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nicholasgentges  [Member]
3/13/2012 10:25:45 PM
Are strider folders worth the money it would be a edc and I work in the construction industry as a glazier I am looking into the smf series.
dpmmn  [Life Member]
3/13/2012 10:30:23 PM
I carry a SMF daily, I change off between a CC and a new Aluminum scaled SMF both are Tanto's

I work in a factory do a lot of project / prototype work

I would be lost without it

TDunn  [Team Member]
3/13/2012 10:40:03 PM
They are built like the proverbial brick sh*thouse, so work well as an EDC. As to the value, that is a purely personal question in my view.
nicholasgentges  [Member]
3/13/2012 10:51:13 PM
Ok cool that is what I am looking for something strong that will hold up to abuse about to start saving my pennies about 40,000 of them.
sleevefullofaces  [Team Member]
3/13/2012 11:03:11 PM
Love my SMF.
TheJeanyus  [Member]
3/14/2012 8:16:44 AM
I carry a SMF every day as well. Once you get used to it, everything else feels like a toy.
4Truck  [Member]
3/14/2012 8:26:22 AM
Originally Posted By TheJeanyus:
I carry a SMF every day as well. Once you get used to it, everything else feels like a toy.



This. I was skeptical, but it is a handful of badass.
CREPR  [Team Member]
3/14/2012 11:29:03 AM
I have aspirations of owning one, but the closest I've been is just handling them. I must say, I don't think there's a sturdier, better built knife capable of the hard use that the Striders are made for. Yea, they're expensive, but it is afterall a custom made knife and everything else in comparison looks/feels like child's play. I'm not ripping on other brands, as I own a slew of quality knives that are plenty capable of EDC for my purpose. But, if I had a genuine "hard-use" EDC requirement, IMO there would be no substitute for a Strider.
castiel  [Team Member]
3/14/2012 12:35:32 PM
I can't imagine spending $400 on something to open boxes when a $50 knife works just as well. I imagine there are much better tools than a pocket knife to use for cuttiing glass too ...

If I needed something my life depends on it wouldn't be a knife it'd be a gun and even that is less than $400


olds442tyguy  [Member]
3/14/2012 1:08:25 PM
I like their designs but can't justify the price. Look into the owner's criminal record and actual military back ground. I'm not trying to open a can of worms but I could never bring myself to put money into the bank account of someone like Mickey Ray Burger's (Mick Strider).
devinsdad  [Member]
3/14/2012 1:12:52 PM
And if anyone else but Mick Strider made them I might think about it. They might be the cats ass when it comes to knives, but as soon as he touched them they'll never see a cent of my money. Like the above poster, cutting boxes in a warehouse...use a replaceable blade knife, showing off to your coworkers...whip out your Strider. Look into the man and deciede for yourself. There is a lot of crazed fanboys who look past anything to be part of the "club", my morals are worth more.
4Truck  [Member]
3/14/2012 3:25:30 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
I can't imagine spending $400 on something to open boxes when a $50 knife works just as well. I imagine there are much better tools than a pocket knife to use for cuttiing glass too ...

If I needed something my life depends on it wouldn't be a knife it'd be a gun and even that is less than $400




Not this shit again...

So you only shoot Ravens and Lorcins then? Drive a Yugo? Live in a trailer?

Sure, you could get by with a $50 pocket knfe, but whats the fun in that. Some people like nice things if for no other reason than to own them.

castiel  [Team Member]
3/14/2012 3:27:23 PM
Originally Posted By 4Truck:
Originally Posted By castiel:
I can't imagine spending $400 on something to open boxes when a $50 knife works just as well. I imagine there are much better tools than a pocket knife to use for cuttiing glass too ...

If I needed something my life depends on it wouldn't be a knife it'd be a gun and even that is less than $400




Not this shit again...

So you only shoot Ravens and Lorcins then? Drive a Yugo? Live in a trailer?

Sure, you could get by with a $50 pocket knfe, but whats the fun in that. Some people like nice things if for no other reason than to own them.



No I shoot nice guns and drive a nice car because I don't spend $400 on a knife
4Truck  [Member]
3/14/2012 3:51:01 PM
Originally Posted By castiel:
Originally Posted By 4Truck:
Originally Posted By castiel:
I can't imagine spending $400 on something to open boxes when a $50 knife works just as well. I imagine there are much better tools than a pocket knife to use for cuttiing glass too ...

