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Posted: 4/21/2008 9:43:10 AM EDT
I have a Norinco Hunter (Type I) with the long trigger and trigger guard. I would like to
convert it to a normal AK trigger and guard so normal AK furniture can be used. I assume I would have to make sure my parts count was right. I am mainly concerned with the difficulty of a conversion like this. I think I could change out the trigger group and guard and drill the hole for the pistol grip. Has anyone done a conversion like this on the hunter? I have seen the Galil conversions but I am not interested in cutting and welding on the receiver. Thanks, Wayne |
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Ranchhand,
Very nice. What did you have to do to get the pistol grip attached and the trigger guard worked out? Thanks, Wayne |
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I got it this way. You will need to remove the old trigger guard and mag catch assy, the new one is 1 piece. I believe that you will need to add a hole for the rear trigger guard rivet then you use the old hole for the grip.
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Since you have to modify it anyway, you might check Cheaper Than Dirt. They had a Cetme/HK furniture set for $10 that you might be able to modify.
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Not while I breathe.
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not many people convert these rifles because it isnt easy at all. it can be done, just keep at it and keep us updated.
sorry im not much help, i just wanted to keep encouraging you. |
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I went to their site and searched but did not locate this. Do you have a link? Thanks! Wayne Found it. Very interesting. I may have to think about that. I got my black polymer butt stock but it is TINY! It is almost 4 inches shorter than the hunter stock! |
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A little more progress. I worked on the butt stock and made it work but there are some gaps such that it does no make a smooth transition from the receiver to the stock plus it is WAY too short. I may end up reshaping the original and painting it black.
I printed out a AK builder template and taped it to my receiver to locate the trigger guard rear hole and the pistol grip attachment block. The trigger guard hole was easy but the hole for the pistol grip attachment was a challenge. I needed a rectangular hole and the old rear trigger guard hole was in the middle of it. I ended up drilling several holes around the perimeter of the location indicated on the template, clearing out the remaining metal between the drill holes and then hand filing the final shape of the hole. The task was not helped by the fact that I could not find my dremel tool! It is shaping up nicely. I have the pistol grip installed and it is great. Here are some pics: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2808/dscn1871cy1.th.jpg http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2892/dscn1872ho2.th.jpg Things remaining to do: 1. 2. 3. I plan on going out shooting next weekend and plan to try it out then! -Wayne |
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Dinzag Arms makes handguard retainers for use on Saiga conversions, these might work with your hunter too.
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Thanks for the lead. The retainer looks good but is a little pricey. It did lead me search for other Saiga hand guards and I found a Tapco Galil style like the one I have but with integrated barrel clamp for $44.95. -Wayne |
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hi,
Ypu can purchase a retainer for your project from copes distributing as well as most other AK needs. There shipping is very affordable. I would press the SB and GB off and do it rite. The TAPCO HG and Retainer looks like a hunk of metal. The press work is easy and yor can complete with an auto keygrip puller set. Hargor freight has them for 9.99. Here is a pic of my AK was a saiga http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/jroberts1968/PICT0011-1.jpg The first 2 are Wasr 2 and my 5.45x39 7.62x39 556x45 7.62x51 http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/jroberts1968/Picture004.jpg http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/jroberts1968/PICT0001.jpg |
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how is the conv comming?
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The milled Norinco Hunter I bought should be here any day now.
Thanks for the pics.......Im eager to start my conversion. |
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Any updated pics?
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Well, I have finished mine. I ended up using a Tapco Saiga front handguard because it came with a retainer for the front of the handguard. I ended up using some 3/8in by 1 1/2in aluminum flat stock to make a rear retainer for the handguard. Here are some pics:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/8701/dscn1923zl6.th.jpg http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4531/dscn1922ma2.th.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1530/dscn1925jx1.th.jpg In the last image you can see the aluminum piece I made for a rear retainer. I am very pleased with how my Hunter turned out. I need to decide what kind of finish I want for it. I am torn between just touching up the bluing and going all out for parkerizing. I learned a lot doing this and even used a wire feed welder to secure the modified trigger guard, which was my first time ever to weld anything. I got my Saiga foregrip here: http://www.militarygunsupply.com/shop2/ But you can also get it direct from Tapco. Here are the parts I ended up with: Double hook US trigger group TAPCO SAW-Style Pistol Grip AK-47 Synthetic Black TAPCO Saiga Galil Style Handguard TAPCO gas piston K-VAR NATO length length Black polymer buttstock So I have 7 US parts on the gun and that should be MORE than enough and now the Hunter looks like a Killer!!-Wayne |
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nice Ive had mine on the back burner now for too long. I need to get crackin. |
