Are there any kits still for sale/left?

I wanted to pick up an imbel kit from dsa, but those seem to have dried up. Anyone else have them?

http://e-sarcoinc.com/search.aspx?find=fal255

The best deal value on the net. These kits are NOS parts. Not military surplus.

Enterprise Arms has Imbel parts kits for $329 http://entreprise.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=30

and refinished for $429 http://entreprise.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=3

My parents ordered me the unrefinished kit for Christmas. Hopefully it will make a good battlefield build. I called Enterprise and they said they have a TE of 0, but the finish is bad on the $329 kits.

I bought an IMBEL kit. the finish is bad indeed (great for a BFPU) and the bore does look new. I'm trying hard not to get another one.

Argentine from Sarco for the win

One of these and a coonan or dsa receiver would be a quick route to a sub $1000 rifle it looks like...

I have built 8 IMBEL kits into working rifles. It has been my experience that they are either excellent shooters (2 to 3 MOA) or poor shooters (more than 4 MOA) There doesn't seem to be any in between with these. I did not take detailed notes for accurate comparison, but if forced at gun point to establish a percentage, I would state that 60% were excellent shooters.

buy mine - i need the cash: link

I was going to build a para fal folder off one of these sarco kits. Would this be a good start?

Excellent quality parts in brand new condition. I cannot imagine a better kit to use.

Do these kits have original barrels or are they US-Made?

Original. I wonder if they have an ample stock of them. Wanted to wait till I finished the FAL I'm building now, but I don't want to miss out on these parts.

How difficult is a build from one of these kits?

It sucks and is very difficult. With all the problems I have had I should have just bought a DSA from Aim.

Could you expand on this? What type are you building? From a kit or accumulated parts? Sorry to hear that.

If you have a good kit, a good reciever, propper tools, it goes together like an erector set. It took 1 weekend total from start to finish. It shoots well, and fuctions perfectly.

See this link: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_7/361347_Receiver_tap_and_die.html

thanks for the heads up. it's good to know what to watch out for. I pulled the trigger on a sarco kit today so we'll see what happens. Best of luck to you with yours.

Original NOS barrels.

Much cheaper just buy a complete rifle instead of building one especially if you just build one and need to acquire all the tools. Part kits and receivers are not cheap anymore and US parts are getting hard to find. How difficult? If you can build an AK, FAL is easy. If you ever built a G3/CETME, FAL is a piece of cake.

I just saw a couple on GunBroker

I ordered a kit from Enterprise but it hasn't showed up yet. Might be cheaper/easier/even better to just buy but want to learn how to build and know a great teacher (stimpson) that is willing to help!!

So you folks are telling me it's time to sell the $99 SA and G1 kits I have stashed away in the bunker?

FALs are easy to build if you have the right tools. An easy build takes about an hour; a more difficult build, if YOU don't screw it up, might take a few hours.

The SARCO Argentine kits are new parts, though not all finished the same; some are parked, some painted, so you may plan on painting it to match. One thing to note about these is that they are NEW. That means that they are tight; it's easier to assemble a worn out R1 kit than a brand new bunch of parts that have never been assembled.

If you ordered from Entreprise, good luck. Seems like they've had fulfillment problems lately. Word I heard is that if you ordered on-line call them to confirm otherwise your order will be lost in limbo.

I have a couple Imbel kits I'd be willing to sell and they include original barrel

You still want to attempt my T48? Finally got my BM wood. I'm shipping it out to get stamped with a DoD acceptance stamp, then gotta hit all the wood with some tung oil. Should be ready to assemble after that. What's the progress on the poly mags?

How hard is it to build an FAL as opposed to an AR?

AR on a scale of 1-10, a 2 IMO, an FAL a 4.

My opinion only. I'm hesitant to even give the AR a 2.....

I'm walking down the same road.

From what I can tell, so far, the building is essentially head spacing, fitting the locking shoulder and barrel timing. Beyond that it's no more difficult than piecing an AR together. Every kit will show some distinctive amount of wear and tear that will change the equation slightly. You can stay with the original finish from the kit or refinish to suit your direction.

It does require some specialized tools you can maybe source locally.

Depending on how far you want to go, build a shooter or source NOS parts for a 'fankenfal' build or get as close as realistically possible to original, most of the pieces are still available.

You'll want at least 3 FAL's... metric, inch and a para build.

Not quite as easy.

Getting the barrel timing correct can sometimes be a pain. Adjusting headspace, unless you do it ghetto style, is many orders of magnitude more difficult than on an AR. It also requires specifically sized parts (locking shoulder) that you must locate and purchase after you determine which size you need.

Building an FAL is actually quite simple if you have the right tools. Guys have built them in the back of their van and in rooms no bigger than a small closet.
You need a sturdy table with an vice, a FAL barrel vice & receiver wrench, some quality 7.62 NATO headspace gauges and the knowledge of how to properly assemble the FAL. A long time member here whom hangs out on the AK side mostly has an excellent workbook and DVD that shows you everything you need to know on how to assemble an FAL correctly.

As long as your barrel hand times properly you're good to go. Sometimes the bbl. shoulder has to be shaved and if you're not a machinist with your own machines or access to machines then you have to pay someone to take a thou or so off the shoulder.

The Gunplummber has a great instructional DVD/Video on what it takes to build one. It was some of the best money I have ever spent now that I have built up 8 or so rifles for friends and my own. As far as taking metal off of the barrel I just use a hand file. There is now way to take off to mush metal using NO ELECTRIC TOOLS.

What would STG kits be worth today? More if numbers match?

Is the Sarco Type IV kit the best I am going to find in terms of a readily available FAL kit? I'm ready to pull the trigger but want to make sure. They do not have muzzle breaks correct?

In my opinion it is the best value available. The quality of manufacture is excellent and the condition is new old stock. You can't get better than that. I am exceedingly pleased with the rifle that I built with the Argentine kit that I purchased from SARCO. I haven't yet broken the 2 inch group @ 100 yards with it yet, but I am so close to it that I know that with enough trigger time on this rifle that I can do it. I am absolutely convinced that the rifle is capable of doing it consistently.

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