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darealickt
3/8/2012 9:06:03 PM
I'm having an issue with a barrel I bought from darealickt here.
I purchased
Here is my initial PM to him and and response, the rest were emails. Please note I made a mistake reading the description of the barrel and intially thought it was chrome lined, thats why my initial post is written as such.
Did you read the description of the only barrel I have left? It is a factory stainless steel barrel that has a black gun-kote finish on it. It is not chrome lined.
Please email me at: L*****@gmail.com if you are still interested. If you want this blacked out stainless barrel for $300, I will sell it to you for that price.
I messaged him back to this but he responded to the email I sent right after instead. Here are the emails.
Never did he mention damage to the gas tube.
Most of this message can be ignored as I ended up selling a high dollar item and sent him payment that night.
This post can be ignored as well.
Fast forward to today, I receive the barrel and the gas tube is severely damaged. The pictures don't do it justice, on each side the metal is actually folded down into the tube. It looks like something got in between the gay key and the tube and beat it to hell.
I emailed and texted the seller and in one of his texts he stated
and....
This to me confirms he knew about this. Despite it I tried to play nice and give him the benefit of the doubt even after he sent me those texts that he may have sent it out not knowing of the damage. I just don't see how anybody can NOT think that's damaged or at the very least feel it deserves letting the buyer know who has asked TWICE about any damage. It also appears the roll pin for the gas tube may have been recently removed and or installed. I also took a picture to note the damage to the finish on the bottom of the barrel. I'm not concerned with this but it still would have been nice to know.
Pics:
So now I get to wait for David to refund me at his leasure
I purchased
SOLD Middle: Blacked out 16" stainless factory LMT, 1000rds fired, 5.56mm, 1/7" twist, A2 flash hider. $325 SOLD
Here is my initial PM to him and and response, the rest were emails. Please note I made a mistake reading the description of the barrel and intially thought it was chrome lined, thats why my initial post is written as such.
I'll give you $300 shipped for the 16" chrome lined barrel as long as its factory LMT and is not damaged (cosmetic wear is fine). I can buy a brand new one for under $350 with free shipping I would just prefer not to wait 2-3 weeks.
Did you read the description of the only barrel I have left? It is a factory stainless steel barrel that has a black gun-kote finish on it. It is not chrome lined.
Please email me at: L*****@gmail.com if you are still interested. If you want this blacked out stainless barrel for $300, I will sell it to you for that price.
I messaged him back to this but he responded to the email I sent right after instead. Here are the emails.
From: r*****@aol.com
To: <L*****@gmail.com>
Subject: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 6:34 pm
Hi this is 300ultramag from arfcom. Disregard my PM I sent back. As
long as the barrel only has 1000 rounds through it, it shoots good, and
is not damaged in any way I'll take it for $300. I don't mind cosmetic
wear as long as there's no damage to the chamber or bore.
How would you like to be paid?
To: <L*****@gmail.com>
Subject: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 6:34 pm
Hi this is 300ultramag from arfcom. Disregard my PM I sent back. As
long as the barrel only has 1000 rounds through it, it shoots good, and
is not damaged in any way I'll take it for $300. I don't mind cosmetic
wear as long as there's no damage to the chamber or bore.
How would you like to be paid?
From: *****@gmail.com>
To: ******@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Bore looks great. Shoots as good as the day i got it.
You can send the $300 as a Paypal "gift" under the "personal" tab so I
incur no fees. Or, a second option is a USPS Money Order. Paypal
address is:
*****@yahoo.com
To: ******@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Bore looks great. Shoots as good as the day i got it.
You can send the $300 as a Paypal "gift" under the "personal" tab so I
incur no fees. Or, a second option is a USPS Money Order. Paypal
address is:
*****@yahoo.com
Never did he mention damage to the gas tube.
From:*****@aol.com
To: *****@gmail.com>
Subject: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 7:30 pm
Sounds good. I'll go ahead and put in for a transfer from my savings to
my checking account right now which should just take a couple days.
