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 Group Buy: CNC Gunsmithing's A1 BUIS rear sight
R4fan  [Member]
10/15/2004 12:40:46 PM
Last updated on January 19, 2005

This Group Buy is CLOSED. NO MORE ORDERS ARE BEING ACCEPTED.

ServiceRifleShooter (1) sight received
Ghost-Shooter (1) sight received
Screech (1) sight received
lt557 (1) sight received
viperidae2000 (1) sight received
pfaust664 (2) sights received
Ugh (1) sight received
JasonC (1) sight received
SuperChicken (1) sight received
BBossman (1) sigt received
Tromatic (1) sight received
BB (1) sight received
dadman (1) sight received
agzant (3) sights received
Sw33p3R (1) sight received
KevinB (2) sight received
444 (1) sight received
Parrandero (1) sight received
R4fan  [Member]
10/15/2004 2:42:44 PM


Screech  [Member]
10/15/2004 5:34:14 PM
Quiet here!!! Lets get this thread ROCKIN!
Thanks to all who got this going!!
R4fan  [Member]
10/15/2004 5:41:36 PM
Sw33p3r  [Member]
10/16/2004 3:58:44 PM
If we get more people will the price go down??

Please put me down as 1, not (1 or 2).

Turns out my wife doesn't want one.

Sw33p3R
R4fan  [Member]
10/16/2004 5:53:36 PM

Originally Posted By Sw33p3r:
If we get more people will the price go down??

Please put me down as 1, not (1 or 2).

Turns out my wife doesn't want one.

Sw33p3R



No problem, I'll update you to 1. I'll e-mail Justin and see what the prices would be depending on the amount of orders.
JasonC  [Team Member]
10/17/2004 4:55:05 PM
Tag-a-roonie
R4fan  [Member]
10/17/2004 5:27:53 PM

Originally Posted By Sw33p3r:
If we get more people will the price go down??

Please put me down as 1, not (1 or 2).

Turns out my wife doesn't want one.

Sw33p3R




I spoke with Justin, if we can get 30 sights ordered, the price of the sights will come down to $90.00 each. If the rest of the guys on the two lists confirm their orders, we would be at 29, and only need 1 more for the price break.
R4fan  [Member]
10/18/2004 6:37:45 AM
Now accepting payments for the sights. See the info above.
SuperChicken  [Team Member]
10/19/2004 11:34:15 PM
I'll get a Money Order out by the end of this week.
KevinB  [Team Member]
10/21/2004 6:28:49 PM
I will get the cash out ASAP... (well Monday at the latest...)
R4fan  [Member]
10/21/2004 6:51:05 PM
SuperChicken & KevinB,

Thanks for the updates!
dadman  [Member]
10/22/2004 5:19:02 PM

For those that are on the list and your name is still in BLACK (dadman) and you haven't got back to me yet...

I've received e-mails from you, R4fan, and also replied to them.
Something is wrong on your end as others have received e-mails from me without any problems.
Also, in the past when this sight offer was first kicked around you didn't have replies or answers to questions.
I have been lax visiting ar15.com due to time and life in general.
I've expressed in the unreceived e-mails that 95$ for a stripped sight is a little much.
Regardless, put me in for (1) sight body.
Any recommendations on who to deal with for the rest of the sight parts?
R4fan  [Member]
10/22/2004 7:07:32 PM

Originally Posted By dadman:

For those that are on the list and your name is still in BLACK (dadman) and you haven't got back to me yet...

I've received e-mails from you, R4fan, and also replied to them.
Something is wrong on your end as others have received e-mails from me without any problems.
Also, in the past when this sight offer was first kicked around you didn't have replies or answers to questions.
I have been lax visiting ar15.com due to time and life in general.
I've expressed in the unreceived e-mails that 95$ for a stripped sight is a little much.
Regardless, put me in for (1) sight body.
Any recommendations on who to deal with for the rest of the sight parts?



dadman,

Thanks for the reply. I haven't received any e-mails from you, and have had the same problem with some other members. I think it's a problem with MSN, because I have had the computer freeze and an error screen pop-up when sending e-mails through AR-15.com. As soon as I knew I had a problem, I posted it at the end of my first post. I have also repeatedly tried to contact everone and to remind them to check the thread for updates.

I'm experienced in spending all my money on group buys, but this is the first one that I have been in charge of. I checked the locked thread and found your post:


Originally posted by dadman:

Great idea.
Great work.
Questionable price, especially with no sight.
Don't cast/machine the recess below the windage wheel on right side and on left side below windage screw/shaft. May decrease manufacture time and cost.
Is the recesses for weight and/or appearence?
I think flat sides would look better.
I would consider one with sight and slight price reduction.
Again, great work!

Are there any available?
Count me in for one.



I am not the manufacturer of the sight, I just got involved because I wanted one and needed at least 19 other orders so I could get mine. The price may seem a little steep, but this is a limited-production, custom made sight. If we could get a total order for 100 pieces, the price would probably drop dramatically. So far we can't even make it to a total of 30 just to get a $5 price break. There are other sights that are in the same price range and the cosmetics are basic, and nothing like the CNC sight. The design is already made/produced by Justin and there have been no others asking to change the design. Sorry if I didn't answer all your questions, as I said this is a first for me.

