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mclark202  [Member]
1/20/2012 1:08:57 AM
New member, committed to buying an ACOG even after I told him I was supposed to meet with someone the NEXT DAY to show it to them. He committed saying he would "definitely take it" and then the details were sent via PM. Addreses for money orders, and his address so I could ship it. He was supposed to send out a MO today and I sent the other person a message saying it was sold so cancelled the meet(which I am sure made him mad).

Got home tonight to a quick PM saying he was really sorry but has to pass on buying it.

Thanks, for backing out after it was probably sold.
crowboy  [Moderator]
1/20/2012 5:48:10 AM
Please post a link to the ad and all Commo's removing any personal info
mclark202  [Member]
1/20/2012 9:19:47 AM
Here is the ad.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_163/948247_Trijicon_ACOG_TA31DOC__800_shipped___updated_pics__BACK_FOR_SALE.html

Here are the PM's. Hoping this is done correctly.

Matt,

I will mark it SPF and get it boxed up. I will drop it off at the post office unless you would rather have UPS. I have had no issues with my post office. It DOES include the flat top mount.

ILooking forward to getting it to you.


I understand, ill will deffinately take it. going to go to the bank and get a money order. going to try for today 95% chance ill get it sent today. if not deffinately tommorow just depends on my work schedule. does come with the flat top mount though right? thanks alot and look forward to getting this.

***Personal info removed****

It does not come with any accessories just that docter mount that mounts to the back tabs. I'm sorry I don't have the pelican case or anything like that. Never used a lenspen, they are garbage anyways. I always use a small fine microfiber swab like designed for cleaning glasses to get smudges off the glass or whatever. Outside can be wiped with a wet rag, it's pretty damn bombproof!

I won't take paypal on this because I have been screwed with paypal in the past. Also you are a new member here so we need to get you some positive feedback.

My address is as follows:

***Personal info removed***

Please let me know FOR SURE that you want it so I can text this local guy as to not waste his time. I will also go ahead and get it boxed up and ready to go, just give me the shipping address. You will like it, it's nice and crisp and the price is good.

Thanks,

Mike

quote]ill take it. get me your adress and ill get the money order sent today or tommorow. does it come with the acessories? good shape besides scratches?thanks.
(why no paypal? can do as gift and theres no fees?)



$800 gets it shipped to you(assuming you are continental US). I will not take paypal on this, needs to be a money order(preferably postal). I can ship through UPS or USPS, your choice. I will get it there delivery confirmation/tracking.

If you want it let me know I will get you my address for sending the MO out.




ill give you 750 shipped. send the money soon as i hear back. to replave the plastic on the top cost 50 bucks so that would cover my cost on that.
thanks for yout time.

matt


Sorry gotta pass. Nothing needs to be replaced. The Docter optic mount comes with it. It's in great shape and I have someone coming to look at it tomorrow that is local. It's a red crosshair reticle. Google TA31DOC reticle or check out the trijicon sight.

Thanks,


will you do the 800 today? ship ups? let me know i can do that, was under the impression the top was more messed up. usually people make things sound better than they are. let me know, also do you have the case and lens pen and all the goodies?

Mike[/quotead as]



















rcb1586  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 10:19:27 AM
Originally Posted By mclark202:
Here is the ad.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_163/948247_Trijicon_ACOG_TA31DOC__800_shipped___updated_pics__BACK_FOR_SALE.html

Here are the PM's. Hoping this is done correctly.

Matt,

I will mark it SPF and get it boxed up. I will drop it off at the post office unless you would rather have UPS. I have had no issues with my post office. It DOES include the flat top mount.

ILooking forward to getting it to you.



I understand, ill will deffinately take it. going to go to the bank and get a money order. going to try for today 95% chance ill get it sent today. if not deffinately tommorow just depends on my work schedule. does come with the flat top mount though right? thanks alot and look forward to getting this.


***Personal info removed****

It does not come with any accessories just that docter mount that mounts to the back tabs. I'm sorry I don't have the pelican case or anything like that. Never used a lenspen, they are garbage anyways. I always use a small fine microfiber swab like designed for cleaning glasses to get smudges off the glass or whatever. Outside can be wiped with a wet rag, it's pretty damn bombproof!

I won't take paypal on this because I have been screwed with paypal in the past. Also you are a new member here so we need to get you some positive feedback.

My address is as follows:

***Personal info removed***

Please let me know FOR SURE that you want it so I can text this local guy as to not waste his time. I will also go ahead and get it boxed up and ready to go, just give me the shipping address. You will like it, it's nice and crisp and the price is good.

Thanks,

Mike


quote]ill take it. get me your adress and ill get the money order sent today or tommorow. does it come with the acessories? good shape besides scratches?thanks.
(why no paypal? can do as gift and theres no fees?)




$800 gets it shipped to you(assuming you are continental US). I will not take paypal on this, needs to be a money order(preferably postal). I can ship through UPS or USPS, your choice. I will get it there delivery confirmation/tracking.

