers or powder is cheaper. BTW range rules are no steel core or tracer compound. Which includes any incidery also.
6/4/2011 10:51:49 PM
I've got the "oh no not a 50" look from a few shooters at the range. I always let everyone up or down the range know I'm only going to shoot a few rounds. I offer anyone a chance to shoot a round or two if they are really interested. All my own loads with surplus components. I get a kick out of the 50 cal smiles of the ones that shoot my rifle. The most pleased ever I was was when an older than me gentleman started a conversation about the 50BMG. Turns out he was a gunner in a bomber during WWII and said he'd not shot a 50 in all the years since the war. I offered him all the shots he wanted and he did shoot a couple rounds thru my Barrett M99. Even then he wanted to pay me for shooting it and of course I wouldn't let him explaining that his sacrifice was the reason we could shoot and own weapons. He still insisted that I at least let him buy me a coke which I agreed plus I gave him one of his fired cases. That was my most gratifying memory talking to the WWII Vet about his experiences and him shooting my rifle. I actually think I enjoy watching others shoot my rifle than me shooting it and remembering my 1st and 2nd shot thru a couple of friends rifles before I got my 50.
You do have to be careful with a 50 at the range. Some are trying to shoot for groups and the loud noise will distract them and I understand why. I personally would rather be close to a 50 shooter than someone a bench or 3 over throwing AK brass all around me and others.
You do have to be careful with a 50 at the range. Some are trying to shoot for groups and the loud noise will distract them and I understand why. I personally would rather be close to a 50 shooter than someone a bench or 3 over throwing AK brass all around me and others.
6/4/2011 10:56:07 PM
Originally Posted By Xringlover:
When I have lugged out the big bore from the car to the bench, it is strange how many people stop what they are doing and gawk. Funny how such a noisy environment suddenly goes quiet. It is almost like experiencing that old commercial from years back that states " when EF Hutton speaks, people listen".
I try to take a bench on the end of the line. I am considerate and let the other person shoot whatever they have and then shoot mine. I know what the side blast is like & feel for the individuals near me. I have been near others shooting loud guns before. I hate to flinch ( especially when I am going for grouping ) when their guns are going off. A .50 is not your average range weapon.
Have had a few admirers lookin` over my piece more than once. I can tell by the look in their eyes when they are really interested. I will encourage them to try it out! When I see the look on their face after they have fired it, I always ask if they want to pop off another round or two. I let them keep one piece of brass as a souvenir. I still have the brass from my first experience with a .50. I still smile when I see it sitting on my desk.
I never charge anyone to shoot my gun. That is me. I don`t know how many times at the range I have been asked if I want to shoot someone else's gun. They never charged me to do it. God bless them all. I am returning the favor to so many others that did a favor for me. I know the .50 isn`t cheap to shoot. I don`t make a lot of money. If I had an M2HB, yes. I would probably charge to shoot the gun. I don`t have one so I don`t have to worry. My payback at the end of a range day is that I made someone smile while trying something new & have more fun while I was there. That is priceless.
When I have lugged out the big bore from the car to the bench, it is strange how many people stop what they are doing and gawk. Funny how such a noisy environment suddenly goes quiet. It is almost like experiencing that old commercial from years back that states " when EF Hutton speaks, people listen".
I try to take a bench on the end of the line. I am considerate and let the other person shoot whatever they have and then shoot mine. I know what the side blast is like & feel for the individuals near me. I have been near others shooting loud guns before. I hate to flinch ( especially when I am going for grouping ) when their guns are going off. A .50 is not your average range weapon.
Have had a few admirers lookin` over my piece more than once. I can tell by the look in their eyes when they are really interested. I will encourage them to try it out!
When I see the look on their face after they have fired it, I always ask if they want to pop off another round or two. I let them keep one piece of brass as a souvenir. I still have the brass from my first experience with a .50. I still smile when I see it sitting on my desk.
I never charge anyone to shoot my gun. That is me. I don`t know how many times at the range I have been asked if I want to shoot someone else's gun. They never charged me to do it. God bless them all. I am returning the favor to so many others that did a favor for me. I know the .50 isn`t cheap to shoot. I don`t make a lot of money. If I had an M2HB, yes. I would probably charge to shoot the gun. I don`t have one so I don`t have to worry. My payback at the end of a range day is that I made someone smile while trying something new & have more fun while I was there. That is priceless.
Love that remark about EF Hutton. Give this gent a cigar. Said what I was trying to say, just so much better. You like commercials, well think about that one where someone sees someone else do a good deed, they in turn do a good deed that was seen by a 3rd person and then they go and do a good deed. I think the term "play it forward" says it all.