After that I can just send it right over and it will deduct it from my
bank account so no need for it to transfer from there to my paypal
account.
I'll let you know once it's sent. My address is:
BLANK
I'll go ahead and say "I'll take it" in the thread so we can leave each
other feedback when its all said and done.
To: *****@gmail.com>
Subject: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 7:30 pm
Sounds good. I'll go ahead and put in for a transfer from my savings to
my checking account right now which should just take a couple days.
After that I can just send it right over and it will deduct it from my
bank account so no need for it to transfer from there to my paypal
account.
I'll let you know once it's sent. My address is:
BLANK
I'll go ahead and say "I'll take it" in the thread so we can leave each
other feedback when its all said and done.
Most of this message can be ignored as I ended up selling a high dollar item and sent him payment that night.
From:*****@gmail.com>
To:*****@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Im not sure I understand. So, you are going to pay via Paypal, but you
will do it in a couple days...?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone
To:*****@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Im not sure I understand. So, you are going to pay via Paypal, but you
will do it in a couple days...?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone
This post can be ignored as well.
From:*****@aol.com
To: *****@gmail.com>
Subject: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:14 pm
$300 sent.
To: *****@gmail.com>
Subject: LMT MRP 16" blacked out SS barrel
Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 8:14 pm
$300 sent.
From:lmtmrp <lmtmrp@gmail.com>
To:redneckbmxer24 <redneckbmxer24@aol.com>
Date:Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:21 am
Got it. Sorry for the confusion in that last email. I was dosing off to sleep after eating way too much for dinner and couldn't fully process what you were trying to say.
Thanks for being so quick with the payment. I will pack the barrel up tomorrow and get it shipped out on Saturday.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone
To:redneckbmxer24 <redneckbmxer24@aol.com>
Date:Fri, Mar 2, 2012 12:21 am
Got it. Sorry for the confusion in that last email. I was dosing off to sleep after eating way too much for dinner and couldn't fully process what you were trying to say.
Thanks for being so quick with the payment. I will pack the barrel up tomorrow and get it shipped out on Saturday.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone
Fast forward to today, I receive the barrel and the gas tube is severely damaged. The pictures don't do it justice, on each side the metal is actually folded down into the tube. It looks like something got in between the gay key and the tube and beat it to hell.
I emailed and texted the seller and in one of his texts he stated
Ok. I see the damage to the tube opening, but it never caused any function problems for me.
and....
Jeez. I guess everyone has different opinions about what is and what is not damage. I can tell that you obviously already have your mind set on a refund.
This to me confirms he knew about this. Despite it I tried to play nice and give him the benefit of the doubt even after he sent me those texts that he may have sent it out not knowing of the damage. I just don't see how anybody can NOT think that's damaged or at the very least feel it deserves letting the buyer know who has asked TWICE about any damage. It also appears the roll pin for the gas tube may have been recently removed and or installed. I also took a picture to note the damage to the finish on the bottom of the barrel. I'm not concerned with this but it still would have been nice to know.
Pics:
So now I get to wait for David to refund me at his leasure
3/8/2012 9:37:54 PM
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
3/8/2012 9:55:14 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
If you sent the money as a gift you're not going to get anything back from them.
3/8/2012 10:41:37 PM
Why not just get a refund for the cost of a gas tube, and replace it?
3/8/2012 10:51:57 PM
Originally Posted By williammunny:
Why not just get a refund for the cost of a gas tube, and replace it?
Why not just get a refund for the cost of a gas tube, and replace it?
If he hid something like this that is blatantly obvious from the description of the item I don't trust that there is nothing else wrong with the barrel. I want my money refunded in full.
3/9/2012 5:22:24 AM
I have sent him an email with link
3/9/2012 8:26:56 AM
I made him aware of the thread via text and he expressed that he has no interest in posting in it.
