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1/16/2012 12:55:28 AM
Second quarter 2012. 24" Barrel.
Source: thefirearmblog.com
Source: thefirearmblog.com
1/16/2012 1:16:45 AM
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They should concentrate on what they currently have instead of releasing new shit that takes a decade to come to a store near you
They should concentrate on what they currently have instead of releasing new shit that takes a decade to come to a store near you
1/16/2012 1:22:24 AM
Originally Posted By peligro113:
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They should concentrate on what they currently have instead of releasing new shit that takes a decade to come to a store near you
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They should concentrate on what they currently have instead of releasing new shit that takes a decade to come to a store near you
at double or triple msrp
1/16/2012 1:23:49 AM
I have a better chance of ordering a unicorn and having it mailed to my house
1/16/2012 1:47:14 AM
I've held and liked an RFB.
I want an RFB.
I will eventually get an RFB.
I'm not interested in that. I dont get why they would need to mess with it beyond making more of them. 24 inch barrel does what for the platform?
How much more velocity do you get adding 6 inches to the barrel?
How does the tactical quad rail (that is hopefully free floated) make it a better hunting rifle than the original?
I just dont get it?
I want an RFB.
I will eventually get an RFB.
I'm not interested in that. I dont get why they would need to mess with it beyond making more of them. 24 inch barrel does what for the platform?
How much more velocity do you get adding 6 inches to the barrel?
How does the tactical quad rail (that is hopefully free floated) make it a better hunting rifle than the original?
I just dont get it?
1/16/2012 2:02:36 AM
It's an abomination. They need to concentrate on producing the original RFB in quantities where people can actually buy them like any other gun.
1/16/2012 2:04:48 AM
why is the bipod on backwards
1/16/2012 2:15:45 AM
Originally Posted By peligro113:
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They should concentrate on what they currently have instead of releasing new shit that takes a decade to come to a store near you
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They should concentrate on what they currently have instead of releasing new shit that takes a decade to come to a store near you
That's been said many time about KT but it's well worth repeating.
I still remember the KT guy at Shot Show running down the FS2000 until I pointed out I could call a dozen different numbers and have a dozen different FN's in hand by the end of the week. I won't be making the show this year but anybody who does is encouraged to remind them of that and tell them Uncle Greg is still miffed.
1/16/2012 2:21:57 AM
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
1/16/2012 2:58:09 AM
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
It may be a bullpup but a bipod still works the same way. How are you going to load the bipod if keeps closing on you? And than thing is no longer compact.
1/16/2012 3:16:36 AM
Originally Posted By peligro113:
It may be a bullpup but a bipod still works the same way. How are you going to load the bipod if keeps closing on you? And than thing is no longer compact.
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
It may be a bullpup but a bipod still works the same way. How are you going to load the bipod if keeps closing on you? And than thing is no longer compact.
I know how a bipod works. The picture is just to advertise the product. They are trying to make it appear compact.
1/16/2012 4:00:49 AM
Fugly! The original looks way better. I haven't followed this project for a while, it appears they're still made of unobtanium?
1/16/2012 5:23:30 AM
Defeats the purpose of being a bullpup config.
+1 what all you guys said about concentrating and focusing on relieving supply issues on current RFB.
+1 what all you guys said about concentrating and focusing on relieving supply issues on current RFB.
1/16/2012 10:40:00 AM
24" barrel
and that shroud
I wish KT the best but I agree it's fuggly and they really need to deliver the regular RFB in real quantity before dicking around with variants. There is an RFB on Sturm for $1500 IIRC but they are still not too common.
and that shroud
I wish KT the best but I agree it's fuggly and they really need to deliver the regular RFB in real quantity before dicking around with variants. There is an RFB on Sturm for $1500 IIRC but they are still not too common.
1/16/2012 2:32:01 PM
Do not like. Ditto on concentrate on making more of the standard rifle RIGHT NOW...
1/16/2012 4:05:38 PM
The shroud and the bipod are indeed 
..
The shroud/rails are pretty much because KT figures (probably correctly) that the market demands that.
The bipod is probably because it was staged by someone for the photograph who does not know better, and thought the folded legs pointing forward "looked wrong".
Longer Barrel versions of the RFB were always in the planning stages, actually a 30" barreled version was the whole reason Kelgren designed the RFB, and went with it in .308/7.62 NATO rather than the cheaper and now more popular .223/5.56.