6/4/2011 11:52:21 PM
Originally Posted By rg1:
I've got the "oh no not a 50" look from a few shooters at the range. I always let everyone up or down the range know I'm only going to shoot a few rounds. I offer anyone a chance to shoot a round or two if they are really interested. All my own loads with surplus components. I get a kick out of the 50 cal smiles of the ones that shoot my rifle. The most pleased ever I was was when an older than me gentleman started a conversation about the 50BMG. Turns out he was a gunner in a bomber during WWII and said he'd not shot a 50 in all the years since the war. I offered him all the shots he wanted and he did shoot a couple rounds thru my Barrett M99. Even then he wanted to pay me for shooting it and of course I wouldn't let him explaining that his sacrifice was the reason we could shoot and own weapons. He still insisted that I at least let him buy me a coke which I agreed plus I gave him one of his fired cases. That was my most gratifying memory talking to the WWII Vet about his experiences and him shooting my rifle. I actually think I enjoy watching others shoot my rifle than me shooting it and remembering my 1st and 2nd shot thru a couple of friends rifles before I got my 50.
You do have to be careful with a 50 at the range. Some are trying to shoot for groups and the loud noise will distract them and I understand why. I personally would rather be close to a 50 shooter than someone a bench or 3 over throwing AK brass all around me and others.
I've got the "oh no not a 50" look from a few shooters at the range. I always let everyone up or down the range know I'm only going to shoot a few rounds. I offer anyone a chance to shoot a round or two if they are really interested. All my own loads with surplus components. I get a kick out of the 50 cal smiles of the ones that shoot my rifle. The most pleased ever I was was when an older than me gentleman started a conversation about the 50BMG. Turns out he was a gunner in a bomber during WWII and said he'd not shot a 50 in all the years since the war. I offered him all the shots he wanted and he did shoot a couple rounds thru my Barrett M99. Even then he wanted to pay me for shooting it and of course I wouldn't let him explaining that his sacrifice was the reason we could shoot and own weapons. He still insisted that I at least let him buy me a coke which I agreed plus I gave him one of his fired cases. That was my most gratifying memory talking to the WWII Vet about his experiences and him shooting my rifle. I actually think I enjoy watching others shoot my rifle than me shooting it and remembering my 1st and 2nd shot thru a couple of friends rifles before I got my 50.
You do have to be careful with a 50 at the range. Some are trying to shoot for groups and the loud noise will distract them and I understand why. I personally would rather be close to a 50 shooter than someone a bench or 3 over throwing AK brass all around me and others.
The last time I was out with the .50, a fellow who had fought in Vietnam was shooting nearby. I saw that look in his eyes that I had mentioned earlier. Nice guy to talk with. He had a little history to speak about. I could have sat and listened to him all afternoon. I told him he was more than welcome to shoot my .50. Truth be known, I would have let him shoot all of the ammo he wanted. I am a thin guy but this gentleman was probably 2 times my size or so. He was actually afraid to shoot the gun. Told him that "if the weapon would have hurt me on my first trip out, I would have sold it already. Try this thing out & see what you think!" After the first round, I knew he was hooked!
I will never forget the smile on his face!
It`s the little things in life that mean the most.
6/4/2011 11:53:38 PM
Originally Posted By Max-Paul:
A buck a round??? I wish I could get it down to that. I suppose that you are getting your projos that are what ball? Last price I saw for ball projos was like 85 cents per. Then a 220 gr powder has to be surplus for what 75 buck for 8lb So that would work out to about 28.4 cents. And CCI-35 was last that I know of, 500 for $115.00. So that comes to about 23 cents each. So, the cheapest I could load for minus the brass is .85 + .28 + 23 = 1.36. I would love to find out who your supplier is. Although I have to use either a copper clad lead bullet like the AMax. Or a brass solid that is just a few cents cheaper (will be getting some soon as my AMax run out). But maybe your source for primers or powder is cheaper. BTW range rules are no steel core or tracer compound. Which includes any incidery also.
A buck a round??? I wish I could get it down to that. I suppose that you are getting your projos that are what ball? Last price I saw for ball projos was like 85 cents per. Then a 220 gr powder has to be surplus for what 75 buck for 8lb So that would work out to about 28.4 cents. And CCI-35 was last that I know of, 500 for $115.00. So that comes to about 23 cents each. So, the cheapest I could load for minus the brass is .85 + .28 + 23 = 1.36. I would love to find out who your supplier is. Although I have to use either a copper clad lead bullet like the AMax. Or a brass solid that is just a few cents cheaper (will be getting some soon as my AMax run out). But maybe your source for primers or powder is cheaper. BTW range rules are no steel core or tracer compound. Which includes any incidery also.
