Sunday alcohol sales are now good to go in Connecticut.

Gee
If Only this were important !
Fuck Malloy!!!!!!!
But I digress

I like beer! Even on Sundays.

Woulda helped me a few years ago!!

Whats the "compromise"? So you you be able to get liquor anywhere or just beer at supermarkets on Sundays.

The compromised measure would allow retail sales of alcohol on Sundays from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Supermarkets, which already sell beer, would be able to sell beer on Sundays, as well.

Glad that Malloy is finally addressing the real problems facing this state


Oh wait..... Fuck you stuttering Dannel! Fucking bullshit huckster should be marooned out on Plum Island so I can stand on the beach and wave my fucking pecker at him.

He is not doing it because he thinks there should be liquor sales 7 days a week.He is only doing it because Ct taxes the shit out of liquor and the state knows people go over the border on Sundays to get liquor/beer on Sundays.He just wants to generate more revenue for the state so it can continue funding it's social programs.

Dan, I don't kow you but that Plum island comment made me spit my coffee all over my monitor at work.

I'll probably still go to Mass. on sundays if I run out of beer. Just to say F. U. Malloy. And get my gas too! I haven't bought gas in CT for 6 years. It's nice living 2 miles from cheap gas and package stores that have been open on sundays for as long as I can remember. To bad the gun laws suck worse than CT!

More anti small business bullshit. The hypocrisy is so deep its unreal. The Dems rail against big business and excessive profit but they are only enabling the mega stores to get a larger piece of the market.

My son works at a mom and pop store, they will get killed.
They can't afford to turn the lights on or staff the store 7 days a week for the minimal sales they will see on Sunday. If they don't open they will lose the drive by or regulars.

Then the mega stores, i.e. Walmart and Stop and Shop will take all the beer sales. They are already opened and staffed, all they need to do is take the tarps off the beer.

These guys are already open 9am to 9pm. If your such a fucking drunk or too stupid to be prepared and you can't get your booze stash for the weekend, you shouldn't be allowed to buy on Sunday. Shit you know 3 days ahead of time when the blizzard is coming and you don't neglect to stock up then do you?

Another commie deal, collective, centralized, taxed liquor sales.

Forget the convenience to you, think about the pure economics of it.

I have no love for the mega stores but if I wake up on a Sunday morning and want buy a bottle of tequila I think I should be able too. A puritanical outdated law that should of been done away with a long time ago.
I don't like the reasons why the law is being overturned but regardless to say that small liquor stores will go under I think is a bit much.
If their margin of solvency is so slight that (the extra day open's operating expenses - sales of liquor on Sunday) is such a great negative this will only speed up the inevitable for them.

I believe in the free market if the consumer wants liquor sales on Sunday I see no problem.If the small business owner refuses or cannot meet it's needs someone else will .

I dunno Cav. I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. If I ran a small business, I'd have a serious problem with the state telling me that I can't be open 52 days out of the year. People buy most of their booze at the package store. They usually buy whatever is close and whatever is on the way home from work.


Also, why Sunday? What is the significance of Sunday? Why not Monday? I know the answer, but is it honestly enough of a reason to hold Sunday sacred? Do Jews and Muslims not enjoy drink? Why do we tell them they cannot buy on Sunday?

You do know that Muslims do not drink alcohol, right?

Funny how the same complaints and dire warnings were made when they extended the hours for selling booze from 8 to 9pm....

Last time I checked the liquor store at the end of my block didn't close its doors, nor did the big liquor store down the street that it competes with. And they both continue to compete with a Stop and Shop in the area since they both offer liquor other than beer.

Thats bullshit. They drink sure as I swear and fuck for fun.

And Christians will be buying booze on Sunday once this law is lifted.

It's not the state's job to police who buys booze when, or what day of the week is observed as a "dry" day. thats personal responsibility.

Wrong! They do whatever they want so long as no one is watching. I drank with the Saudis at JFK at the air France terminal- they had to sneak away from the all observing imams and clerics lest they be stoned upon arrival back in Mecca.

There are some, less orthodox, Muslims who openly condoned moderate libation. Think about some of the statements in Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat, for example.

The 911 terrorists drank, went to titty bars and anything else that would allow them to seem as though they were "regular Joes". In fact , if the end result will glorify allah and spread the faith by killing the infidels- The holy ones can do anything so long as the end justifies the means
you never know where you stand with them
but I digress

My sons boss is Muslim.

Disagree as you wish, I have talked to this particular store owner.