The whole point of the RFB initially was to produce it with a 30" barrel, and use a bullpup action to save on the length. With heavy VLD .308's, and a slower burning powder to take advantage of the long barrel, you can get close to the bottom end of .300 Magnum ballistics. That's the entire purpose behind the design. Kelgren wanted a really long legged .308 rifle that was semi-auto, used a shorter more standard action so it could use a standard surplus magazine, and not be ridiculously long in it's overall length.
KT just came out with the carbine first, because they knew that's what would sell the best.
I say it in every KT thread where folks gripe about the availiblity, and the distributor/dealer price gouging. This is because KT absolutely will not go into debt to expand their manufacturing capacity, and they grow very slowly out-of-pocket.
However, wishing I could have a RFB, a PMR-30, a KSG, and the RMR-30 that's coming out later this year... I'm kind of getting sick of KT's "austerity" too.
..
The shroud/rails are pretty much because KT figures (probably correctly) that the market demands that.
The bipod is probably because it was staged by someone for the photograph who does not know better, and thought the folded legs pointing forward "looked wrong".
Longer Barrel versions of the RFB were always in the planning stages, actually a 30" barreled version was the whole reason Kelgren designed the RFB, and went with it in .308/7.62 NATO rather than the cheaper and now more popular .223/5.56.
The whole point of the RFB initially was to produce it with a 30" barrel, and use a bullpup action to save on the length. With heavy VLD .308's, and a slower burning powder to take advantage of the long barrel, you can get close to the bottom end of .300 Magnum ballistics. That's the entire purpose behind the design. Kelgren wanted a really long legged .308 rifle that was semi-auto, used a shorter more standard action so it could use a standard surplus magazine, and not be ridiculously long in it's overall length.
KT just came out with the carbine first, because they knew that's what would sell the best.
I say it in every KT thread where folks gripe about the availiblity, and the distributor/dealer price gouging. This is because KT absolutely will not go into debt to expand their manufacturing capacity, and they grow very slowly out-of-pocket.
However, wishing I could have a RFB, a PMR-30, a KSG, and the RMR-30 that's coming out later this year... I'm kind of getting sick of KT's "austerity" too.
1/16/2012 4:34:14 PM
Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
The shroud and the bipod are indeed..
The shroud/rails are pretty much because KT figures (probably correctly) that the market demands that.
The bipod is probably because it was staged by someone for the photograph who does not know better, and thought the folded legs pointing forward "looked wrong".
Longer Barrel versions of the RFB were always in the planning stages, actually a 30" barreled version was the whole reason Kelgren designed the RFB, and went with it in .308/7.62 NATO rather than the cheaper and now more popular .223/5.56.
The whole point of the RFB initially was to produce it with a 30" barrel, and use a bullpup action to save on the length. With heavy VLD .308's, and a slower burning powder to take advantage of the long barrel, you can get close to the bottom end of .300 Magnum ballistics. That's the entire purpose behind the design. Kelgren wanted a really long legged .308 rifle that was semi-auto, used a shorter more standard action so it could use a standard surplus magazine, and not be ridiculously long in it's overall length.
KT just came out with the carbine first, because they knew that's what would sell the best.
I say it in every KT thread where folks gripe about the availiblity, and the distributor/dealer price gouging. This is because KT absolutely will not go into debt to expand their manufacturing capacity, and they grow very slowly out-of-pocket.
However, wishing I could have a RFB, a PMR-30, a KSG, and the RMR-30 that's coming out later this year... I'm kind of getting sick of KT's "austerity" too.
The shroud and the bipod are indeed
..
The shroud/rails are pretty much because KT figures (probably correctly) that the market demands that.
The bipod is probably because it was staged by someone for the photograph who does not know better, and thought the folded legs pointing forward "looked wrong".
Longer Barrel versions of the RFB were always in the planning stages, actually a 30" barreled version was the whole reason Kelgren designed the RFB, and went with it in .308/7.62 NATO rather than the cheaper and now more popular .223/5.56.
The whole point of the RFB initially was to produce it with a 30" barrel, and use a bullpup action to save on the length. With heavy VLD .308's, and a slower burning powder to take advantage of the long barrel, you can get close to the bottom end of .300 Magnum ballistics. That's the entire purpose behind the design. Kelgren wanted a really long legged .308 rifle that was semi-auto, used a shorter more standard action so it could use a standard surplus magazine, and not be ridiculously long in it's overall length.