I purchased most of my supplies around 2005-2006. .50 cal can full of ball (lead core M33) projos...several 8 pound containers of pulldown powder....etc.
It's not as cheap as it used to be, that's for sure. im just glad I stocked up when I did.
6/4/2011 11:54:26 PM
I guess that I’m a real “stick in the mud”, because I intend to flat out decline to let anyone try out my .50 unless it’s a personal friend that I’ve known for a long time. It also comes down to an issue of “money” for me as well – but not a price-per-shot kind of deal. No my refusal to let others try my .50 stems from potential legal liability should anything go wrong. Given that my rifle is an “upper” to pin onto an AR-15, I could see a law firm really wanting to bite down on how I “negligently fire a great-big bullets out of a rifle designed to fire a tiny little bullets”, (then the lawyer holds up a .223 and a .50 BMG so the jury can see just how much I’m risking to do such a thing…
A jury (in this liberal state) would eat that up like fat co-workers on a plate of cupcakes in the break room. Now that I’m retired, becoming homeless seems more like a major drag than ever.
A jury (in this liberal state) would eat that up like fat co-workers on a plate of cupcakes in the break room. Now that I’m retired, becoming homeless seems more like a major drag than ever.
6/5/2011 12:03:02 AM
Only relatives or friends shoot mine. RO said its better from now on if I don't sense had an incident with a shooter. The guy was threating to sue me afterwards.
I gave him instructions and then when I didn't ntice he took his ear plugs out and at the last second put his eye almost on the scope before firing. He didn't sit but stood at the end of the bench and fired and started yelling someone grab the gun. I did and asked what was wrong and he replied I can hear you talking but can't make out the words
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I gave him instructions and then when I didn't ntice he took his ear plugs out and at the last second put his eye almost on the scope before firing. He didn't sit but stood at the end of the bench and fired and started yelling someone grab the gun. I did and asked what was wrong and he replied I can hear you talking but can't make out the words
.6/5/2011 8:46:20 AM
Originally Posted By Tommy2399:
Only relatives or friends shoot mine. RO said its better from now on if I don't sense had an incident with a shooter. The guy was threating to sue me afterwards.
I gave him instructions and then when I didn't ntice he took his ear plugs out and at the last second put his eye almost on the scope before firing. He didn't sit but stood at the end of the bench and fired and started yelling someone grab the gun. I did and asked what was wrong and he replied I can hear you talking but can't make out the words.
Only relatives or friends shoot mine. RO said its better from now on if I don't sense had an incident with a shooter. The guy was threating to sue me afterwards.
I gave him instructions and then when I didn't ntice he took his ear plugs out and at the last second put his eye almost on the scope before firing. He didn't sit but stood at the end of the bench and fired and started yelling someone grab the gun. I did and asked what was wrong and he replied I can hear you talking but can't make out the words
.When someone else is shooting my .50 I am standing very close to them and am watching them carefully.
6/5/2011 10:29:49 AM
I alway offer people that really seem interested a round through my rifle. Ammo is under $2 a pop and that's an inexpensive way of bringing the shooting community over to our side. I've never had anyone get up from the bench without a big smile and some form of "I gotta get me one of those" coming from their lips.
6/5/2011 1:34:48 PM
I always let interested people at the range try out my LAR. At about $1 per round on the reloads, it is cheap. I am never shy about admiring someone else's fiream and am invited to try them out at times, so I return the favor.
I do not like the muzzle blast either and I have put over 1000 rounds through mine. I built a box from three foam filled steel doors that sits on the bench and contains the muzzle blast. It makes it much nicer for those on the sides.
Ranb
I do not like the muzzle blast either and I have put over 1000 rounds through mine. I built a box from three foam filled steel doors that sits on the bench and contains the muzzle blast. It makes it much nicer for those on the sides.
Ranb
6/5/2011 2:29:00 PM
Originally Posted By Ranb:
I built a box from three foam filled steel doors that sits on the bench and contains the muzzle blast. It makes it much nicer for those on the sides.
I built a box from three foam filled steel doors that sits on the bench and contains the muzzle blast. It makes it much nicer for those on the sides.
Pics/specs/cost?
6/5/2011 6:11:56 PM
Originally Posted By NAM:
I purchased most of my supplies around 2005-2006. .50 cal can full of ball (lead core M33) projos...several 8 pound containers of pulldown powder....etc.
