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DPMS SASS or Savage Model 10 BA
2/29/2012 11:34:52 PM
Hey guys,
Never done any real long distance shooting –– all I have now is the .223/5.56 w/ 14.7" barrel..
I'm really wanting a .308; I've read and heard great things about this round!
The two guns I am looking at are the...
Savage Arms Model 10 BA (.308) - $1,699
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10BA
DPMS Panther LRT-SASS (.308) - $1,744
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=19
I've heard really great things about both guns; especially in terms of accuracy from the Savage. First and foremost, but probably "least important" in terms of precision, is the fact that I love the look of both rifles –– that tactical "scary" look.
Main draw back is that I can't find either of them in stock, ready to ship and order.. (anyone have a better choice for where to look, or where to get one?)
I'd really like some opinions on..
Any other information is much appreciated..
Never done any real long distance shooting –– all I have now is the .223/5.56 w/ 14.7" barrel..
I'm really wanting a .308; I've read and heard great things about this round!
The two guns I am looking at are the...
Savage Arms Model 10 BA (.308) - $1,699
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10BA
DPMS Panther LRT-SASS (.308) - $1,744
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=19
I've heard really great things about both guns; especially in terms of accuracy from the Savage. First and foremost, but probably "least important" in terms of precision, is the fact that I love the look of both rifles –– that tactical "scary" look.
Main draw back is that I can't find either of them in stock, ready to ship and order.. (anyone have a better choice for where to look, or where to get one?)
I'd really like some opinions on..
- Where would be the best place to order the rifle? Prefer a place that has one in stock, ready to go.
- Which rifle would be a better choice?
- Would I be better getting a rifle like this, or go with a Remington 700 and just change the stock, etc and make it "look the part"?
Any other information is much appreciated..
3/1/2012 11:36:39 AM
Let’s see here, post count of 10, maybe I should try and help out here before the $#!@ Storm cometh!
LOOKS! Don’t mean squat when it comes to precision long range shooting! As such, do the right thing and don’t let looks be any part of your decision making process. Make your decision based on what will give you the best results. The best shooters are usually the one that show up with a rifle that looks like hell. The ones who show up with a “Safe Queen” or the “Tacti-Cool Scary Terminator” usually can’t hit the broad side of a barn!
.308, not sure what you are reading that says that is great, but I would suggest that you read some of the following and you will probably rethink that:
Bryan Litz .30 Cal Article
6mm BR - Accurate Shooter
Zak Smith Articles
A .308 does have pro’s such as lots of off the shelf ammo choices, and plenty of factory rifles to choose from, but its ballistic performance is far from being the best choice for precision long range shooting.
NEW GUY, not sure what your shooting background is, but based on your comments it would seem that you are new to the game, and as such I would strongly suggest that you find some experienced precision long range shooters in your area to hook up with. I am in Louisville, so if you are close, give me a shout. If you are East or West, check the KY Hometown Forum, there are plenty of shooters there to hook up with. Most of the shooters I know will always welcome and help out the new guys as much as they can.
HANDS ON IT, I would hope that no one would ever buy a precision long range rifle without having had the chance to try it out. Per my comment above, hook up with the shooters in your area, and go to your local ranges and gun stores, and get your hands on anything you are thinking about buying to make sure IT WORKS FOR YOU!
Sorry, I am not trying to be a jerk, but if you are going to be serious about precision long range shooting, then you probably need to put the brakes on, do a lot more homework, make some local shooting connections, and get your hands on some stuff and shoot it before you jump in and spend your money on something that is not going to meet your needs.
Forums like this are a great place to learn, but IMHO you really need to try and get your feet wet first hand on a local level. Not to mention, drop the “Tacticool Scary Terminator” crap!
If you have specific questions that you can’t get an answer to, then by all means drop me a PM or Email and I will do everything I can to help you out. Please just make sure you are making an honest effort on your end.
Best of Luck,
M Richardson
LOOKS! Don’t mean squat when it comes to precision long range shooting! As such, do the right thing and don’t let looks be any part of your decision making process. Make your decision based on what will give you the best results. The best shooters are usually the one that show up with a rifle that looks like hell. The ones who show up with a “Safe Queen” or the “Tacti-Cool Scary Terminator” usually can’t hit the broad side of a barn!
.308, not sure what you are reading that says that is great, but I would suggest that you read some of the following and you will probably rethink that:
Bryan Litz .30 Cal Article
6mm BR - Accurate Shooter
Zak Smith Articles
A .308 does have pro’s such as lots of off the shelf ammo choices, and plenty of factory rifles to choose from, but its ballistic performance is far from being the best choice for precision long range shooting.
NEW GUY, not sure what your shooting background is, but based on your comments it would seem that you are new to the game, and as such I would strongly suggest that you find some experienced precision long range shooters in your area to hook up with. I am in Louisville, so if you are close, give me a shout. If you are East or West, check the KY Hometown Forum, there are plenty of shooters there to hook up with. Most of the shooters I know will always welcome and help out the new guys as much as they can.
HANDS ON IT, I would hope that no one would ever buy a precision long range rifle without having had the chance to try it out. Per my comment above, hook up with the shooters in your area, and go to your local ranges and gun stores, and get your hands on anything you are thinking about buying to make sure IT WORKS FOR YOU!
Sorry, I am not trying to be a jerk, but if you are going to be serious about precision long range shooting, then you probably need to put the brakes on, do a lot more homework, make some local shooting connections, and get your hands on some stuff and shoot it before you jump in and spend your money on something that is not going to meet your needs.
Forums like this are a great place to learn, but IMHO you really need to try and get your feet wet first hand on a local level. Not to mention, drop the “Tacticool Scary Terminator” crap!
If you have specific questions that you can’t get an answer to, then by all means drop me a PM or Email and I will do everything I can to help you out. Please just make sure you are making an honest effort on your end.
Best of Luck,
M Richardson
3/1/2012 2:04:28 PM
might want to consider what you are going to do with the rifle.
I went with a semi auto 308 because I wanted to shoot long range and Heavy Tac in 3 gun. The gun fit both needs. I could not afford 2 rifles, good optics and reloading set ups with 2 rifles. So I bought one that fit both shoes.
+1 on the more research. Figure out what it is you are going to do with the rifle and go from there. If it's going to sit in a safe and get shot once a year, I would say find something that you will shoot more often and invest money in that.
I went with a semi auto 308 because I wanted to shoot long range and Heavy Tac in 3 gun. The gun fit both needs. I could not afford 2 rifles, good optics and reloading set ups with 2 rifles. So I bought one that fit both shoes.
+1 on the more research. Figure out what it is you are going to do with the rifle and go from there. If it's going to sit in a safe and get shot once a year, I would say find something that you will shoot more often and invest money in that.