3/9/2012 10:03:23 AM
ETA: just looked in the ad, disreguard. 
I agree with Rob below.
I agree with Rob below.
3/9/2012 10:13:52 AM
Originally Posted By ARogueNinja:
Edit
Edit
Nvm
3/9/2012 10:48:04 AM
Everything I have been selling on AR15.com lately is to pay bills, therefore, I did not have the $300 to Paypal back to him at the time he brought this to my attention. I offered to refund his money within a half hour of him bringing this to my attention, but said I would not be able to do so until Monday morning. He said this was unacceptable to him. I get paid today (Friday) but can't make it to the bank to deposit my check till Saturday, so I texted him that I would refund it on Saturday, and he responded with, "That will not satisfy me". ARFcommers, how am I supposed to deal with and trust someone who is not ok with getting a full refund within 48 hours of bringing the issue to my attention. He has stated that he is pissed and doesn't trust me, so how am I supposed to trust that he will send the barrel back in the condition he received it AFTER I have issued the refund? I still have no problem refunding his money, but I want to make sure he does nothing underhanded in retaliation. Judging by his texts and quick excitation to anger, I find it hard to believe he will do things on the up-and-up from here on out.
3/9/2012 11:05:20 AM
IMO, the wear is cosmetic. Those dings in the gas tube end aren't going to affect function.
Assuming the bore is great (as promised by seller) I would ask for a refund for the cost of a new gas tube and let it be.
Assuming the bore is great (as promised by seller) I would ask for a refund for the cost of a new gas tube and let it be.
3/9/2012 11:05:30 AM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
Noon eastern time is 7am in Honolulu, HI. We are currently 5 hours behind the east coast time. On Sunday morning, March 11, CONUS sets their clocks ahead one hour, but Hawaii does not. So, on Sunday morning, Hawaii will be 6 hours behind eastern time.
Setting a deadline of noon eastern time is not realistic because my bank does not open it's doors till 10am Hawaii time, which will be 3pm eastern time.
3/9/2012 11:21:00 AM
There seems to be trust issues from both sides. One option to help out both can be to use a middle man. Send middle man barrel with additional money. Refund money. Send barrel to seller. Everyone goes on their merry way. All is well.
For the OP...ask for pictures, LOTS of pictures, when buying used or from anyone that is not a business. It will clear up the issues before they're started.
Edit- +1 for what rob78 said.
For the OP...ask for pictures, LOTS of pictures, when buying used or from anyone that is not a business. It will clear up the issues before they're started.
Edit- +1 for what rob78 said.
3/9/2012 11:48:02 AM
Originally Posted By rob78:
IMO, the wear is cosmetic. Those dings in the gas tube end aren't going to affect function.
Assuming the bore is great (as promised by seller) I would ask for a refund for the cost of a new gas tube and let it be.
IMO, the wear is cosmetic. Those dings in the gas tube end aren't going to affect function.
Assuming the bore is great (as promised by seller) I would ask for a refund for the cost of a new gas tube and let it be.
This!
3/9/2012 2:57:11 PM
Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
This!
Originally Posted By rob78:
IMO, the wear is cosmetic. Those dings in the gas tube end aren't going to affect function.
Assuming the bore is great (as promised by seller) I would ask for a refund for the cost of a new gas tube and let it be.
IMO, the wear is cosmetic. Those dings in the gas tube end aren't going to affect function.
Assuming the bore is great (as promised by seller) I would ask for a refund for the cost of a new gas tube and let it be.
This!
+1
3/9/2012 4:46:58 PM
You're nuts if you think the damage to the gas tube is cosmetic. I have a LMT M4 upper with 6-7K rounds through it which is 6-7 times what this barrel supposedly has and the end of the gas tube is still perfectly uniform like the day I bought it.
It's damaged and it should have been mentioned in the sale especially since the seller seemed to have previous knowledge of it. I asked twice about damage to the barrel assembly and nothing was ever mentioned.
