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nickforney  [Team Member]
12/11/2010 5:58:29 AM
Maybe asked a million times maybe they are all over the place but I haven't seen them. In the noveske trailer I see double stacked shotgun rounds looks like each one is just 2 shells going verticle. Anyone have info on these. I run mark ottos and am happy with them but I had never seen this style used before. I have been out of the game due to a euro duty station then being downrange for a year so sorry for the ignorance. Any info would be great looking forward to looking over the video when it comes out.
GorillaTactical  [Member]
12/11/2010 1:49:12 PM
They are not readily available here in the states....Ty Gentry (of Triangle Shooting) and NST are the only guys I've seen running them in the states. Ty told me he got it from the German "National" Team at the Pan Am Shotgun Challenge....the principle is, that you take and stuff the 2 shells...you can get four loaded with less excess movement...never seen the NST use it in person, but Ty was FAST with it up at the Arkansas Championship (he took 3rd in Tactical)
Cold  [Team Member]
12/11/2010 4:32:28 PM

Originally Posted By nickforney:
Maybe asked a million times maybe they are all over the place but I haven't seen them. In the noveske trailer I see double stacked shotgun rounds looks like each one is just 2 shells going verticle. Anyone have info on these. I run mark ottos and am happy with them but I had never seen this style used before. I have been out of the game due to a euro duty station then being downrange for a year so sorry for the ignorance. Any info would be great looking forward to looking over the video when it comes out.

Nick,

I have been flirting with that belt for Standard Manual shotgun. It sounds like a few of us will be going to Europe next summer for the ESC in Standard Manual and I am probably going to run the "load two" belt there.
Its another technique for loading the shotgun, thats why its in the video.


"The Load Two" is what its called. I got it from;

Site is

http://www.chameleon-fabrics.cz/

email is
info@chameleon-fabrics.com


Its on the front page of their site, your overseas, might be able to find it easier than stateside.

PM me if I can answer any more questions.



jtielke  [Team Member]
12/11/2010 7:51:54 PM
Mark Otto and Ty were both running this style at Fort Benning last weekend. I think Mark said he was coming out with a production version of his rig soon.
nickforney  [Team Member]
12/12/2010 6:39:27 AM
Im intrigued by them now I like to shoot heavy metal and feel like this could be a good loading system I like that mark wants start making some. Maybe we will see those in the future. Im in germany and haven't really hit any 'shooting' stores because of the fact that it is very hard for soldiers to shoot here. I know that there is one store that has sporting shot guns and a bunch of air soft stuff so maybe I will stop in. Would be good to see if I can get a rig here rather than trying to find it in the states and ship it over.
Cold  [Team Member]
12/12/2010 1:31:29 PM

Originally Posted By nickforney:
Im intrigued by them now I like to shoot heavy metal and feel like this could be a good loading system I like that mark wants start making some. Maybe we will see those in the future. Im in germany and haven't really hit any 'shooting' stores because of the fact that it is very hard for soldiers to shoot here. I know that there is one store that has sporting shot guns and a bunch of air soft stuff so maybe I will stop in. Would be good to see if I can get a rig here rather than trying to find it in the states and ship it over.

For a pump gun, the "load two" is pretty fast. I saw it first hand over the course of a 4 day match shooting with the Italians this summer.
nickforney  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 4:20:57 AM
Very good stuff. I hadn't even realized who you were Im not as active in shot shooting as I used to be wish I had stayed up on it more shot a lot of clays and upland growing up in Iowa but now I need to up my game and work on it again. It will be good to be state side and get a chance to work on it. If you are trying to get your hands on anything in particular that is easier to get over here let me know I was thinking about making a run over to Prague over the christmas time and can see if there is a particular gun shop there that can help out.

How much work did you put in on the up and coming video? There seems to have been little talk on it and am curious as to what it will be getting into if it is supposed to be more of a training video or one showing off the greatness that is the NST.
Cold  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 12:11:30 PM

Originally Posted By nickforney:
Very good stuff. I hadn't even realized who you were Im not as active in shot shooting as I used to be wish I had stayed up on it more shot a lot of clays and upland growing up in Iowa but now I need to up my game and work on it again. It will be good to be state side and get a chance to work on it. If you are trying to get your hands on anything in particular that is easier to get over here let me know I was thinking about making a run over to Prague over the christmas time and can see if there is a particular gun shop there that can help out.