If I needed something my life depends on it wouldn't be a knife it'd be a gun and even that is less than $400




Not this shit again...

So you only shoot Ravens and Lorcins then? Drive a Yugo? Live in a trailer?

Sure, you could get by with a $50 pocket knfe, but whats the fun in that. Some people like nice things if for no other reason than to own them.



No I shoot nice guns and drive a nice car because I don't spend $400 on a knife


Fair enough. Good answer!

joker581  [Life Member]
3/14/2012 4:05:18 PM
Whether it's worth $400 or not is up to the user, but it's silly to think that $400 is too much to pay for a good knife. $400's about what it costs to buy a decent pistol and carry rig and the vast majority of people who carry will never actually need to use it. $400 for a tool that you'll use every day for as many years as you can manage to still like it and not lose it isn't really all that much, although not everyone can afford it.





AlanP  [Member]
3/14/2012 5:28:47 PM
Originally Posted By CREPR:
I have aspirations of owning one, but the closest I've been is just handling them. I must say, I don't think there's a sturdier, better built knife capable of the hard use that the Striders are made for. Yea, they're expensive, but it is afterall a custom made knife and everything else in comparison looks/feels like child's play. I'm not ripping on other brands, as I own a slew of quality knives that are plenty capable of EDC for my purpose. But, if I had a genuine "hard-use" EDC requirement, IMO there would be no substitute for a Strider.


Strider's are not custom knives...Not ones you buy for $400 anyways. They aren't assembly line S&W $15 jobs either, but they are not custom. You can however but custom knives in the $400 price range all day long. I had a Sng, and i though it was an excelleng knife. It locked up tight it was extremely light and felt pretty great in the hand. Then again, my Spyderco Para-military2 fits that bill as well. I think they are just one of those things you need to handle first to make the call on. Would I spend $400 on a knife again, most definitely, but I do NOT still own my sng. Money got tight, I cut myself back to pay for some stuff. I sold alot of nice knives, but still have my Spyderco PM2, a Hest/f 2.0, and a Kershaw s30v leek. Once money turns back around, I can't say for sure if I'll have another strider or not. I can say that it will NOT be the first choice in high end knives next time around. I'll be looking towards the hinderer Zero Tolerances, or a Hinderer.
nicholasgentges  [Member]
3/14/2012 6:09:41 PM
Thanks for all the insight and as stated I work construction not retail were I open boxes all day and when I do I use a utility knife, I also did not know that about the owners what would be some other good folders I have always went with benchmades and have never had problems with them but I am open to all good quality folders.
dpmmn  [Life Member]
3/14/2012 8:54:14 PM

Originally Posted By castiel:
I can't imagine spending $400 on something to open boxes when a $50 knife works just as well. I imagine there are much better tools than a pocket knife to use for cuttiing glass too ...

If I needed something my life depends on it wouldn't be a knife it'd be a gun and even that is less than $400



Unless it's used you aint going to get a new SMF for $400.00 a basic SMF starts out around $475.00 and go up to $550.00


You get what you pay for

I don't have to worry about the framelock breaking and cutting my hand all to hell

I'll stick to what I have and Strider stands behind their products
AlanP  [Member]
3/15/2012 1:46:27 AM
If your looking for a beefy/pry bricks kind of folder check out zero tolerance. I honestly don't think you can get a better knife than the zero tolleranxe and high end mershaws for the mo et. They stand behind their products, and don't hassle u about taking them apart like so.e companies do, in fact they all but encourage it.
PFC_Kramer  [Member]
3/15/2012 7:47:29 AM
I have reservations about Mick Strider and his made up bullshit about being some secret squirrel operator in the military. He can keep all his overpriced water jet cut knives and crazed fanboys to himself. I'm sure his products work and last a long time, but I take personal offense to false claims of military service and even more when it's used for advertising a company. And any knife, made with good materials and respect to good manufacturing techniques will last longer than any of us here. Make sure you are buying a knife.....not a name, and the price will come down.

from


Can anyone elaborate?
TheJeanyus  [Member]
3/15/2012 9:50:41 AM
Originally Posted By castiel:
I can't imagine spending $400 on something to open boxes when a $50 knife works just as well. I imagine there are much better tools than a pocket knife to use for cuttiing glass too ...