What is funny is I have PM's from a guy who asked me if this was resolved and stated he is interested in buying an item the seller has for sale but he feels the seller is being hesitant to provide him the pictures he's asking for.
I understand that shit happens and I also understand one persons definition of the condition may be completely different from anothers but there is no arguing that the gas tube is damaged, thats not cosmetic and should have been documented in the sale with a picture or two. It would have saved him $40 in shipping had he simply done that. When I list something and there is any question of wear I be sure to take plenty of pictures and let the buyer judge for themselves. NEVER have I had a complaint about the condition of a item I have sold, in fact most people that buys stuff from me says that its better than they thought. I also try to keep the funds on hand in paypal when paid via paypal until the transaction is finalized, IF I remove them from paypal I always make sure there is sufficient funds in my bank account should I need to do a refund.
It seems the seller is going to refund me tomorrow by noon his time, 5pm my time. As long as he follows through no negative feedback will be left.
It's damaged and it should have been mentioned in the sale especially since the seller seemed to have previous knowledge of it. I asked twice about damage to the barrel assembly and nothing was ever mentioned.
What is funny is I have PM's from a guy who asked me if this was resolved and stated he is interested in buying an item the seller has for sale but he feels the seller is being hesitant to provide him the pictures he's asking for.
I understand that shit happens and I also understand one persons definition of the condition may be completely different from anothers but there is no arguing that the gas tube is damaged, thats not cosmetic and should have been documented in the sale with a picture or two. It would have saved him $40 in shipping had he simply done that. When I list something and there is any question of wear I be sure to take plenty of pictures and let the buyer judge for themselves. NEVER have I had a complaint about the condition of a item I have sold, in fact most people that buys stuff from me says that its better than they thought. I also try to keep the funds on hand in paypal when paid via paypal until the transaction is finalized, IF I remove them from paypal I always make sure there is sufficient funds in my bank account should I need to do a refund.
It seems the seller is going to refund me tomorrow by noon his time, 5pm my time. As long as he follows through no negative feedback will be left.
3/9/2012 5:09:39 PM
I believe they're talking about the front of the gas tube, where the roll pin was tapped in. That's cosmetic and a non event. The marks on the barrel are from hitting it against the edge of the upper when installing it. I've done that to mine too. Again, a non event.
However, the other end of the tube is bad though and warrants a new gas tube. Ultimately if you're not willing to have him pay for the parts to replace it then it should be returned for a full refund. Which it looks like he will do asap monday/tuesday.
However, the other end of the tube is bad though and warrants a new gas tube. Ultimately if you're not willing to have him pay for the parts to replace it then it should be returned for a full refund. Which it looks like he will do asap monday/tuesday.
3/9/2012 7:37:13 PM
Originally Posted By darealickt:
Noon eastern time is 7am in Honolulu, HI. We are currently 5 hours behind the east coast time. On Sunday morning, March 11, CONUS sets their clocks ahead one hour, but Hawaii does not. So, on Sunday morning, Hawaii will be 6 hours behind eastern time.
Setting a deadline of noon eastern time is not realistic because my bank does not open it's doors till 10am Hawaii time, which will be 3pm eastern time.
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
Seller originally said he would refund my money Saturday morning I could ship after now he is saying he will not refund my money until he receives the barrel back. At this point I do not trust him with my money as I did once and look where it got me.
If I have not received a $300 refund plus $17.45 shipping by Saturday 3/10/12 at noon eastern standard time I will be starting a dispute with paypal. They will fuck both of us for selling a gun part and lock our accounts but I'd rather have my $300 back and no paypal than be out of $300 and have a fucked up barrel.
Noon eastern time is 7am in Honolulu, HI. We are currently 5 hours behind the east coast time. On Sunday morning, March 11, CONUS sets their clocks ahead one hour, but Hawaii does not. So, on Sunday morning, Hawaii will be 6 hours behind eastern time.