It's not as cheap as it used to be, that's for sure. im just glad I stocked up when I did.
I purchased most of my supplies around 2005-2006. .50 cal can full of ball (lead core M33) projos...several 8 pound containers of pulldown powder....etc.
It's not as cheap as it used to be, that's for sure. im just glad I stocked up when I did.
Nam,
Ok, got to ask, cause I had found out the hard way that M33 ball still has a mild steel insert with lead in a copper jacket. Would you take a magnet and see if there is some attraction to the bullet. Ok, lets see that is before I got into the 50 BMG back in 2005. I got in back in 08 I think it was, maybe the year before. I think the M33 was like 65 cents back then.
Snot Rocket, Oh I see now, Cali is your home state. Ya, that would make me afraid to let anyone shoot my stuff. Home of the "I am going to sue your pants off".
6/5/2011 6:23:56 PM
Originally Posted By Max-Paul:
Nam,
Ok, got to ask, cause I had found out the hard way that M33 ball still has a mild steel insert with lead in a copper jacket. Would you take a magnet and see if there is some attraction to the bullet. Ok, lets see that is before I got into the 50 BMG back in 2005. I got in back in 08 I think it was, maybe the year before. I think the M33 was like 65 cents back then.
Nam,
Ok, got to ask, cause I had found out the hard way that M33 ball still has a mild steel insert with lead in a copper jacket. Would you take a magnet and see if there is some attraction to the bullet. Ok, lets see that is before I got into the 50 BMG back in 2005. I got in back in 08 I think it was, maybe the year before. I think the M33 was like 65 cents back then.
Sure thing. Getting ready to run in to town, but when I get back, I'll check. They were purchased from Hi Tech Ammo. Dan and Steve are good shits. You can currently get them for .42 a piece.
"500 - .50 Cal M33 - Ball - FMJBT - 650 gr. USGI (very slight pullmarks) $210.00"
I was stationed at Scott AFB from 2000-2004. Their warehouse was a half hour drive.
6/5/2011 6:28:21 PM
Originally Posted By Max-Paul:
Nam,
Ok, got to ask, cause I had found out the hard way that M33 ball still has a mild steel insert with lead in a copper jacket. Would you take a magnet and see if there is some attraction to the bullet.
Nam,
Ok, got to ask, cause I had found out the hard way that M33 ball still has a mild steel insert with lead in a copper jacket. Would you take a magnet and see if there is some attraction to the bullet.
I can answer that for you as I have M33 surplus as well as others. Essentially ALL military .50 BMG ammo will allow a magnet to attract it. The problem comes for me with other calibers as some range-officer types don't understand that just because a bullet is attracted to a magnet doesn't mean that it's "armor-piercing". For my .50 BMG - I have to pack that up and shoot in NV as I can't legally pin my .50 upper onto a lower in CA. I store my .50 upper with padlocks through the pin-holes to make it more difficult for someone to attempt to frame me for an illegal AW by trying to build it while in this fu'd state.
6/5/2011 9:00:03 PM
I roll my own and most of the time I'm loading with 647 grain API bullets that I get for about .30 cents each. I let just about anyone shoot my 50 as long as I feel they are qualified to hit the berm and not screw up and hurt themsleves or anyone else. Most of the time it's at my house since I don't have to bother with a public range. I do however figure it's good business to get more folks interested in shooting the 50 BMG. That's how I got started when I co-worker of my wife brought his Barrett over to our place to shoot. I ended up catching the 50 bug and still enjoy shooting them.
6/5/2011 10:47:22 PM
Snot-Rocket,
I agree just cause a magnet is attracted to a bullet dose not make it a A.P. But at my club range it does not matter if it is A.P. or ball. Seems that our current club prez and range care taker has attended the NRA range class and the mild steel core can skip just as easy as the A.P. core can. Thus any steel core bullet is verboten at our club range. Suppose I am just trying to educate people to the fact that the M33 ball has a mild steel core. But this is not an A.P. but still harder than a lead core.
BTW if I go right after work to Hi-Tech. The drive is about 8 min or 13 miles down I-70. But I live about 52 miles west from work in the opposite direction. So, making a trip after work, works out real good for me. I bought some of my first ball and primers from them, for my 50.
I agree just cause a magnet is attracted to a bullet dose not make it a A.P. But at my club range it does not matter if it is A.P. or ball. Seems that our current club prez and range care taker has attended the NRA range class and the mild steel core can skip just as easy as the A.P. core can. Thus any steel core bullet is verboten at our club range. Suppose I am just trying to educate people to the fact that the M33 ball has a mild steel core. But this is not an A.P. but still harder than a lead core.