If I needed something my life depends on it wouldn't be a knife it'd be a gun and even that is less than $400



I guess my overpriced EDC knife goes great with my daily-worn overpriced watch (Omega).

I'd rather have one $500 knife than ten $50 knives just like I'd rather have my $4000 Omega (though I paid MUCH less than retail) than 400 $10 Walmart watches.
castiel  [Team Member]
3/15/2012 9:59:16 AM
Just make sure you never accidentally have your $400 knife on you when you go through a security checkpoint and have to trash it.
GTSS  [Member]
3/15/2012 8:37:15 PM
Originally Posted By AlanP:
If your looking for a beefy/pry bricks kind of folder check out zero tolerance. I honestly don't think you can get a better knife than the zero tollerance


This.

The ZT0350 is the best 120 bucks I've spent in a long time.

.

sheltot  [Team Member]
3/15/2012 8:41:39 PM
I used to love my SnG. I love who it was named for. But I can't support the BS: http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies313.htm
dpmmn  [Life Member]
3/15/2012 9:20:14 PM
There is a lot of bullshit on the internet

Here is what Force Recon Marines have to say about Strider Knives

http://www.forcerecon.com/strongmenarmed3.htm

Strider Knives has a strong connection to the military community. If you are active duty enlisted, they will knock 20% off the cost of the knife.

Perhaps a better indicator of their integrity is this. Each year the Company has recognized a Team Leader who has performed far and above what is usual — not an easy feat in a testosterone-laden world of hairy chested steel-bellied commandos. With the loss of five of our brothers, it was decided that this honor would be expanded to include an Assistant Team Leader, Radio Operator, Scout and Corpsmen of the year.

For 1999, the awards went to SSgt Vincent Sabasteanski, SSgt David Galloway, SSgt Jeffery Starling, Cpl Mark Baca, and HMI Jay Asis. They were honored not because they were killed, but rather for what they accomplished in the Company.

Strider Knives asked if they could donate a knife to each of the families, a very generous offer that was readily accepted. In July, each family received an engraved BG knife, mounted in a beautiful presentation case.

Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer wanted no public acknowledgement of this. In fact, they threatened me with severe bodily harm if I ever said anything about this in print.

The Marines in the Company believe otherwise. GySgt Terry Wyrick and others made the point that what Strider Knives wanted had nothing to do with what would eventually occut They wanted others to know of their thoughtfulness and generosity.

nicholasgentges  [Member]
3/15/2012 10:30:11 PM
I will have to look in to the zero tolerance, but I think I will have to save for a strider. They make what to be some of the best folders made I have no reason to believe that what is said about the owner is true or false, the internet is full of lies and truth. Although you can’t argue whit the quality of their knives and I understand that there are good knives out there for cheaper, hell I have never had a problem with any of my 5 benchmades I have no problem with paying for a quality American made product.
olds442tyguy  [Member]
3/15/2012 10:36:00 PM
Originally Posted By dpmmn:
There is a lot of bullshit on the internet

Here is what Force Recon Marines have to say about Strider Knives

http://www.forcerecon.com/strongmenarmed3.htm

Strider Knives has a strong connection to the military community. If you are active duty enlisted, they will knock 20% off the cost of the knife.

Perhaps a better indicator of their integrity is this. Each year the Company has recognized a Team Leader who has performed far and above what is usual — not an easy feat in a testosterone-laden world of hairy chested steel-bellied commandos. With the loss of five of our brothers, it was decided that this honor would be expanded to include an Assistant Team Leader, Radio Operator, Scout and Corpsmen of the year.

For 1999, the awards went to SSgt Vincent Sabasteanski, SSgt David Galloway, SSgt Jeffery Starling, Cpl Mark Baca, and HMI Jay Asis. They were honored not because they were killed, but rather for what they accomplished in the Company.

Strider Knives asked if they could donate a knife to each of the families, a very generous offer that was readily accepted. In July, each family received an engraved BG knife, mounted in a beautiful presentation case.

Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer wanted no public acknowledgement of this. In fact, they threatened me with severe bodily harm if I ever said anything about this in print.

The Marines in the Company believe otherwise. GySgt Terry Wyrick and others made the point that what Strider Knives wanted had nothing to do with what would eventually occut They wanted others to know of their thoughtfulness and generosity.



That's very noble and Duane has BTDT but Mick was caught falsifying his military past. It's not bullshit as it's all documented, even in court.

