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New Spfld M1A or an old GI parts M1A
2/26/2012 9:43:31 PM
Call me stupid for selling the last two USGI M1A's I had many years ago. Now I sort of have the bug for one again. Have not looked at the recent production guns. Are they as good as the old ones or should I look for an old one with USGI parts?
2/26/2012 9:48:45 PM
When it comes to these guns the older the better.
2/26/2012 9:50:15 PM
my springfield M1A national match is about a year old, i shoot it often and have not had one problem. 
2/26/2012 9:50:21 PM
Definitely old one.
2/26/2012 10:03:57 PM
To me the pro for the old one is possibly better GI parts, the con is the possibly old worn out GI parts.
2/26/2012 10:36:54 PM
I am a former dissatisfied Springfield Armory M1A owner,
I am currently a happy LRB Arms M14SA owner.
2/27/2012 9:02:41 AM
Originally Posted By myitinaw:
I am a former dissatisfied Springfield Armory M1A owner,
I am currently a happy LRB Arms M14SA owner.
I am a former dissatisfied Springfield Armory M1A owner,
I am currently a happy LRB Arms M14SA owner.
Two years ago I got my M1A, I wish I had known of LRB.
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2/27/2012 4:24:38 PM
despite all this, you should remember that springfield honors their lifetime warranty.
if you do get a turd, they will make it right, one way or another. it will cost you time and effort though.
you can own a springfield for the rest of your life, if you are so inclined to do so.
if you do get a turd, they will make it right, one way or another. it will cost you time and effort though.
you can own a springfield for the rest of your life, if you are so inclined to do so.
2/27/2012 5:08:24 PM
I have had a few issues with my SAI M1A but they have always made it right, yes it's a real PITA to have to pack it up and send it back and in some cases multiple times for something that should have never left their factory. you have to understand that they produce large amounts of these rifles and some things do get overlooked but the fact is it's a lifetime warranty period !!!
2/28/2012 6:43:13 PM
Buy a CMP M14 A Parts Kit and an LRB Barreled receiver. You will have as close to USGI spec as you can ever get these days.
2/28/2012 6:53:36 PM
Go for the Cougar
3/1/2012 10:55:15 PM
Originally Posted By TokiWartooth:
Buy a CMP M14 A Parts Kit and an LRB Barreled receiver. You will have as close to USGI spec as you can ever get these days.
Buy a CMP M14 A Parts Kit and an LRB Barreled receiver. You will have as close to USGI spec as you can ever get these days.
That's what I did. My CMP kit came with excellent to pristine TRW parts, everything but the bolt. barrel, and receiver. I'm very happy with it.
3/4/2012 10:05:14 PM
Can you still get these kits from CMP? I looked at their website and couldn't find them.
3/4/2012 10:56:44 PM
Originally Posted By Toondaddy:
Can you still get these kits from CMP? I looked at their website and couldn't find them.
Can you still get these kits from CMP? I looked at their website and couldn't find them.
You have to go to the e-store. Click on the "surplus parts" icon to take you to the M14 kits. Create a screen name and password to buy stuff.
https://estore.odcmp.com/Store/login/login.aspx
3/7/2012 2:44:18 PM
My SAI M1A Standard has been accurate as can be at 1.5-2 MOA and has been run really hard without any problems. Guess I got lucky.
3/7/2012 11:54:28 PM
I got lucky and found a NIB M1A at a flea market in '06. It was
made in '96 and is all GI except the NM barrel. It's technically a loaded but Springfield said it made 1 year prior to the release of the loaded model.
made in '96 and is all GI except the NM barrel. It's technically a loaded but Springfield said it made 1 year prior to the release of the loaded model.
3/8/2012 11:23:42 AM
The SAI gi parts rifles I have owned have been good shooters. I would be cautious of gi parts installed by a previous owner and the quality of work. I still have a gi parts SA and a commercial parts SA, both have been great. The commercial rifle had to go back one time for a new bolt.
3/9/2012 12:57:01 AM
At $600 plus $22.95 S&H for the kit that, "...includes every semi-auto part except barrel, bolt and receiver.