Setting a deadline of noon eastern time is not realistic because my bank does not open it's doors till 10am Hawaii time, which will be 3pm eastern time.
Disputing this with paypal while we are all working on this is a bad idea. My first suggestion is for the seller to buy the OP a new gas tube and call it a day. If that will not work and the seller is willing to refund the purchase price we will most certainly give him a couple of days to get that done. both parties have good feedback so lets have some trust and get this done. OP are you willing to get a new gas tube or are you on a mission to get a full refund?
3/9/2012 9:47:43 PM
Originally Posted By crowboy:
Disputing this with paypal while we are all working on this is a bad idea. My first suggestion is for the seller to buy the OP a new gas tube and call it a day. If that will not work and the seller is willing to refund the purchase price we will most certainly give him a couple of days to get that done. both parties have good feedback so lets have some trust and get this done. OP are you willing to get a new gas tube or are you on a mission to get a full refund?
Disputing this with paypal while we are all working on this is a bad idea. My first suggestion is for the seller to buy the OP a new gas tube and call it a day. If that will not work and the seller is willing to refund the purchase price we will most certainly give him a couple of days to get that done. both parties have good feedback so lets have some trust and get this done. OP are you willing to get a new gas tube or are you on a mission to get a full refund?
I want a full refund.
3/9/2012 9:55:31 PM
nvm
3/10/2012 7:24:10 AM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
I want a full refund.
Originally Posted By crowboy:
Disputing this with paypal while we are all working on this is a bad idea. My first suggestion is for the seller to buy the OP a new gas tube and call it a day. If that will not work and the seller is willing to refund the purchase price we will most certainly give him a couple of days to get that done. both parties have good feedback so lets have some trust and get this done. OP are you willing to get a new gas tube or are you on a mission to get a full refund?
Disputing this with paypal while we are all working on this is a bad idea. My first suggestion is for the seller to buy the OP a new gas tube and call it a day. If that will not work and the seller is willing to refund the purchase price we will most certainly give him a couple of days to get that done. both parties have good feedback so lets have some trust and get this done. OP are you willing to get a new gas tube or are you on a mission to get a full refund?
I want a full refund.
If the problem here is the gas tube why wouldn't you accept a new gas tube ? Darealickt are you prepared to give a refund ?
3/10/2012 7:36:05 AM
Tag
3/10/2012 8:03:34 AM
If the gas tube is the only real problem why not just take a refund for the gas tube and roll pin?
3/10/2012 8:22:14 AM
Originally Posted By flashbag:
Good question was the refund never issued?
And if the gas tube is the only real problem why not just take a refund for the gas tube and roll pin?
Originally Posted By scoutfsu99:
was there a reason this was reopened today? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/963287_TBD_300ultramag___Pending.html
was there a reason this was reopened today? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/963287_TBD_300ultramag___Pending.html
Good question was the refund never issued?
And if the gas tube is the only real problem why not just take a refund for the gas tube and roll pin?
There is a LONG story behind that other feedback thread, but please guys lets not bring that one in here, crowboy has enough to deal with already.
3/10/2012 8:55:26 AM
There is some serious 
between the two threads.
between the two threads.3/10/2012 10:05:08 AM
I am only prepared to refund half the money until I receive the barrel back. I can paypal half the money before 5pm Eastern time today, and the other half when I receive the barrel. The only other option is to get a third party involved.
I have been on AR15.com for a long time, and have never had a situation even close to this. The buyer seems to escalate his level of anger at an exponential rate, and I truly fear he will retaliate on me in the only way possible: by damaging the barrel. This is why I want to do it half now, half later.
I have been on AR15.com for a long time, and have never had a situation even close to this. The buyer seems to escalate his level of anger at an exponential rate, and I truly fear he will retaliate on me in the only way possible: by damaging the barrel. This is why I want to do it half now, half later.
