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Gear placement and polymer-framed handguns
6/4/2012 3:53:10 PM
In Lordsburg, New Mexico, a Border Patrol Agent was involved in a training exercise while riding an all-terrain vehicle. He fell off the vehicle and fell onto the ground landing on his holster. It is believed that the impact that caused the pistol to shear in half was caused by the placement of the BPA’s collapsible steel baton, which was situated behind the holster. The agent received only minor injuries; the weapon was loss. Had this occurred during a violent encounter, the BPA could only have retreated as he would not have been able to defend himself.
It appears that the Border Patrol Blackhawk Serpa holster performs admirably, but the H&K composite frame is not as sturdy as we would like it to be.
Food for thought. Look at your belt and make sure everything is in operating order; placed on your belt for success and you are familiar with the location of every tool on your belt.
Personally, I never place any piece of equipment anywhere near my firearm; in front of or behind. Under stress, rolling around on the ground, I don't want to grab the wrong piece of kit.
It appears that the Border Patrol Blackhawk Serpa holster performs admirably, but the H&K composite frame is not as sturdy as we would like it to be.
Food for thought. Look at your belt and make sure everything is in operating order; placed on your belt for success and you are familiar with the location of every tool on your belt.
Personally, I never place any piece of equipment anywhere near my firearm; in front of or behind. Under stress, rolling around on the ground, I don't want to grab the wrong piece of kit.
6/4/2012 4:05:37 PM
Damn.
6/4/2012 4:36:24 PM
WOW never saw anything like that before. Thanks for sharing, Shep.
His only recourse would be to use it as an edged weapon.
His only recourse would be to use it as an edged weapon.
6/4/2012 4:52:47 PM
Well, it would go off ONCE...right?
6/4/2012 5:01:25 PM
Nothing a little superglue and duct tape can't fix.... 
Seriously though, that is the first I have seen something like that. I don't think guns were designed to have a body land on them while being bent over a baton. I wonder if an aluminum framed pistol would have faired any better. I doubt it would have. Maybe a steel frame would, but it would have probably have bent enough to prevent the mag from working.
Seriously though, that is the first I have seen something like that. I don't think guns were designed to have a body land on them while being bent over a baton. I wonder if an aluminum framed pistol would have faired any better. I doubt it would have. Maybe a steel frame would, but it would have probably have bent enough to prevent the mag from working.
6/4/2012 6:02:07 PM
I have broken a kydex holster before, but never a pistol. That must have hurt!
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6/4/2012 6:07:31 PM
Thanks for posting.
6/4/2012 6:27:32 PM
I wonder if HK's warranty will cover it. 
6/4/2012 6:29:31 PM
If it is anything like their subgun warranty, they will be dissapointed. I have seen HK MP5s with cracked frames get sent in for repair, only to come back with weld marks all over it to fix the crack. They didn't even sand them down and refinish it. It looked like a franken-subgun after that.
Originally Posted By ARstudent:
I wonder if HK's warranty will cover it.
I wonder if HK's warranty will cover it.
6/4/2012 7:04:23 PM
I have to say it.......that is why I carry a 1932 manufacture steel frame 1911.................
......Been carrying this particuliar one since 1980
......Been carrying this particuliar one since 19806/4/2012 7:20:19 PM
Glock would have just kept on trucking!
6/4/2012 9:55:02 PM
I believe that is the latest in deep concealment grip reduction.
6/4/2012 9:55:54 PM
Originally Posted By triharder72:
I believe that is the latest in deep concealment grip reduction.
I believe that is the latest in deep concealment grip reduction.
Not to mention weight savings. Every ounce counts.
6/4/2012 11:50:53 PM
I seriously doubt a steel-framed, single-stack 1911 would have had the frame damaged in such an accident.