Metallic parts will show signs of use and may have some minor rust or
pitting. Stocks may have some dents and dings and minor cracks. Stocks
may be walnut, hardwood, or synthetic. Item number is PSM1AKIT." Plus another $600 + for a barreled receiver and bolt and you may end up with nothing more than a beater M14 semi auto. You may get lucky and you may not. You may get a walnut stock and you may not.
Seems to me that a NIB Springer M1A is a more sure bet even though it uses commercial parts. I worked on M14s a ton in the Army back in the late 60's (had to keep over 340 of them going) and my new Springer M1A seems to be as tight and as any of my M14s were. For what the average user will put them through, I'm betting the new rifle with it's new barrel is more what the average Joe is looking to get. I got one and I'm glad I did.
Seems to me that a NIB Springer M1A is a more sure bet even though it uses commercial parts. I worked on M14s a ton in the Army back in the late 60's (had to keep over 340 of them going) and my new Springer M1A seems to be as tight and as any of my M14s were. For what the average user will put them through, I'm betting the new rifle with it's new barrel is more what the average Joe is looking to get. I got one and I'm glad I did.
3/9/2012 1:17:13 AM
Originally Posted By P08:
Call me stupid for selling the last two USGI M1A's I had many years ago. Now I sort of have the bug for one again. Have not looked at the recent production guns. Are they as good as the old ones or should I look for an old one with USGI parts?
Call me stupid for selling the last two USGI M1A's I had many years ago. Now I sort of have the bug for one again. Have not looked at the recent production guns. Are they as good as the old ones or should I look for an old one with USGI parts?
CMP has parts kits.
Oops, beat.
3/9/2012 1:20:00 AM
Originally Posted By COSteve:
At $600 plus $22.95 S&H for the kit that, "...includes every semi-auto part except barrel, bolt and receiver. Metallic parts will show signs of use and may have some minor rust or pitting. Stocks may have some dents and dings and minor cracks. Stocks may be walnut, hardwood, or synthetic. Item number is PSM1AKIT." Plus another $600 + for a barreled receiver and bolt and you may end up with nothing more than a beater M14 semi auto. You may get lucky and you may not. You may get a walnut stock and you may not.
Seems to me that a NIB Springer M1A is a more sure bet even though it uses commercial parts. I worked on M14s a ton in the Army back in the late 60's (had to keep over 340 of them going) and my new Springer M1A seems to be as tight and as any of my M14s were. For what the average user will put them through, I'm betting the new rifle with it's new barrel is more what the average Joe is looking to get. I got one and I'm glad I did.
At $600 plus $22.95 S&H for the kit that, "...includes every semi-auto part except barrel, bolt and receiver. Metallic parts will show signs of use and may have some minor rust or pitting. Stocks may have some dents and dings and minor cracks. Stocks may be walnut, hardwood, or synthetic. Item number is PSM1AKIT." Plus another $600 + for a barreled receiver and bolt and you may end up with nothing more than a beater M14 semi auto. You may get lucky and you may not. You may get a walnut stock and you may not.
Seems to me that a NIB Springer M1A is a more sure bet even though it uses commercial parts. I worked on M14s a ton in the Army back in the late 60's (had to keep over 340 of them going) and my new Springer M1A seems to be as tight and as any of my M14s were. For what the average user will put them through, I'm betting the new rifle with it's new barrel is more what the average Joe is looking to get. I got one and I'm glad I did.
Yeah, when you price it out, its not much or a deal. If it was complete, sans receiver, might be worth it. For now I'll keep building FN's. Need an M14 clone for the collection though.
3/10/2012 7:10:27 PM
I have two M1A's serial # 28XXX and 33XXX. Circa. 1982 and 1984 +/-. Both trigger group housings are pounded to shit. Yes, they are GI and they are still worn out. All makes of these trigger groups take a beating. I am always in the market for GI trigger group housings, just the housing, not the entire trigger group. They get peened where they slide into the receiver from below.