3/10/2012 3:36:02 PM
Originally Posted By darealickt:
I am only prepared to refund half the money until I receive the barrel back. I can paypal half the money before 5pm Eastern time today, and the other half when I receive the barrel. The only other option is to get a third party involved.
I have been on AR15.com for a long time, and have never had a situation even close to this. The buyer seems to escalate his level of anger at an exponential rate, and I truly fear he will retaliate on me in the only way possible: by damaging the barrel. This is why I want to do it half now, half later.
I am only prepared to refund half the money until I receive the barrel back. I can paypal half the money before 5pm Eastern time today, and the other half when I receive the barrel. The only other option is to get a third party involved.
I have been on AR15.com for a long time, and have never had a situation even close to this. The buyer seems to escalate his level of anger at an exponential rate, and I truly fear he will retaliate on me in the only way possible: by damaging the barrel. This is why I want to do it half now, half later.
This is acceptable to me
3/10/2012 3:45:14 PM
Originally Posted By crowboy:
This is acceptable to me
Originally Posted By darealickt:
I am only prepared to refund half the money until I receive the barrel back. I can paypal half the money before 5pm Eastern time today, and the other half when I receive the barrel. The only other option is to get a third party involved.
I have been on AR15.com for a long time, and have never had a situation even close to this. The buyer seems to escalate his level of anger at an exponential rate, and I truly fear he will retaliate on me in the only way possible: by damaging the barrel. This is why I want to do it half now, half later.
I am only prepared to refund half the money until I receive the barrel back. I can paypal half the money before 5pm Eastern time today, and the other half when I receive the barrel. The only other option is to get a third party involved.
I have been on AR15.com for a long time, and have never had a situation even close to this. The buyer seems to escalate his level of anger at an exponential rate, and I truly fear he will retaliate on me in the only way possible: by damaging the barrel. This is why I want to do it half now, half later.
This is acceptable to me
Thank you.
3/10/2012 4:53:57 PM
$150 has been sent.
3/10/2012 6:03:21 PM
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
3/10/2012 6:18:38 PM
Crowboy, you have a PM.
3/10/2012 6:42:07 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
First off I feel you should have accepted a new gas tube and called it a day but you seem to be hell bent on being difficult so, here is my decision, He has sent you $150 and I assure you the bal will be paid as long as the barrel is received back in the same condition you received it. If you fail to ship the barrel and or you start a dispute with paypal you will face an account problem here on the site. I feel that you are being much more difficult than this issue requires. Its your choice, send the barrel back or you will receive an account lock.
3/10/2012 6:44:45 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised he would pull this shit once I sent half the money. Even though you brought this issue to the mods and the feedback forum via this thread, and a mod in this forum suggested my solution as being a fair one, you state once again that YOUR WAY IS THE ONLY WAY. What a piece of work.
3/10/2012 6:50:04 PM
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
3/10/2012 6:50:39 PM
Originally Posted By crowboy:
First off I feel you should have accepted a new gas tube and called it a day but you seem to be hell bent on being difficult so, here is my decision, He has sent you $150 and I assure you the bal will be paid as long as the barrel is received back in the same condition you received it. If you fail to ship the barrel and or you start a dispute with paypal you will face an account problem here on the site. I feel that you are being much more difficult than this issue requires. Its your choice, send the barrel back or you will receive an account lock.
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
What is my guarantee you won't pull some crap and say you received the barrel damaged? You already tried to screw me once, it won't happen twice. As I said before the barrel will not ship until I'm paid IN FULL plus charges for shipping. I'm taking no chance in being out of cash because you sent me a barrel that was damaged after I specifically asked you about damage twice.
When I have $300.00 plus sufficient funds to ship it whichever method you want it shipped the barrel will be shipped and not until then. You played me once, you're not going to get the chance to do it twice.
