NYS Pistol/legal question

I'm 17 years old and live in NYS with my parents. I shoot competitive skeet and rifle. I would like to shoot a 3 gun shoot. Buti clearly dont have a pistol permit. Both my parents do and my father shoots in a pistol league. I heard of youths being able to shoot in compotion. If so what thing do i need to do/ rules i need to follow? thanks fo any advice. Also what do i have to do to practice?

What county are you in?

No pistol license is required if you're at least 14 and less than 21 years of age as well as meeting the other conditions as specified in PL 265.20.

NYS PL

§ 265.20 Exemptions.

a. Sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05, 265.10, 265.11,
265.12, 265.13, 265.15 and 270.05 shall not apply to:

1. Possession of any of the weapons, instruments, appliances or
substances specified in sections 265.01, 265.02, 265.03, 265.04, 265.05
and 270.05 by the following:

.........................

7. Possession, at an indoor or outdoor shooting range for the purpose
of loading and firing, of a rifle or shotgun, the propelling force of
which is gunpowder by a person under sixteen years of age but not under
twelve, under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of (a)
a duly commissioned officer of the United States army, navy, air force,
marine corps or coast guard, or of the national guard of the state of
New York; or (b) a duly qualified adult citizen of the United States who
has been granted a certificate as an instructor in small arms practice
issued by the United States army, navy, air force or marine corps, or by
the adjutant general of this state, or by the national rifle association
of America, a not-for-profit corporation duly organized under the laws
of this state; or (c) a parent, guardian, or a person over the age of
eighteen designated in writing by such parent or guardian who shall have
a certificate of qualification in responsible hunting, including safety,
ethics, and landowner relations-hunter relations, issued or honored by
the department of environmental conservation; or (d) an agent of the
department of environmental conservation appointed to conduct courses in
responsible hunting practices pursuant to article eleven of the
environmental conservation law.

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7-a. Possession and use, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located
in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization
organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small
arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or
approved by the national rifle association for the purpose of loading
and firing the same, by a person duly licensed to possess a pistol or
revolver pursuant to section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter of a
pistol or revolver duly so licensed to another person who is present at
the time.

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7-e. Possession and use of a pistol or revolver, at an indoor or
outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a
duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to
foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting
competition under the auspices of or approved by an association or
organization described in paragraph 7-a of this subdivision for the
purpose of loading and firing the same by a person at least fourteen
years of age but under the age of twenty-one who has not been previously
convicted of a felony or serious offense, and who does not appear to be,
or pose a threat to be, a danger to himself or to others; provided
however, that such possession shall be of a pistol or revolver duly
licensed to and shall be used under the immediate supervision, guidance
and instruction of, a person specified in paragraph seven of this
subdivision.

Thanks alot for the advice. It helps alot. I live in niagara county.

I recommend that you take an NRA Basic Pistol Course. This course or its equivalent is usually a prereq for a 14-20 year old to shoot at a range. It also may satisfy the pistol safety course requirement in many counties that require a safety course when you apply for your pistol license. See if you can find a local range that gives the course for $50-$75. If you were down county I'd have a recommendation for you.

http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx

Name : NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Course

Not to hijack the thread, but can you recommend any in Westchester that will do it for that price? Everybody seems to charge $125 to $150 for the course, and I have a few people who are interested.

Call Joe Cangelosi at the Blue Mountain Sportsmen Center for details: http://parks.westchestergov.com/blue-mountain-reservation/sportsman-center


IMO this is the best deal around.

Wappingers Falls: http://www.dcpistol.org/classes.html

http://www.dcpistol.org/pdf/2012-pistol-course-flyer.pdf

I thought Westchester County will only accept the course if it's done by somebody in Westchester?

Also, their rules say: "Pistol License required for persons 21 years old and over" ,,, that will obviously not fly since WC requires the course before a gun can be handled/applied for.

WC now requires that the course (no live fire) be done by a NRA instructor who has provided proof to WC that he/she is certified as a NRA pistol (LE or non LE) instructor.

There is no live fire if you don't have a permit.

Some instructors will provide the required WC Basic Pistol safety component sign-off and after your license is issued they will put you through the required range live fire component and issue the course completion certificate.


There is an exemption in PL265.20 that authorizes a licensing officer to allow an unlicensed person to fire a handgun at a range under an authorized persons supervision or at an organized pistol competition.

PL265.20

7-b. Possession and use, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located
in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization
organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small
arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or
approved by the national rifle association for the purpose of loading
and firing the same, by a person who has applied for a license to
possess a pistol or revolver and pre-license possession of same pursuant
to section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter, who has not been previously
denied a license, been previously convicted of a felony or serious
offense, and who does not appear to be, or pose a threat to be, a danger
to himself or to others, and who has been approved for possession and
use herein in accordance with section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter;
provided however, that such possession shall be of a pistol or revolver
duly licensed to and shall be used under the supervision, guidance and
instruction of, a person specified in paragraph seven of this
subdivision and provided further that such possession and use be within
the jurisdiction of the licensing officer with whom the person has made
application therefor or within the jurisdiction of the superintendent of
state police in the case of a retired sworn member of the division of
state police who has made an application pursuant to section 400.01 of
this chapter.


§ 400.00 Licenses to carry, possess, repair and dispose of firearms.

(b) Application for an exemption under paragraph seven-b of
subdivision a of section 265.20 of this chapter. Each applicant desiring
to obtain the exemption set forth in paragraph seven-b of subdivision a
of section 265.20 of this chapter shall make such request in writing of
the licensing officer with whom his application for a license is filed,
at the time of filing such application. Such request shall include a
signed and verified statement by the person authorized to instruct and
supervise the applicant, that has met with the applicant and that he has
determined that, in his judgment, said applicant does not appear to be
or poses a threat to be, a danger to himself or to others. He shall
include a copy of his certificate as an instructor in small arms, if he
is required to be certified, and state his address and telephone number.
He shall specify the exact location by name, address and telephone
number where such instruction will take place. Such licensing officer
shall, no later than ten business days after such filing, request the
duly constituted police authorities of the locality where such
application is made to investigate and ascertain any previous criminal
record of the applicant pursuant to subdivision four of this section.
Upon completion of this investigation, the police authority shall report
the results to the licensing officer without unnecessary delay. The
licensing officer shall no later than ten business days after the
receipt of such investigation, determine if the applicant has been
previously denied a license, been convicted of a felony, or been
convicted of a serious offense, and either approve or disapprove the
applicant for exemption purposes based upon such determinations. If the
applicant is approved for the exemption, the licensing officer shall
notify the appropriate duly constituted police authorities and the
applicant. Such exemption shall terminate if the application for the
license is denied, or at any earlier time based upon any information
obtained by the licensing officer or the appropriate police authorities
which would cause the license to be denied. The applicant and
appropriate police authorities shall be notified of any such
terminations.

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