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 Utah Carry Permit Class at RTSP.
5thCavGuy  [Member]
1/29/2012 6:07:20 PM
I took the UT carry permit class at RTSP in Randolph this afternoon. $200 in total for one-stop shopping including fingerprinting, notarizing, passport photo, required classroom instruction, and mailing. Just bring your NJ driver license.

The classroom seats around ~40 people and it was completely full.

There was quite a bit of downtime as the photography and fingerprinting were being done, but the whole process including classroom was done in under 3 hours total.

UT requires no proof of firearm training or competency unlike FL. The instructor stated that turnaround is in the 50-60 day timeframe typically, somewhat faster than FL from what I recall.

Permit is good for 5 years and costs $15 to renew. FL was in the $110 range to renew if I recall correctly.
LUGERMAN  [Team Member]
1/29/2012 6:57:23 PM
Wow. Where have you been. I haven't see you post in years. I thought you were banned.
5thCavGuy  [Member]
1/29/2012 7:40:05 PM
Kids, new job, and grad school conspired to keep my schedule occupied.

The kids are growing and requiring less maintenance...grad school is done...and the job is hectic but manageable.

Thanks for noticing!
LUGERMAN  [Team Member]
1/29/2012 7:42:50 PM
Originally Posted By 5thCavGuy:
Kids, new job, and grad school conspired to keep my schedule occupied.

The kids are growing and requiring less maintenance...grad school is done...and the job is hectic but manageable.

Thanks for noticing!


No problem. I always enjoyed you thoughtful, insightful and intelligent posts here and on NJCSD. v
zer0t  [Member]
1/29/2012 8:10:47 PM
Is the purpose in getting to carry in NJ if the federal reciprocity law passed?
5thCavGuy  [Member]
1/29/2012 8:29:06 PM
Originally Posted By zer0t:
Is the purpose in getting to carry in NJ if the federal reciprocity law passed?


Not really...as I understand the House bill it will only apply to persons having a permit in their state of residence, while traveling outside that state. I could be wrong, though.

I emailed my Rep (Frelinghuysen) asking his position on the bill, have not heard back yet.

I travel to PA quite a bit, and having a permit valid there is useful.
fly223  [Member]
1/30/2012 3:41:00 PM
When is the next class? Are there any classes during the week?
mak0  [Team Member]
1/30/2012 3:55:18 PM
Originally Posted By 5thCavGuy:
The instructor stated that turnaround is in the 50-60 day timeframe typically, somewhat faster than FL from what I recall..


Unless things have changed, FL was way faster than UT in my experience. FL took about 3 weeks to get for me, UT took about 2 months.
5thCavGuy  [Member]
1/30/2012 3:58:01 PM
Originally Posted By fly223:
When is the next class? Are there any classes during the week?


The class is taught by GunForHire.com and they list their full course schedule here:

http://gunforhire.com/gun-classes-ccw.html#.TycDfa4TVTY
ccrainman  [Member]
1/30/2012 10:01:11 PM
I just took the same course at Ready Aim Fire in Bristol,PA. It was $150 all in. They have classes once a month on a Saturday. Hope this helps for some of the people that live in central or south Jersey.
JoelK  [Team Member]
1/31/2012 7:20:20 AM
Also check out GAPP as he does UT/FL courses at a couple of locations in NJ for $140/150 (prints, photos, and notary included).
Lion_Dog  [Moderator]
1/31/2012 9:36:28 AM
Originally Posted By JoelK:
Also check out GAPP as he does UT/FL courses at a couple of locations in NJ for $140/150 (prints, photos, and notary included).


$140 for both Utah and Florida at the same time? I went to the site - it is not clear.
JoelK  [Team Member]
1/31/2012 1:31:56 PM
Originally Posted By Lion_Dog:
Originally Posted By JoelK:
Also check out GAPP as he does UT/FL courses at a couple of locations in NJ for $140/150 (prints, photos, and notary included).


$140 for both Utah and Florida at the same time? I went to the site - it is not clear.