First off I feel you should have accepted a new gas tube and called it a day but you seem to be hell bent on being difficult so, here is my decision, He has sent you $150 and I assure you the bal will be paid as long as the barrel is received back in the same condition you received it. If you fail to ship the barrel and or you start a dispute with paypal you will face an account problem here on the site. I feel that you are being much more difficult than this issue requires. Its your choice, send the barrel back or you will receive an account lock.
Thank you
3/10/2012 7:06:56 PM
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
3/10/2012 7:19:11 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
As you wish. This is going to staff
3/10/2012 7:26:21 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
And there you have it. I guess an account lock is in order, Crowboy.
3/10/2012 7:33:19 PM
all this over a ginged gas tube that is easily over looked. Rum you should have taken the new gas tube because I'm betting alot of people won't want to do business with you after this one..
3/10/2012 7:37:59 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
3/10/2012 7:39:20 PM
Originally Posted By juliomorris:
all this over a ginged gas tube that is easily over looked. Rum you should have taken the new gas tube because I'm betting alot of people won't want to do business with you after this one..
all this over a ginged gas tube that is easily over looked. Rum you should have taken the new gas tube because I'm betting alot of people won't want to do business with you after this one..
You can add me firmly to that corner.
300's attitude in this and the other thread sealed the deal. It's apparent he's quick to snap, not easy to work with; basically, this kind of playground kiddy crap isn't worth my time.
I would consider the gas tube dings to be cosmetic. I guarantee they won't affect function. You buy a used part, you expect some wear and tear. I think he's unreasonable and his attitude sucks.
3/10/2012 7:45:24 PM
Originally Posted By rob78:
You can add me firmly to that corner.
300's attitude in this and the other thread sealed the deal. It's apparent he's quick to snap, not easy to work with; basically, this kind of playground kiddy crap isn't worth my time.
I would consider the gas tube dings to be cosmetic. I guarantee they won't affect function. You buy a used part, you expect some wear and tear. I think he's unreasonable and his attitude sucks.
Originally Posted By juliomorris:
all this over a ginged gas tube that is easily over looked. Rum you should have taken the new gas tube because I'm betting alot of people won't want to do business with you after this one..
all this over a ginged gas tube that is easily over looked. Rum you should have taken the new gas tube because I'm betting alot of people won't want to do business with you after this one..
You can add me firmly to that corner.
300's attitude in this and the other thread sealed the deal. It's apparent he's quick to snap, not easy to work with; basically, this kind of playground kiddy crap isn't worth my time.
I would consider the gas tube dings to be cosmetic. I guarantee they won't affect function. You buy a used part, you expect some wear and tear. I think he's unreasonable and his attitude sucks.
+3
3/10/2012 7:49:01 PM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
If thats how you feel this should be handled that is fine with me. As I told crowboy via PM I like the information this site has and I will miss it but it's not worth me chancing $150 over.
You will only be hurting the seller. I have half of my money back and I know I can sell the barrel for $150 even in the condition the gas tube is in to recoop the rest.
3/10/2012 7:49:37 PM
I agree 100% with Rob
3/10/2012 7:52:06 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
If thats how you feel this should be handled that is fine with me. As I told crowboy via PM I like the information this site has and I will miss it but it's not worth me chancing $150 over.
You will only be hurting the seller. I have half of my money back and I know I can sell the barrel for $150 even in the condition the gas tube is in to recoop the rest.
Originally Posted By Aimless:
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
If thats how you feel this should be handled that is fine with me. As I told crowboy via PM I like the information this site has and I will miss it but it's not worth me chancing $150 over.
You will only be hurting the seller. I have half of my money back and I know I can sell the barrel for $150 even in the condition the gas tube is in to recoop the rest.
such class
ETA: You keep both and your ass should go to the HOS
3/10/2012 7:54:10 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
If thats how you feel this should be handled that is fine with me. As I told crowboy via PM I like the information this site has and I will miss it but it's not worth me chancing $150 over.
You will only be hurting the seller. I have half of my money back and I know I can sell the barrel for $150 even in the condition the gas tube is in to recoop the rest.