If you want it let me know I will get you my address for sending the MO out.





ill give you 750 shipped. send the money soon as i hear back. to replave the plastic on the top cost 50 bucks so that would cover my cost on that.
thanks for yout time.

matt



Sorry gotta pass. Nothing needs to be replaced. The Docter optic mount comes with it. It's in great shape and I have someone coming to look at it tomorrow that is local. It's a red crosshair reticle. Google TA31DOC reticle or check out the trijicon sight.

Thanks,



will you do the 800 today? ship ups? let me know i can do that, was under the impression the top was more messed up. usually people make things sound better than they are. let me know, also do you have the case and lens pen and all the goodies?

Mike






















I tried to clean it up a little bit for you.

You should probably post the IM where he backs out of the deal also.



mclark202  [Member]
1/20/2012 12:20:59 PM
Sorry thought I had it in there. I apologise not good at this copying and pasting stuff and it has been years since I have had to post a neg.

Here is the back out:

Really hate to do this but gonna pass on the scope, got in a car accident on my way home and now have to come up with 500 dollars for that. Hate to do this but figured if I let you know ASAP you could let the other guys know. I'm very sorry and if you still have it when I get paid I will gladly buy it. Sorry once again
Thanks
Matt

crowboy  [Moderator]
1/20/2012 6:29:16 PM
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_163/948247_Trijicon_ACOG_TA31DOC__800_shipped___updated_pics__BACK_FOR_SALE.html

I have sent him an email with link
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mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 7:01:35 PM
LIke i told him i am very sorry for the inconvenience, wish i didnt have to back out, belive me. if he would of taken paypal i could of used my card and been no problem i know he didnt want to and i understand that. i know this looks bad on my part, cant argue i would be pissed as well as i have had deals go bad on me. could of waited a week and just not sent the money order, gave him as quick of notice that i could, thought that would be the right thing to do!! that the beauty of paypal, when the money is paid,nothing else that matters. Life throws curve balls at times, just wish some people were more understanding.

–––––– for those who dont want a deal ill try and earn some positive feedback. if i am wanting to buy something and its paypal send me the paypal and ill get the money and just dont consdier it sold until its in the bank. i know i am new to the forum and have bought tons of things on other forums.

dont know how to post pictures but i can send anyone one of my wrecked car that doesnt believe me
titleiiredneck  [Team Member]
1/20/2012 7:33:15 PM
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
LIke i told him i am very sorry for the inconvenience, wish i didnt have to back out, belive me. if he would of taken paypal i could of used my card and been no problem i know he didnt want to and i understand that. i know this looks bad on my part, cant argue i would be pissed as well as i have had deals go bad on me. could of waited a week and just not sent the money order, gave him as quick of notice that i could, thought that would be the right thing to do!! that the beauty of paypal, when the money is paid,nothing else that matters. Life throws curve balls at times, just wish some people were more understanding.

末末末 for those who dont want a deal ill try and earn some positive feedback. if i am wanting to buy something and its paypal send me the paypal and ill get the money and just dont consdier it sold until its in the bank. i know i am new to the forum and have bought tons of things on other forums.

dont know how to post pictures but i can send anyone one of my wrecked car that doesnt believe me



Adios!
crowboy  [Moderator]
1/20/2012 7:34:38 PM
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
LIke i told him i am very sorry for the inconvenience, wish i didnt have to back out, belive me. if he would of taken paypal i could of used my card and been no problem i know he didnt want to and i understand that. i know this looks bad on my part, cant argue i would be pissed as well as i have had deals go bad on me. could of waited a week and just not sent the money order, gave him as quick of notice that i could, thought that would be the right thing to do!! that the beauty of paypal, when the money is paid,nothing else that matters. Life throws curve balls at times, just wish some people were more understanding.

末末末 for those who dont want a deal ill try and earn some positive feedback. if i am wanting to buy something and its paypal send me the paypal and ill get the money and just dont consdier it sold until its in the bank. i know i am new to the forum and have bought tons of things on other forums.

dont know how to post pictures but i can send anyone one of my wrecked car that doesnt believe me



Wrecked cars or not if you say " I will take it " you must follow through period. And When you welch on the EE you are gone, we have a O tolerance policy on welching. If you do not follow through on this deal your account will be locked.
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 7:46:02 PM
ok lock it out. thanks
crowboy  [Moderator]
1/20/2012 7:50:41 PM
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
ok lock it out. thanks


As you wish
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:02:29 PM
Actually I'll send the money. Monday, should have it by friday
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:05:17 PM
Didn't know the structure here. I like the strictnesa, how do I make sure the deal is still going through
ds762  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:18:05 PM
how is mattgdow supposed to fulfill his committment to purchase when the OP has put it back up for sale and another has committed to purchase?

ETA: NOT knocking on the OP (I don't blame him a bit for relisting)
juliomorris  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:33:27 PM
Originally Posted By ds762:
how is mattgdow supposed to fulfill his committment to purchase when the OP has put it back up for sale and another has committed to purchase?