PhreakMode  [Team Member]
3/15/2012 11:36:34 PM
I stopped carrying my SMF a few months back due to my inherit nature of easily losing things. I now carry a Hogue Elishewitz button lock under normal daily circumstances, it is by no means a Strider but it is light years beoyond anything in it's price range.

If you have the money for an SMF, roll with it and be happy, they are rugged like no ones business!
coyotesilencer  [Member]
3/16/2012 8:37:33 AM
I dont know if you know or not, but Buck had a collaberation with Strider and came up with the Buck Strider Knife lineup.

They are well built by Buck and a fraction of the price of a real Strider built knife.

I am looking for a 889 model myself, they were discontinued some time ago.
AlanP  [Member]
3/16/2012 9:00:47 AM
Originally Posted By coyotesilencer:
I dont know if you know or not, but Buck had a collaberation with Strider and came up with the Buck Strider Knife lineup.

They are well built by Buck and a fraction of the price of a real Strider built knife.

I am looking for a 889 model myself, they were discontinued some time ago.




They are exactly what you said, a cheaper version of the Strider, also they are pretty much uncervicable since they aren't made any more. If you break one your SOL...IF you were to break a strider, at least you'd get another strider.
Icopy  [Member]
3/16/2012 10:36:27 AM
I have a Strider BT (fixed blade tanto style) and it has held up very well through my backpacking trips in which you need to depend on your tools. If you want a Strider, get one. They are great knives. If you want a deal on one, keep checking the EE. That's where I found mine for about $100 below a new one and it came with two sheaths.
TheJeanyus  [Member]
3/16/2012 12:22:49 PM
Maybe my Strider has skewed my opinion on other knives, but I was not impressed with the ZT knives I've handled. I was really looking forward to handling a few, and I just wasn't as thrilled with them as I expected. I felt they were uneccessarily thick/bulky in places that could have been slimmer and that the blades were too loose for a knife in that price range. In that price range, I'd personally rather have a Benchmade or one of the nicer Spydercos. YMMV as always.
AR15fan  [Team Member]
3/16/2012 12:29:40 PM
Too expensive and the blades are not well designed for actual knife work like cutting in a straight line, skinning, peeling. Glorified folding prison shanks.
dpmmn  [Life Member]
3/17/2012 1:00:58 AM

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Too expensive and the blades are not well designed for actual knife work like cutting in a straight line, skinning, peeling. Glorified folding prison shanks.

Your beloved Corps issues the SMF, not too shabby for a glorified folding prison shank huh

Strider also has a skinning blade named after Marine Corps Scout Sinper Chuck Mawhinney and another blade named after Mike Mendoza
AR15fan  [Team Member]
3/17/2012 1:08:33 AM
Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Too expensive and the blades are not well designed for actual knife work like cutting in a straight line, skinning, peeling. Glorified folding prison shanks.

Your beloved Corps issues the SMF, not too shabby for a glorified folding prison shank huh

Strider also has a skinning blade named after Marine Corps Scout Sinper Chuck Mawhinney and another blade named after Mike Mendoza


Military issue or use is not a sign of a well designed knife. You know what Marines use knives for? Opening MRE's and as prybars.
dpmmn  [Life Member]
3/17/2012 1:22:00 AM

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Military issue or use is not a sign of a well designed knife. You know what Marines use knives for? Opening MRE's and as prybars.


You are correct, I always thought the KBar was a waste of good steel they are flimsey at best with weak tips

I cut steak, sausage, slice cheese, cut tape, slice open boxes, that tanto tip works great for everything up to used as a screwdriver to scraping off paint and as a prybar too. I beat the shit out of my knives they are a useful tool

Lay down your better design for a knife, I'm not a huntah so I'm not worried about skinning anything