Originally Posted By Aimless:
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
Originally Posted By Coltgunner:
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
Couldn't the money and the barrel be sent to a trusted intermediary?
That is what I suggested to crowboy via PM. I offered to send the barrel to him and pay shipping to him and the seller pay the shipping for the second half of the journey. If somebody who I can trust is willing to receive the barrel and say "it's here and in the condition of the pictures, send the rest of the funds" then upon me receiving the funds the barrel is sent to him then I would be willing to ship the barrel without full payment.
There is absolutely no way in hell I am sending the barrel to him without full payment though. He tried to fuck me and I don't trust him. He has given a reason not to be trusted by sending a item that was damaged when I asked about it, I have given no reason for anybody to not trust me.
Let's look at the facts here... He sent a barrel that was jacked up, I made a thread about the barrel being jacked up so the chance of him fully recooping his money is extremely slim. I'm sure he knows this. He can easily claim "he sent back the barrel damaged" and use it as a reason not to give me the rest of my money or only part of it and therefor I am out of something. I realize he can still pull this even if he does refund my money in full but at least I'm not out of anything at that point.
This can go one of two ways. 1. We can use a middle man to do this, somebody who can without a doubt be trusted. 2. He can send me the other half of the $300 plus sufficient funds to ship whichever method he prefers and I will make sure I video record the entire repackaging of the barrel to the point it is dropped off at the shipper so he can't pull any crap.
The only way this barrel is leaving my possession without receiving a full refund is if it's going to a trusted middle man with the agreement the barrel is not shipped from the middle man to him until I receive the other half of the payment.
All you should have gotten is a new gastube. You got half the money back so either ship the barrel back now or I'll boot you and call it over with. Your call.
If thats how you feel this should be handled that is fine with me. As I told crowboy via PM I like the information this site has and I will miss it but it's not worth me chancing $150 over.
You will only be hurting the seller. I have half of my money back and I know I can sell the barrel for $150 even in the condition the gas tube is in to recoop the rest.
If you keep the barrel and his money I can't think of any word to describe that other than theft.
3/10/2012 7:57:04 PM
Hop on that bandwagon!
There's a simple way to solve this with a middle man as others suggested as well but it seems nobody is willing to step up to the plate. If you want to be stubborn that's fine with me. No skin off my ass.
There's a simple way to solve this with a middle man as others suggested as well but it seems nobody is willing to step up to the plate. If you want to be stubborn that's fine with me. No skin off my ass.
3/10/2012 7:58:15 PM
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
There's a simple way to solve this with a middle man as others suggested as well but it seems nobody is willing to step up to the plate.
There's a simple way to solve this with a middle man as others suggested as well but it seems nobody is willing to step up to the plate.
I will be that guy.
3/10/2012 8:00:44 PM
Originally Posted By arodgers:
If you keep the barrel and his money I can't think of any word to describe that other than theft.
If you keep the barrel and his money I can't think of any word to describe that other than theft.
I never stated I was going to keep it. I stated I will sell it if I have to in order to get back the rest of what is rightfully mine. The seller has given me reason not to trust him and I won't, if you don't see it I don't care.
Had a HONEST accurate description of the item been given when I asked TWICE this wouldn't even be happening because I would have told him "no thanks". He didn't so here I sit with half of my money refunded and a barrel I don't want.
3/10/2012 8:02:27 PM
Originally Posted By scoutfsu99:
I will be that guy.
Originally Posted By 300ultramag:
There's a simple way to solve this with a middle man as others suggested as well but it seems nobody is willing to step up to the plate.
There's a simple way to solve this with a middle man as others suggested as well but it seems nobody is willing to step up to the plate.
I will be that guy.
If you're willing to do it I would greatly appreciate it.
I'll send you a PM now.
3/10/2012 8:02:44 PM
Aimless is Senior staff and is in charge of the EE. He will be making any and all decisions in this issue. OP, karma is a bitch..