If you want the internal parts, I know Bushmaster has them. You can get the parts pretty much anywhere though.
dadman  [Member]
10/24/2004 10:50:51 PM
Sending payment out tomorrow.
Tromatic  [Team Member]
10/24/2004 10:50:58 PM
Cheaper at DPMS, no shipping charges.
Matthew
R4fan  [Member]
10/25/2004 8:15:52 PM

Originally Posted By Tromatic:
Cheaper at DPMS, no shipping charges.
Matthew



I guess you mean the DPMS detachable A2 sight? The sight on this thread/pre-order is an A1 style sight, different than all the others out there. It's a custom-made, limited-production sight not found anywhere else. There are cheaper alternatives, but it's all what you prefer. DPMS is also a big company that can offer free shipping. I'm just one of you guys trying to run a group-buy so I can get a sight for myself, and to help others get one as well. I'm definately not doing this for fun or profit.
KevinB  [Team Member]
10/25/2004 8:24:24 PM
Not to mention the DPMS is a POS.

Parrandero  [Member]
10/25/2004 10:02:25 PM

Originally Posted By R4fan:

Originally Posted By Tromatic:
Cheaper at DPMS, no shipping charges.
Matthew



I guess you mean the DPMS detachable A2 sight? The sight on this thread/pre-order is an A1 style sight, different than all the others out there. It's a custom-made, limited-production sight not found anywhere else. There are cheaper alternatives, but it's all what you prefer. DPMS is also a big company that can offer free shipping. I'm just one of you guys trying to run a group-buy so I can get a sight for myself, and to help others get one as well. I'm definately not doing this for fun or profit.



I think he meant the A1 rear sight assembly (part # UR-21A) would be cheaper ordering from DPMS with no shipping.
SuperChicken  [Team Member]
10/25/2004 10:16:14 PM
Money order went out today.
R4fan  [Member]
10/25/2004 11:02:24 PM

Originally Posted By SuperChicken:
Money order went out today.



Thanks for the update. As soon as I get it, your name on the list will be highlighted in GREEN.
ServiceRifleShooter  [Member]
10/26/2004 12:32:01 PM
I want to be included in the group buy of these A1 BUIS. I will buy one. I hope I'm not to late to be included. I will mail out the USPS money order tomorrow. Thanks, Mike DeKam aka ServiceRifleShooter.
R4fan  [Member]
10/26/2004 4:41:51 PM

Originally Posted By ServiceRifleShooter:
I want to be included in the group buy of these A1 BUIS. I will buy one. I hope I'm not to late to be included. I will mail out the USPS money order tomorrow. Thanks, Mike DeKam aka ServiceRifleShooter.



ServiceRifleShooter, you're in. I added you on the list above. Just send me an IM message with the following, and also include this information with your payment:

1. Your AR-15.com screen name
2. How many sights you want
3. Your real name/shipping address (where you want your sight shipped to)/contact info.


Thanks!
R4fan  [Member]
10/26/2004 7:12:28 PM
Yeah, Tromatic was referring to the sight components. My mistake. Hey Tromatic, thank for the heads-up on the A1 sight parts.


Originally Posted By Parrandero:

Originally Posted By R4fan:

Originally Posted By Tromatic:
Cheaper at DPMS, no shipping charges.
Matthew



I guess you mean the DPMS detachable A2 sight? The sight on this thread/pre-order is an A1 style sight, different than all the others out there. It's a custom-made, limited-production sight not found anywhere else. There are cheaper alternatives, but it's all what you prefer. DPMS is also a big company that can offer free shipping. I'm just one of you guys trying to run a group-buy so I can get a sight for myself, and to help others get one as well. I'm definately not doing this for fun or profit.



I think he meant the A1 rear sight assembly (part # UR-21A) would be cheaper ordering from DPMS with no shipping.

Corporal_Chaos  [Team Member]
10/26/2004 11:24:07 PM
Sorry R4, but I'm going to have to drop out.
Tromatic  [Team Member]
10/26/2004 11:32:37 PM
Sorry about that, R4! I should have been more specific regarding the DPMS parts.
Matthew
R4fan  [Member]
10/27/2004 7:07:18 AM

Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Sorry R4, but I'm going to have to drop out.



No problem, I took your name off the list. If you want to get back in just let me know.


Originally Posted By Tromatic:
Sorry about that, R4! I should have been more specific regarding the DPMS parts.
Matthew



My fault as well. Thanks Matthew!
ServiceRifleShooter  [Member]
10/27/2004 1:44:26 PM
Troy, my USPS money order was sent to you today via USPS Priority Mail as payment for one of these sights.
R4fan  [Member]
10/27/2004 5:46:01 PM
Thanks, I'll be looking for it.


Originally Posted By ServiceRifleShooter:
Troy, my USPS money order was sent to you today via USPS Priority Mail as payment for one of these sights.

R4fan  [Member]
10/28/2004 2:04:21 PM
Payments received from SuperChicken and Parrandero.
BBossman  [Member]
10/28/2004 3:29:20 PM
Troy, USPS M/O sent today as promised.