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Here are a few more pictures on what I did to get a butt stock to work and the aluminum plate I made to secure the foregrip. First I noticed that stamped receiver butt stocks looked very similar to the Hunters at the part that goes into the receiver. The Hunter receiver is kind of unique so I knew that no matter what I would have to do modifications if I wanted a US made stock. Here is a photo of the original stock along side my modified KVAR NATO length polymer stock:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8654/dscn1993iu6.th.jpg I had to trim the polymer stock a little to fit into the milled receiver, wish my cuts were better: http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2798/dscn1994mr5.th.jpg http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8554/dscn1995lj8.th.jpg Here are some closeups of the stock in the receiver: http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6568/dscn1992gr2.th.jpg http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8433/dscn1991sh8.th.jpg For the fore grip retention I made a piece out of some flat aluminum. Because I am an idiot I drilled one side too big to tap and I didn't have any helicoils so I reused the screw and nut used to retain the original Hunter fore grip. I also had to drill a hole in the fore grip but It is not too bad. http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7311/dscn1998yw8.th.jpg http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8080/dscn1997dx8.th.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/82/dscn2000cn0.th.jpg http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9097/dscn1999dk5.th.jpg The fore grip has a funny shape that I had to match which is why there is a bevel in the aluminum piece: http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2682/dscn2001lb9.th.jpg http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9823/dscn2002ip2.th.jpg And another gratuitous fully assembled pic: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3129/dscn1990th8.th.jpg Hope this helps explain what I did to convert my Hunter. -Wayne ps. Couldn't resist posting a picture of my assistant and the real killer of the family: http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1153/dscn2004ou0.th.jpg Not the Glock21 but my toy poodle Jax. So far this summer he has killed 2 rabbits, 3 lizards and a snake. He's my little 8 pound bad ass! |
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OK I have custom built quite a few rifles...I just bought a norinco hunter to convert to a "real" AK style weapon. I will also keep this post updated with pics. anyone finish theirs yet?
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Very nice guys!
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I converted a hunter by cutting off the slanted rear end and welding on a Yugo rear. I also installed a standard chinese barrel.
Question: Do all mags fit loose in the hunter? All my mags wobble side to side. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/3285DSC07124.JPG |
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My mags seem good even the Galil mags sit well with little side at all.
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unfortunately I don't have any pic's that show each step.
I'm not sure where I got the rear trunnion but the Yugo stock might have come from an insurgent's rifle. He didn't need it anymore. I measured 5 times before cutting and welded it up with my flux core buuz box. Chinese barrel and misc. handgaurds. I'm planning on getting an ACE folder and railed handgaurds someday. |
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I'm the 'lucky' owner of a NH with a broken trigger. I've looked under every rock on the Internet trying to find one. I know I could have a conversion done, but I'm seriously short of cash. Anybody refer me to anywhere that even has one used one for sale? I eagerly read every thread I can find about a DIY conversion, but welding receivers, metal work, and fabrication are far beyond my skill set. As this is the one exception to the 'plug-and-play AK' I'm stumped.
Numrich/e-gunparts? Nope. No love. Any ideas? |
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Originally Posted By 762AP: So I got around to pressing the barrel out so my Class 2 could thread and finish the muzzle. I used a cheap 14/1 thread AR type flash hider to keep the looks of the Galil, then the refinish. Turned out decent. I'll take it out this weekend and run some through. http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/93105.jpg http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/93106.jpg That does look rather nice........let us know how she does. |
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I was going to comment about your gun- but would rather discuss the hottie laying on the couch in the garter belt in your file shack album. I clicked on your first pic to enlarge it and was taken to your album and bam! Nice work!
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Originally Posted By 762AP:
Guess I should have posted this here instead of in the Duscussion forum. I finished it: Just got the rear piece of the Galil receiver welded on, filed down and refinished. I'm pleased with the project, took a while and a lot of work, but looks good. http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/000_6799.jpg http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/000_6800.jpg http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/000_6801.jpg http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/000_6802.jpg Beautiful !! |
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Originally Posted By evlblkwpnz:
One of the original screws was missing when I bought it. Anyone happen to have some left over from a conversion? I just got your e-mail.........no prob , I got em buddy Shoot me your address and they're yours |
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tagged for inspiration to mod my Hunter (though I think it's pretty damn sweet as-is)
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I owned a few.....three new in box dirst cheap with the green wood and the three five round mags from a gun store closing in the mid nineties,sold them as collecters and used the money to buy preban AKs
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Originally Posted By 762AP:
Here's one I just redid as an ARM. I posted pics of it as an AR once I got the rear receiver part welded on, now it's complete Ooooooh, bipod! http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv235/762AP2/000_8149.jpg Looking good ! |
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WHAT are you guys using for the front sight/gas block? I've given up on my "Tabuk lite" approach, and would like to know what front end hardware you all are using.
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I'm in the same boat, my bolt and nuts flew off while i put my hunter on the atv cradle. If anyone still has a few i will gladly pay
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Originally Posted By Slap_Fire:
I'm in the same boat, my bolt and nuts flew off while i put my hunter on the atv cradle. If anyone still has a few i will gladly pay Sorry buddy , I gave away the set I had to another ARFcommer in need , earlier in this thread |
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