grabagear  [Member]
3/18/2012 10:20:27 PM
I also like benchmades. Haven't tried a Strider. But recently bought aa Grayman dua. And I can't imagine a better stronger folder! Except the Grayman satu. But that is a little big for edc. Check out the dua before buying the Strider. I can't say enough about it. Plus lifetime warranty and emailing them before my purchase either the owner or his wife where the ones replying very nice people to deal with.
I did alot of research before buying this. It was going to be either a Strider or a sebenza or the dua. I have been using it hard and no the thing is a tank!
Good for delicate stuff too. Just ask the wife how I "embarrassed" her the other night lol, my pet leave is a dull knife especially with a good steak. So the watress brings me my steak and a piece of shut knife to cut it with. So i whip out my dua and finish my meal with that. Wife didn't like that but oh well she laughed later.
Hawaiianone  [Member]
3/18/2012 10:40:08 PM
Doesn't matter if it is knives, guns, watches or whatever. Buy what you like and buy the very best that you can afford. I don't carry a Strider for EDC. I carry a Mayo. Cost twice as much as a Strider. You get what you pay for. Would a $50 knife do most of the cutting tasks, yes, but it would as enjoyable as using a great custom knife? NO. But then, a Timex will keep good enough time so no one needs a Pam. And a Bushmaster will shoot well enough, so maybe no one really needs a Noveske.
TheJeanyus  [Member]
3/19/2012 10:20:10 AM
Originally Posted By Hawaiianone:
Doesn't matter if it is knives, guns, watches or whatever. Buy what you like and buy the very best that you can afford. I don't carry a Strider for EDC. I carry a Mayo. Cost twice as much as a Strider. You get what you pay for. Would a $50 knife do most of the cutting tasks, yes, but it would as enjoyable as using a great custom knife? NO. But then, a Timex will keep good enough time so no one needs a Pam. And a Bushmaster will shoot well enough, so maybe no one really needs a Noveske.

Well said

And I'd never heard of Mayo knives, but I checked out the website. Good looking stuff.
Feedingcannibal  [Member]
3/26/2012 12:13:20 PM
Never ceases to amaze me how upset guys can get over sharpened steel.

I edc an SMF. Have for 5 years. Use it for everything. Sent it to Strider for the spa treatment once, came back like new.

Recently picked up a BN-SS. Rambo/zombie/camping dream knife. Stider spa treatment, sharp as fuck.

A knife like a Strider should last you a lifetime. I compare it to a Rolex. All watches keep time, the Rolexes & Striders of the world just do it with alotta testosterone. Which I like.

Strider, ftw.
JimJones  [Member]
3/30/2012 10:49:55 AM
OP
I was in the same situation as you just last week. I have literally spent the whole week checking out different blades.
I'll tell you right now before I bought a $500 Strider I would buy this instead
http://www.bladehq.com/item––Zero-Tolerance-777-Knife-3––9498

here is a vid of it put it on 1080 and full screne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SclqAnteNPI


I would still like to get a Strider but if I was going to get one I would want it to have both sides of the handle finished in their flame striped titanium.
I assume that this would be a custom order and all the custom Striders I have seen are well into the 1k range way more than I would spend on any knife. Personally the most I would spend on any knife no matter how bad ass is $500.


Other knives to consider:
I love these Lion Steel knives:
http://www.truenorthknives.com/vcom/index.php?cPath=347_497

here is Spyderco's version of the Lionsteel i like it because i dont really like thumb studs
http://www.bladehq.com/item––Spyderco-LionSpy-Folding-Pocket––9132

some other cool knives
http://www.bladehq.com/item––Spyderco-TiMil-Military––7991

http://www.bladehq.com/item––Spyderco-Paramilitary-2-Knife-Digi––8740

http://www.bladehq.com/item––Zero-ToleranceHinderer-0561-Knife––9497
Shag633  [Member]
3/31/2012 1:39:02 PM
I am working in the glazing industry as well and have my well used Emerson CQC-7 with me everyday. However I do love my SnG and wouldn't hesitate to use it for anything.
Lootie23  [Team Member]
3/31/2012 2:19:28 PM
Not for me, I lose pocketknives way to easy
Aimless  [Site Staff]
3/31/2012 8:06:41 PM
Neverminc, too long a day
Kilroytheknifesnob  [Member]
3/31/2012 9:53:36 PM
OP: No they aren't. Get something from Emerson or Zero Tolerance. I don't see the value in strider knives.

Also, do you really want to be supporting a guy guilty of stolen valor?
wsix  [Member]
4/1/2012 2:41:29 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Neverminc, too long a day


And the winner is.......
nicholasgentges  [Member]
4/9/2012 7:34:24 PM
I think next pay check I will be getting a zero tolerance or Emerson I will just have to see what come up for sale on the EE. Tho the strider is on my list of knives to get I have worn my benchmade griptillan out. Thanks for all of your input I will update with pics when I get it