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Can't decide hi point 4595 or mechtech ccu
9/21/2011 8:31:42 PM
I am wanting a 45acp carbine something bad. However I cannot decide on what. Mag capacity is really a non issue for me.
first is the hi point 4595. its cheap, accurate, and surprisingly ergonomic. The bad part is the mags aren't cheap and I don't want to convert my precious 1911 mags. These are about $300 locally.
Next up is the Mech tech 1911 CCU. I've never handled one and there is not a ton of information out there about them. Pros are I already have a 1911 and mags. I can throw it in a bag and have it ready as a truck gun or whatever. I like the idea of being able to throw my frame on there. I'm looking at around $400ish assuming I can't find a used one.
I was hoping some of you guys could help me out with your opinions and perhaps some info on either platform.
first is the hi point 4595. its cheap, accurate, and surprisingly ergonomic. The bad part is the mags aren't cheap and I don't want to convert my precious 1911 mags. These are about $300 locally.
Next up is the Mech tech 1911 CCU. I've never handled one and there is not a ton of information out there about them. Pros are I already have a 1911 and mags. I can throw it in a bag and have it ready as a truck gun or whatever. I like the idea of being able to throw my frame on there. I'm looking at around $400ish assuming I can't find a used one.
I was hoping some of you guys could help me out with your opinions and perhaps some info on either platform.
9/21/2011 10:21:46 PM
The Mech-Tech works well. Its recoil spring is kind of annoying, but you sort of get used to it.
Its easy to set up the way you want it.
I recommend it, but I have no experience at all with your other choice.
Its easy to set up the way you want it.
I recommend it, but I have no experience at all with your other choice.
9/21/2011 11:40:30 PM
The MechTech is heavy. It's solid and works well, and is even more appealing IMO since the ATF changed their stance on reverting the frame back to a pistol, but it will be considerably heavier than the HP if that is an issue.
9/23/2011 9:32:26 AM
Mech Techs are not that expensive. I just ordered my second and third CCUs directly from Mech Tech, and IIRC, the cost was $780 shipped for the two of them. I think the first one was about $410 new, shipped. Granted, I went with a no-frills set-up. If you add a bunch of stuff, the cost is going to go up fast, of course.
The one I have is a .38 Super set up for the 1911 frame. I've been very happy with it. I only have about 200 rounds through it, though, so it's not like it's thoroughly tested. It's a pretty accurate little gun, to be honest. I had improperly mounted my scope the first time (forgot to tighten the rings onto the rail) and it was still doing 2" groups at 50 yards with precision loaded ammunition. I might attempt to accuracy test it again, later, but I've not retried it.
I plan to get a .357 Sig CCU for the 1911 frame, eventually, too.
Another thing to think about is that your 1911 probably has a FAR better trigger than the Hi-Point. If accuracy (or being effective at longer distances) is important, you should think about that. It's also easier to clean the CCU.
The one I have is a .38 Super set up for the 1911 frame. I've been very happy with it. I only have about 200 rounds through it, though, so it's not like it's thoroughly tested. It's a pretty accurate little gun, to be honest. I had improperly mounted my scope the first time (forgot to tighten the rings onto the rail) and it was still doing 2" groups at 50 yards with precision loaded ammunition. I might attempt to accuracy test it again, later, but I've not retried it.
I plan to get a .357 Sig CCU for the 1911 frame, eventually, too.
Another thing to think about is that your 1911 probably has a FAR better trigger than the Hi-Point. If accuracy (or being effective at longer distances) is important, you should think about that. It's also easier to clean the CCU.
9/23/2011 12:40:20 PM
I'll be the one to say the Hi-Point is probably the better choice for a truck gun. The trigger isn't bad so you can reasonably make head shots out to 100 yards or so, accuracy-wise. Firing 230 grain bullets at low velocity and expecting to hit anything further than 50-75 yards consistently is another matter. The holdover estimation is going to become a problem far earlier than the trigger. As a truck gun, it definitely makes sense to have the carbine AND your sidearm, not just one or the other. The Hi-Point certainly isn't fancy but it's a lot less expensive.
9/27/2011 11:20:24 AM
Having owned a Hi Point Carbine I can say my experience with it was positive. It shot well, never gave me a moment of trouble, and was probably the best firearm value I ever bought. Sure, it looks cheap but "you can't judge a book by looking at the cover". I wish some of my high dollar firearms were as reliable and accurate as the Hi Point.
10/1/2011 8:15:02 PM
I went with the Hi-Point 4595 and JHP for my truck gun/GHB. They share the same 9 round mags. The carbine is a good shooter and I can hit a 11X17 five out of nine rounds paper out to 100 yards, off hand. At 50 yards, I'm in the black 9 for 9. If I got out a little more often I could do better at 100yds, I think. I have never shot the Mech Tech 1911 CCU or handled one. I have seen them on GB. The carbine and pistol mag sharing was the deal closer for me. Good luck with your decision.
10/4/2011 3:16:57 AM
I have the mech-tec upper in 10mm, I use a Glock 45 lower on it with Glock 10mm mags. A fun way to shoot 10mm. I've been thinking about getting a .45 upper and using the same lower.
10/8/2011 12:11:25 AM
I have a mech-tech upper for the 1911 (.45acp) and found it to be reliable and accurate, unfortunately I sold my 1911 so I guess I need to get around to selling it someday.