How much work did you put in on the up and coming video? There seems to have been little talk on it and am curious as to what it will be getting into if it is supposed to be more of a training video or one showing off the greatness that is the NST.

Its 3 gun specific video (not a highlight video) and is aimed at helping 3 gunners (or those wanting to get into the game for that matter) improve their game. Rob Romero does 90% of the video. I usually play the dummy student/new guy while he is going over various topics. I've been in school for awhile so playing a student comes naturally to me
nickforney  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 2:49:54 PM
Still very cool to be a part of it. A highlight real wouldn't be bad but I think NST has a lot to offer in terms of teaching up and comers or people who haven't taken the plunge yet. Hit up three sporting shops in the local area here. Not a lot of competitive style shooters here mainly hunters but the third and final shop was much better than the other two. He gave me the email and phone to his distributer for most of the Bavarian area and was quite helpful even though his catalogs couldn't help me out. In the end I at least got to play with his HK MR rifle in 308 as well as a little suppressed MP5. So not a total waste of the day I suppose. I will send out an email to the distribution guy tonight and see what else he can do for me.
hrt4me  [Team Member]
12/19/2010 8:20:00 PM
Originally Posted By nickforney:
Still very cool to be a part of it. A highlight real wouldn't be bad but I think NST has a lot to offer in terms of teaching up and comers or people who haven't taken the plunge yet. Hit up three sporting shops in the local area here. Not a lot of competitive style shooters here mainly hunters but the third and final shop was much better than the other two. He gave me the email and phone to his distributer for most of the Bavarian area and was quite helpful even though his catalogs couldn't help me out. In the end I at least got to play with his HK MR rifle in 308 as well as a little suppressed MP5. So not a total waste of the day I suppose. I will send out an email to the distribution guy tonight and see what else he can do for me.


Where are you currently stationed? I may be able to put you in touch with some German colleagues who shoot IPSC and 3-Gun at their national level.
nickforney  [Team Member]
12/20/2010 4:46:09 AM
I am in schwienfurt about 2 hours from frankfurt. I tried to get a hold of camelion but have not gotten a reply from them yet about the load two system.
hrt4me  [Team Member]
12/20/2010 8:16:05 AM
Originally Posted By nickforney:
I am in schwienfurt about 2 hours from frankfurt. I tried to get a hold of camelion but have not gotten a reply from them yet about the load two system.


I'm very familiar with Schweinfurt, as my relatives live about 18 miles down the road from you in Bad Kissingen, which is like my second home.

I'll reach out to some German colleagues. Do you have any German language fluency? Do you plan to attend IWA in Nürnberg in March?
nickforney  [Team Member]
12/21/2010 7:17:10 AM
I will be back in america come march. German is a no. I have a translator though. If anyone else is seriously interested in one of these hit me up and I will attempt to get more than one. It will be much easier for me to ship from base than try and get it shipped from germany mixed with tax or export nonsense.

BK is a beautiful place to call a second home. I am a big time motorcycle guy and love riding through that entire area. I also have friends in bad nuestadt that is just down the road as well.
Remington3Gun  [Member]
1/20/2011 11:40:50 AM
Does anyone have video of the "two load" being used?

GorillaTactical  [Member]
1/20/2011 12:59:58 PM
Originally Posted By Remington3Gun:
Does anyone have video of the "two load" being used?



The NST video appears that it will
nickforney  [Team Member]
1/22/2011 1:42:37 PM
Still can't find anyone selling it over here. Getting a bit down because of that. Chris at 3gunstuff had a teaser about something new coming out soon but doesn't say what it is until after shot really hoping it is the Mark Otto one mentioned above.
Cold  [Team Member]
1/22/2011 10:42:04 PM

Originally Posted By GorillaTactical:
Originally Posted By Remington3Gun:
Does anyone have video of the "two load" being used?



The NST video appears that it will

Rob & I demo two different approaches to the 2x2 reload in the vid.