KT just came out with the carbine first, because they knew that's what would sell the best.
I say it in every KT thread where folks gripe about the availiblity, and the distributor/dealer price gouging. This is because KT absolutely will not go into debt to expand their manufacturing capacity, and they grow very slowly out-of-pocket.
However, wishing I could have a RFB, a PMR-30, a KSG, and the RMR-30 that's coming out later this year... I'm kind of getting sick of KT's "austerity" too.
+1 THANKS for the education!
1/16/2012 4:53:54 PM
I hope in a few years the 24" barrel might be available seperately.
+1 on the get more RFB's out hte door. I love mine but wished I hadn't had to pay what I did for it..
+1 on the get more RFB's out hte door. I love mine but wished I hadn't had to pay what I did for it..
1/16/2012 9:05:49 PM
Owned an RFB...neat rifle...I know I wouldn't buy anything longer than the 18" version...that 24" looks goofy and lets be honest it's KT, so it's not going to be a sub MOA rifle, so why bother with a longer barrel?
1/16/2012 9:16:00 PM
For the hunter version they should have made it in 338I federal.
1/17/2012 10:12:03 AM
Meh.
1/17/2012 10:18:02 AM
Hokey high bore axis.
1/17/2012 10:41:09 AM
That thing looks fuggly.
1/17/2012 3:10:34 PM
I have a 18in model and it is plenty good up to 500m. I really would not be interested in a longer barrel because it defeats the purpose of compactness. For target rifles I'll go with my bolt guns but hunting with this one is no problemo. Works very well in a confined blind.
1/17/2012 5:40:22 PM
Originally Posted By ddnc:
I have a 18in model and it is plenty good up to 500m. I really would not be interested in a longer barrel because it defeats the purpose of compactness...
I have a 18in model and it is plenty good up to 500m. I really would not be interested in a longer barrel because it defeats the purpose of compactness...
Same here.
I love my RFB, might even consider a second one some day, but that long-bbl variant doesn't appeal to me in the least. JMHO.
1/19/2012 2:53:55 PM
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
They could easily turn the bipod around and mount it closer to the hand guard. That would not increase the length.
1/19/2012 5:24:46 PM
Originally Posted By libra8:
They could easily turn the bipod around and mount it closer to the hand guard. That would not increase the length.
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
They could easily turn the bipod around and mount it closer to the hand guard. That would not increase the length.
Think of it as a less severe version of when HK put out the ad with the rounds loaded backwards in the magazine
1/19/2012 5:45:52 PM
Originally Posted By Pax_Americana:
Think of it as a less severe version of when HK put out the ad with the rounds loaded backwards in the magazine
Originally Posted By libra8:
They could easily turn the bipod around and mount it closer to the hand guard. That would not increase the length.
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
They could easily turn the bipod around and mount it closer to the hand guard. That would not increase the length.
Think of it as a less severe version of when HK put out the ad with the rounds loaded backwards in the magazine
Except I think they did it on purpose
1/20/2012 9:31:14 PM
Originally Posted By peligro113:
It may be a bullpup but a bipod still works the same way. How are you going to load the bipod if keeps closing on you? And than thing is no longer compact.
Originally Posted By jh1990:
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
Originally Posted By peligro113:
why is the bipod on backwards
why is the bipod on backwards
Because it is a bullpup. The best feature of a bullpup is the compact size. If they put the bipods on right they would extend past the muzzle.
It may be a bullpup but a bipod still works the same way. How are you going to load the bipod if keeps closing on you? And than thing is no longer compact.
You can't "load" those flimsy pieces of shit anyway. Why all of the negativity?
If you want an RFB, buy an RFB. Crying about KelTec's production levels won't get you an RFB.
1/20/2012 11:22:22 PM
Nothing that I want....
1/21/2012 1:22:09 AM
They should have used an atlas bipod or maybe a modpod for the picture.
The rail looks fuqugly but it does have a purpose, and that is to hold on a bipod. You want them to spend the time to make a pretty barrel shroud for a bipod attachment point? Also if keltec didn't add the rail we would be making noise about not being able to mount a bipod or flashlight.
Besides this gives someone the perfect opportunity to make and sell a lighter, more tacticool version of that barrel shroud thingy that goes up.