Thanks
JasonC  [Team Member]
10/28/2004 4:31:21 PM
Sent out MO today as well. Thanks.

JasonC
R4fan  [Member]
10/28/2004 8:15:45 PM
BBossman & JasonC, thanks for the update.
R4fan  [Member]
10/29/2004 3:03:26 PM
Received payments today from Tromatic and ServiceRifleShooter.
dadman  [Member]
10/30/2004 3:00:32 PM
R4fan,
I wasn't able to get my MO out until Friday AM. Post Office said it should be delivered to you Mon., or Tues at latest.
Let me know if this affects the group buy or my particular order, since it will arrive after the cut-off date.
R4fan  [Member]
10/30/2004 5:20:10 PM

Originally Posted By dadman:
R4fan,
I wasn't able to get my MO out until Friday AM. Post Office said it should be delivered to you Mon., or Tues at latest.
Let me know if this affects the group buy or my particular order, since it will arrive after the cut-off date.



dadman, I only have received 4 payments so far, I still have 15 other members that I am waiting for payments on. The cut off date is just to get this project moving along (and has nothing to do with those already on the list), as we have the minimum (20) number of sights ordered, so we can have these produced. Once I get all the payments, the sights will be produced and shipped to me, then to you and everyone else. It's just the sooner I get all the payments, the sooner you get your sight!
R4fan  [Member]
11/1/2004 7:22:32 AM
The group buy is closed, all payments are due (as soon as possible).


R4fan  [Member]
11/1/2004 6:03:12 PM
I just received payments from the following:

JasonC
BBossman
agzant
dadman

You're updated on the list.
Screech  [Member]
11/2/2004 9:08:16 AM
I sent payment today, look for it no later than Saturday, ME to NJ. Thanks!
R4fan  [Member]
11/2/2004 5:31:38 PM

Originally Posted By Screech:
I sent payment today, look for it no later than Saturday, ME to NJ. Thanks!



No problem. Thanks!
JasonC  [Team Member]
11/4/2004 11:13:59 AM
Well I got my baggie of A1 sight parts from Bushmaster. Now all I need is the sight... Lets go people, Get YOUR PAYMENTS IN!!!!
R4fan  [Member]
11/4/2004 3:15:17 PM
Received payment from Screech today... name updated on the list.
dadman  [Member]
11/5/2004 2:49:26 PM

Originally Posted By JasonC:
Well I got my baggie of A1 sight parts from Bushmaster. Now all I need is the sight... Lets go people, Get YOUR PAYMENTS IN!!!!


Does Bushmaster sell the parts together, or did you have to slect/purchase seperatly?
dadman  [Member]
11/5/2004 9:08:08 PM
What's plan 'B', and when does it go into effect, if others don't pay?
R4fan  [Member]
11/5/2004 9:51:08 PM

Originally Posted By dadman:
What's plan 'B', and when does it go into effect, if others don't pay?



Everyone that is on the list originally posted they wanted one, then confirmed their order when asked again. I've been getting payments here and there, but it will probably take a couple weeks to get them all.

Check the post above, I added a cutoff date for payments.
R4fan  [Member]
11/8/2004 10:25:23 PM
I have come to believe that some members might not realize that there is this new thread for the A1 BUIS ordering, as the old thread was locked. So, everyone that is on the list that hasn't paid, I have just sent you an e-mail just to make sure. If you've already sent your payment, please disregard. I just want to get this thing wrapped up and don't want to wait for a payment from someone who might think the group buy is dead. If you have sent or are going to send your payment, please let me know. If I don't reply to your e-mail within a day of you sending it, please send me an IM just in case my e-mail is still screwed up. I check this thread every day for updates, if you need to contact me.
KevinB  [Team Member]
11/9/2004 12:37:49 AM
My bad - I am on leave and forgot all about it.
Tromatic  [Team Member]
11/9/2004 4:13:37 PM
Come on, folks! You don't want my death by zombies on your conscience all because I did not have a rear sight, do you?
R4fan  [Member]
11/11/2004 1:24:56 PM

Originally Posted By R4fan:
I have come to believe that some members might not realize that there is this new thread for the A1 BUIS ordering, as the old thread was locked. So, everyone that is on the list that hasn't paid, I have just sent you an e-mail just to make sure. If you've already sent your payment, please disregard. I just want to get this thing wrapped up and don't want to wait for a payment from someone who might think the group buy is dead. If you have sent or are going to send your payment, please let me know. If I don't reply to your e-mail within a day of you sending it, please send me an IM just in case my e-mail is still screwed up. I check this thread every day for updates, if you need to contact me.



All those that I e-mailed and have not contacted me, I will send each of you an IM. If you got my e-mail let me know. I want to make sure everyone on the list knows that it's time to send your payments in.
R4fan  [Member]
11/12/2004 5:49:14 PM
Received payment from pfaust664 today, your name is updated on the list.
R4fan  [Member]
11/18/2004 3:18:34 PM
Ghost-Shooter, I got your payment today. You're updated on the list.