BTW if I go right after work to Hi-Tech. The drive is about 8 min or 13 miles down I-70. But I live about 52 miles west from work in the opposite direction. So, making a trip after work, works out real good for me. I bought some of my first ball and primers from them, for my 50.
6/6/2011 7:56:42 AM
All the time, lol
Usually I'll let people fire a shot or two for free, sometimes more (in the case of one of the kids at the MI Range Day) But if somebody asks how much the ammo is, or offers to pay, it's usually 5 bucks a shot. Normally, though, until they offer to pay, it's free.
Usually I'll let people fire a shot or two for free, sometimes more (in the case of one of the kids at the MI Range Day) But if somebody asks how much the ammo is, or offers to pay, it's usually 5 bucks a shot. Normally, though, until they offer to pay, it's free.
6/6/2011 12:18:54 PM
Widners has M33 for $2.25-2.50/rd..
I don't charge anyone to shoot my guns once. More than that, they bring their own or pay my cost.
I don't charge anyone to shoot my guns once. More than that, they bring their own or pay my cost.
6/7/2011 12:19:10 PM
A friend has a Ferret upper & lives up in MD.
As a result of him shooting it there, the club's leadership banned 50s completely. Shame too - there is a 300 yard range on site.
As a result of him shooting it there, the club's leadership banned 50s completely. Shame too - there is a 300 yard range on site.
6/7/2011 7:43:49 PM
Originally Posted By CBR900:
A friend has a Ferret upper & lives up in MD.
As a result of him shooting it there, the club's leadership banned 50s completely. Shame too - there is a 300 yard range on site.
A friend has a Ferret upper & lives up in MD.
As a result of him shooting it there, the club's leadership banned 50s completely. Shame too - there is a 300 yard range on site.
Ya, it is a shame when a club bans a rifle based on its caliber/shell. Do you happen to know what their problem was? Did the shooter shoot up something being an ass? Or use something like a tracer and start a fire? Or did some wimp complain about the blast? Not to be mistaken that I think it is ok to be rude with the blast. But if I set up at least 3 benches from anyone else and try to shoot while they are in between shots. Then I dont think I am being an ass with my rifle.
6/7/2011 8:02:38 PM
I live on a meager income and still let people shoot the .50. I'll load it and put it on safe, then make sure it is being handled correctly. The range officers don't appreciate it too much. They always stick me wherever there are several clear benches on both sides. The friends can keep the brass, and the strangers just get to enjoy that special moment.
6/7/2011 8:12:35 PM
Originally Posted By Max-Paul:
Ya, it is a shame when a club bans a rifle based on its caliber/shell. Do you happen to know what their problem was? Did the shooter shoot up something being an ass? Or use something like a tracer and start a fire? Or did some wimp complain about the blast? Not to be mistaken that I think it is ok to be rude with the blast. But if I set up at least 3 benches from anyone else and try to shoot while they are in between shots. Then I dont think I am being an ass with my rifle.
Originally Posted By CBR900:
A friend has a Ferret upper & lives up in MD.
As a result of him shooting it there, the club's leadership banned 50s completely. Shame too - there is a 300 yard range on site.
A friend has a Ferret upper & lives up in MD.
As a result of him shooting it there, the club's leadership banned 50s completely. Shame too - there is a 300 yard range on site.
Ya, it is a shame when a club bans a rifle based on its caliber/shell. Do you happen to know what their problem was? Did the shooter shoot up something being an ass? Or use something like a tracer and start a fire? Or did some wimp complain about the blast? Not to be mistaken that I think it is ok to be rude with the blast. But if I set up at least 3 benches from anyone else and try to shoot while they are in between shots. Then I dont think I am being an ass with my rifle.
I live near a 1000 yard range. It would be absolutely AWESOME to be able to fire a few rounds on it! You used to be able to. I say used to. Was even present in the pit one day when a fellow on a bench was shooting one. Made a big hole in the paper target attached to the target pop up frame. Stirred up a little dirt & dust in the hillside behind the impact point. That was about it. Now, 50`s are banned from the range. I spoke to the guy who is the club prez there. He is an alright guy to talk to. He told me that the big guns like that just tore up too much stuff. I don`t know about that statement he made. A hole in the ground is a hole. It isn`t like someone is firing off artillery shells there. He didn`t make any remarks about tracer or anything else. I believe there was something else going on behind the scenes to pressure him into making the decision for the ban. Wish I knew what he had going on in his mind at the time.