As usual, time will tell. Whole towns business districts were wiped out by Walmart. Do I advocate free market capitalism? IN the highest order. I own Walmart stock in my portfolio. But this isn't about that, it's about growing government, and payouts to the have nots.


So if the small guy goes down, how does the town now collect property tax on the vacant lot? They raise yours that's how. Will Walmart now hjire my kid to run a cash register for the extra beer sales? NO FUCKING WAY! They already have the staff and infrastructure in place. And those awesome microbrews you like? Walmart doesn't sell those.

AS a matter of fact my son is his stores wine and beer expert, he knows all the micro brews and boutique beers, informs customers, and provides a personal service you wont gfet from the slug at Walmart. They sell more product because of him. And they pay him pretty well, not frigging Walmart minimum wage.

I try to frequent the small guy as much as I can. Call me old fashioned, cuz I am. And I dont give a shit about Sunday Blue Laws, or your lack of planning for a tequila drunk on a Sunday...
Buy a fucking handle of Cuervo you cheap bastard and keep your bar well stocked like I do!

No diversity, all one big corporation selling everything, sounds like, I dont know...1984? (read up cretins its a book about big brother)

Maybe we should just have government stores and wipe out private business all together. Wheres all my grey tunics with cloth buttons, and my Mao hat?

Centralized, collective, government owned...hmmm read up on that too...


Its a slow creep of change, I think you youngsters are missing the action all around you. Either that or I am being left behind in the dust of progress.

I dont need no stinkin lickher stores
I fucking drink antifreeze

Spoken like a true Sterno bum. Or Russian soldier.

Wow
that hurt- "sterno bum" , that really hurt!!!
Russian soldier I could take but "Sterno bum" , that hurt
oh well
nothing a little antifreeze wont wash away

Cav, these are all good points, but there will always be a factor of specialization and convenience that WalMart will never be able to compete with. Wal Mart kills other big box stores like Kmart, Toys R Us, etc, etc. Main St, as you described, was devastated years ago before Wal Mart came along the scene. You want to know what small businesses really face as an enemy? online sales like amazon. Hell, I don't even go to grocery store anymore with pea pod. You think I'm going all the way to Wal Mart for some Gentleman Jack and 4 Loko? Fuck no. I'll go to the closest packy store so I can hurry back, get drunk, and call Got_Gunz.

Your points on short tax budgets is well reasoned, but I think it is a symptom, not the cause. Lack of tax revenue due to small business failure is a consumption problem. Meaning that the jobs to support the businesses are not there in the first place. And considering that people are crossing the border in order to buy booze, I assure you that this is NOT the case when it comes to liquor sales. Excess demand is there. CT is full of hopeless drunks. Back to the financial side, it would pay to look at how municipalities and the state share/pool tax revenue in order to protect against such shortfalls.

For example, the mom and pop stores still have a monopoly on hard liquor. You know, that shit you water down your coffee with in the morning.

Some stores WILL fold, as they are likely teetering on viability anyways. However, some stores, like those in border towns, will likely thrive compared to previous years. For these stores owners, repealing this law is very much about helping local small business.

Ultimately, this really is a minor issue compared to what this state is truly facing as important issues. That being said, this is a good debate, but we both should be telling Malloy to quit patting himself on the back for grabbing the low hanging fruit and saying "look what I did!" like a synchophantic 8 year old kid, and get to work on getting some REAL job growth, and income growth in the state. Fuck Malloy. Stuttering bitch.

Can I make my own bathtub sterno?

Show off
" drink it" as my college professor use to say

Cav, which store does your son work at?

Hmmmmm.......the small business owners I know never mention amazon or any big evil box store as "their enemy."
Universally, the response always seems to be the same rotten, thieving, silent partners, known as state and local government taxes, regulations, mandates, regulations, etc........

That is the universal enemy

For the stores who say they won't be able to afford to keep the lights on or pay employees that extra day. Then stay open on Sunday and close on a Monday or something. I'm sure during the summer you would have a lot more sales on a Sunday than a Monday. With people purchasing for parties and cookouts etc. They will need to learn to adapt like the rest of the country who stays open on Sundays. I'm sure it will even out in the end for the stores who say say they can't afford to stay open, they can close and it will just be more customers for the other stores.

The owner of the store I regular is stoked! He also made note of a time I would have been more excited about it myself. hahaha

I had a good 10 minute conversation with him about it last weekend. He didn't mention any negative feelings towards opening up on Sunday, he said he couldn't wait and was practically drooling.