ETA: NOT knocking on the OP (I don't blame him a bit for relisting)


+1 the seller needs to be able to make good. But then again you really can't blame the buyer for relisting I'm not sure I would want to count the buyer sending the money on mionday either...We have been having alot of these lately....
mclark202  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:40:45 PM
Yes the item was re listed and sold to one of the others thst were originally interested. Guess it worked out well anyways.
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:42:39 PM
Maybe the seller should of told me also. Didn't know it was turning into this. I'll send the money Monday. I have not been dishonest about and I'll send the money. I'll send a picture of his money order on Monday. he could of told me he was going to report this. I am new and had no idea this was going to happen. Shouldn't I get a chance to fulfill my end? Hasn't even been a day.
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:46:35 PM
The seller should of i'm me before posting a bad buyer. and knowing the procedure what it is now...... It would not of got this fae


ds762  [Member]
1/20/2012 8:49:13 PM
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
Maybe the seller should of told me also. Didn't know it was turning into this. I'll send the money Monday. I have not been dishonest about and I'll send the money. I'll send a picture of his money order on Monday. he could of told me he was going to report this. I am new and had no idea this was going to happen. Shouldn't I get a chance to fulfill my end? Hasn't even been a day.


should have told you what?

try reading the EE rules before committing as a seller or a buyer!

a welch is a welch ..

juliomorris  [Member]
1/20/2012 9:05:06 PM
Originally Posted By ds762:
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
Maybe the seller should of told me also. Didn't know it was turning into this. I'll send the money Monday. I have not been dishonest about and I'll send the money. I'll send a picture of his money order on Monday. he could of told me he was going to report this. I am new and had no idea this was going to happen. Shouldn't I get a chance to fulfill my end? Hasn't even been a day.


should have told you what?

try reading the EE rules before committing as a seller or a buyer!

a welch is a welch ..




+1

mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 9:08:39 PM
you should of told me if I don't pay your going to make me a Welch. No communication from you is not good. Shouldn't of posted it again. Had a ruff day yesterday, trying to make good on it but I guess you already sold it? So good for you. I think I tried to make it right. And was willing. You pro ably would take my money if you haven't sold .
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 9:12:03 PM
You all can agree. You don't know me or my situation. Call me a Welch. Could of not responded said screw it but I didn't.
Thanks
ds762  [Member]
1/20/2012 9:31:13 PM
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
You all can agree. You don't know me or my situation. Call me a Welch. Could of not responded said screw it but I didn't.
Thanks


NO I don't know you .. and your situation with your car doesn't excuse your committment.
Not responding would not have went over well ..

Originally Posted By mattgdow:
you should of told me if I don't pay your going to make me a Welch. No communication from you is not good. Shouldn't of posted it again. Had a ruff day yesterday, trying to make good on it but I guess you already sold it? So good for you. I think I tried to make it right. And was willing. You pro ably would take my money if you haven't sold .


You should have known that from reading the EE RULES posted at the top!
Seller was trying to .. well you know .. SELL something that YOU WELCHED on. Why should he not relist something when you come up with excuses to withdrawl from an agreed upon sale?
Maybe so but thats life.
Your logic of "making things right" is a little off kilter .. you only offered to fulfill once an account lock comment came into play .. which you asked for and then all of a sudden had a change of heart ??
mattgdow  [Member]
1/20/2012 9:56:16 PM
Like how everyone gets involved. should of not replied that would of been better I guess.
ds762  [Member]
1/20/2012 10:06:01 PM
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
Like how everyone gets involved. should of not replied that would of been better I guess.


we are all free to give an opinion .. like I said before not responding would have been a poor choice on your part.

Let me explain this a little bit .. the EE works because people ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their actions .. otherwise people would be screwing others over constantly to the tune of several thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
You WELCHED in direct violation of the rules in place .. your ignorance (lack of knowledge) of the rules does not excuse you from them.
crowboy  [Moderator]
1/21/2012 6:49:42 AM
Originally Posted By ds762:
Originally Posted By mattgdow:
Like how everyone gets involved. should of not replied that would of been better I guess.


we are all free to give an opinion .. like I said before not responding would have been a poor choice on your part.

Let me explain this a little bit .. the EE works because people ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their actions .. otherwise people would be screwing others over constantly to the tune of several thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
You WELCHED in direct violation of the rules in place .. your ignorance (lack of knowledge) of the rules does not excuse you from them.


This^
The EE only works because of our Honor. If we say I will take it or as a seller if we say its yours we must follow through. Mattgdow, you welched and after I gave you the options went so far as to say in this thread that we should lock your account. The seller does have the right to move on. Because you did change your mind and made the attempt to step up you will not receive an account lock but a -1 for welching on your account. As to members chiming in, providing it stays civil all members are welcome to participate in feedback threads.
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1/21/2012 7:02:02 AM
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