Yes, both at the same time, two sets of prints, photos, and both applications notarized.

scatterbrains  [Member]
1/31/2012 2:16:33 PM
Hmmmm that Gapp class has peaked my interest
DWFAN  [Team Member]
1/31/2012 3:44:59 PM
Originally Posted By LUGERMAN:
Originally Posted By 5thCavGuy:
Kids, new job, and grad school conspired to keep my schedule occupied.

The kids are growing and requiring less maintenance...grad school is done...and the job is hectic but manageable.

Thanks for noticing!


No problem. I always enjoyed you thoughtful, insightful and intelligent posts here and on NJCSD. v


No kidding...I thought you were LONG gone

Welcome back!
JAKE001  [Member]
1/31/2012 3:51:18 PM
Signed up for GFH Class in Randolph on 2-26-12. Thanks for the info!!
remixer69  [Team Member]
2/2/2012 2:34:14 PM
I might be confused.. Taking a Carry class in or for NJ seems pointless since its impossible to get a carry here....

please explain
mak0  [Team Member]
2/2/2012 4:08:08 PM
Originally Posted By remixer69:
I might be confused.. Taking a Carry class in or for NJ seems pointless since its impossible to get a carry here....

please explain


With a FL and/or UT permit it allows you to carry in quite a few states (39 IIRC with both permits) including DE and PA.
ccrainman  [Member]
2/2/2012 4:31:21 PM
Originally Posted By remixer69:
I might be confused.. Taking a Carry class in or for NJ seems pointless since its impossible to get a carry here....

please explain


If you do a lot of traveling. It comes in handy.
ctrmass  [Member]
2/2/2012 5:43:09 PM
Quote: having a permit valid there is useful.

I thought the AG stopped Pa from issuing permits to NJ residents. ??
DWFAN  [Team Member]
2/2/2012 6:28:52 PM
Originally Posted By ctrmass:
Quote: having a permit valid there is useful.

I thought the AG stopped Pa from issuing permits to NJ residents. ??


PA doesn't issue non resident permits to NJ residents.

However, if you have a non resident permit from Fla or Utah you can CCW in PA
remixer69  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 10:44:51 AM
So you don't need to be a resident of Florida to get a carry that will be honored by many other states? do you need to visit Florida to complete it?

Im assuming the second point would be if NJ started honoring then we would be able to carry in NJ.
DWFAN  [Team Member]
2/3/2012 10:51:15 AM
Originally Posted By remixer69:
So you don't need to be a resident of Florida to get a carry that will be honored by many other states? do you need to visit Florida to complete it?

Im assuming the second point would be if NJ started honoring then we would be able to carry in NJ.


That is correct...PA honors Fla and Utah non resident permits.

No, you do not have to go to Fla or Utah to complete anything...remember it's a non-resident permit.

ctrmass  [Member]
2/4/2012 9:23:53 AM
Thanks, I understand that.
He just made it sound as if Pa was issuing to NJ residents....which was stopped a while ago by then NJ AG Eric Holder.
Tom488  [Team Member]
2/4/2012 3:47:39 PM
Originally Posted By ctrmass:
He just made it sound as if Pa was issuing to NJ residents....which was stopped a while ago by then NJ AG Eric Holder.

No... Holder was never NJ's AG. And the NJ AG would have no authority to tell PA whether or not to issue PA LTCF's (License to Carry Firearms) to NJ residents. What prevents PA sheriffs from doing so is PA's own laws... which says that if a resident's home state issues carry permits, then one must obtain a carry permit from their home state before receiving a PA non-resident LTCF.
5thCavGuy  [Member]
2/5/2012 9:27:40 AM
Originally Posted By ctrmass:
He just made it sound as if Pa was issuing to NJ residents...


In fact, I did no such thing.

Title of the thread begins with "Utah Carry Permit" and I replied to another poster "I travel to PA quite a bit, and having a permit valid there is useful."

Originally Posted By ctrmass:
...which was stopped a while ago by then NJ AG Eric Holder.


Not even going to try fixing that...
ctrmass  [Member]
2/5/2012 7:02:28 PM
You werent the "he" and I'm too tired to re read everything.
I just wanted to know if Pa was issuing to Nj again, not start a pizzin contest.