His father owned the store before him, for anyone wondering if its a chain or family owned. The store still carries his fathers name.

I've had conversations with him in the past about how business is slow for either him or me or both, shared concerns etc, so you can usually tell how he feels. He was in good spirits about the topic though.


If a store like this goes under I don't think it will be because Wal Mart also sells the product. Anything you find in his store you can find in at least 10 other stores in my same town. If a business is to stay a business, it is entirely up to the owners. Where there is a will there is a way. It is no one else's responsibility to keep their store open, if they're losing customers or can't keep up they are doing something wrong, and thats their fault.

This guy takes great pride in his business, and it is obvious when you walk in. He keeps his coolers colder than anyone else and has a big ass window painting that says "Coldest Beer In Town". He has a bigger selection of beer, wine and liquor than I've seen anywhere locally, and it doesn't look like he just bought an old Ames building and filled the shelf with beer, its a nice store. He has 8' of coolers for your "beer on a budget" (Buds, Coors, Busch, etc) and 32' of coolers for your quality beers like Harpoon, Otter Creek, Sierra, Gary's, Rogue, Stone etc etc etc. And don't get me started on the local brews! The best part, he knows the first name of damn near every customer that walks in his door, and you better believe the refrigeration, window painting, everything is found locally.

This guy is here to stay, and it is 100% his fault.




Did I mention, there is a Wal-Mart, 2 other packages stores and a Big Y on the same exact road, all within 2 miles. Not to mention the 4 gas stations and the 711 within a two miles radius.




If there is a problem for business (large or small) in this state it is with the forever and faster rising taxes and cost to operate. My father has worked in the same factory here in CT for 28 years, he's only 4 or 5 years from his retirement. 2 weeks ago it was confirmed they are packing up shop and heading to KY. The move will be offset in a few short years based just on the money saved on taxes and electricity (And their energy provider is literally a few blocks away). His choice, move from his family and home after 50 years of living here, or take the severance and find a worthwhile job in this shit show of an economy.


Not to sound all "Occupied" or anything, but the decision makers in this state will likely never fully understand OR appreciate the implications of the decisions they make. Its like a horse race through the woods where the jockey wears the blinders, the decision making seems almost blind.

I love this place as literally as it can be meant, but seriously, fuck CT.


Sorry, rant over.

Zerg,

great points. I don't think one could look at this any differently. You are absolutely right. The legislature is just trying to blindly pass a bunch of pet projects with no foresight or understanding. No plan and no clue.

This state needs a government that has a stated long-term plan, and set of goals to shoot for.


Why is nobody interested in doing that?

I'd take that; or I'd take them just sitting down and getting the hell out of the way.

Seems they want to do neither.

agreed. Can we re-elect Rowland yet?

How long have I been saying this for now?

Rowland resigning was the worst thing to happen to this state in the last 50 years. And over what? The same shit EVERYONE else does? Fuck that. He could have run far better damage control on that incident and still have been the governor of this state.

He did more for the state during the October ice storm just on his radio show than Malloy did from the EOC.

Well, which one of us is gonna run?

Can't be me, Im too young and crooked. Plus I can't figure out if Im supposed to be Dem, Rep, or American. They (the ones that matter at least) all just make me so mad.

I vote not Pedorrero.





P.S. The store is "Joe's Fine Wine & Liquors" on rt.140, East Windsor/Enfield line. Its worth checking out if your in the area, I can guarantee you will find a beverage of your liking that you've never heard of before. . . . or I will buy the rest off you. . .

I'm too old and have too much baggage.

And I'm too Draconian.
And pragmatic.
And I don't drive a Volt.
And I'm not P.C.
And I am a cliched drunken Irishman.

Wait a minute...I'd vote for me!

Either me, Dan or the both of us. But not yet.

Let the Girl Scouts take over the legislature.

Someone is paying attention

little change of topic, you guys should try ONYX MOONSHINE, made in Manchester CT. I just picked up a bottle, it is smoooooooooth as hell

ill throw my hat in for selectman, like on crank yankers. Ill do all my public appearances with a hand puppet as i hide behind a podium. Oh and all my answers to questions must ryhme or be a haiku. " mr. hardcore, what are you going to do about making a railroad between hartford and new britain?" "all we need to do, is put a slip-n-slide or two from one toilet to the next, itll be easier and save expense!"

Swear on the oodder of Mrs Murphy's cow, Oid vote fer all trey of ya...

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