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Posted: 7/12/2023 3:13:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hta106]
Recently sold my only AK that shot 5.45.
I have a couple sealed tins of 7n6 and an ammo cans full of an opened tin. It’s little bundles wrapped in brown paper stacked in ammo cans. Quick search on ammoseek shows like .80c/rd but what’s the real world price? Would like to move it all in one shot. |
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SGAmmo has new Tula for $0.73/round shipped...
That would be a good benchmark. |
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I tried that whole cancer thing. It wasn't for me. Good Riddance.
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I recently valued my 7n6 at $0.54/rnd sold in bulk, based on GunBroker prices. Maybe I should up that for insurance replacement purposes.
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"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
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I'll give ya 6 hundred for the lot + shipping if you wanna dump it.
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Remy wont let me down like Mia did.
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Sold a couple cans on GB for $550.00, plus tax and shipping. Local gun classifieds it's sitting at $500.00 per can.
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Did all the loose packs come out of the same tin?
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The Russian stuff in the tin and paper bundles is steel cored ammo, if that makes a difference to anybody.
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Originally Posted By T18B40: The Russian stuff in the tin and paper bundles is steel cored ammo, if that makes a difference to anybody. View Quote |
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"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
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Would that be marked on the wooden cases and tins if it was Bulgarian 7N6M?
As I might need to double check some just in case. Didn’t even realize it existed. |
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Originally Posted By Buffman_LT1: I've come across quite a bit of 7n6M of the Bulgarian variety View Quote According to the European collectors I know who study Soviet and WP ammunition, only the USSR/Russia made the 7n6M. There are questions if they actually switched over to the M at all, as no confirmed examples are known. The Bulgarian 5.45 surplus with '90 and '91 dates that came in were regular 7n6 pattern. If you have some with a confirmed, hardened core, I'd love to examine it for my collection. |
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Originally Posted By 1Devildog: According to the European collectors I know who study Soviet and WP ammunition, only the USSR/Russia made the 7n6M. There are questions if they actually switched over to the M at all, as no confirmed examples are known. The Bulgarian 5.45 surplus with '90 and '91 dates that came in were regular 7n6 pattern. If you have some with a confirmed, hardened core, I'd love to examine it for my collection. View Quote Headstamp 10/92 Bullet Weight: 53.5gr Bullet Length: .996" Core Weight: 22.2gr Core Length: .598" Core Diameter: .1625" Hardness: 54/57 RHC (tested two spots) Material Makeup: 1.00% Mn 98.76% FE .032% MO 5.45x39mm 7N6 by Buffman RANGE, on Flickr 5.45x39mm 7N6 by Buffman RANGE, on Flickr |
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Fantastic information! With your permission, I'd like to share this with the cartridge collector community.
I'm sure it will be a revelation. FWIW, I'm told all Soviet/Russian production dated 1987 and later is of the "M" variety. A Ukrainian soldier and ordnance expert I'm an acquaintance of has recently confirmed 1995 dated 7n6M. |
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Originally Posted By 1Devildog: Fantastic information! With your permission, I'd like to share this with the cartridge collector community. I'm sure it will be a revelation. FWIW, I'm told all Soviet/Russian production dated 1987 and later is of the "M" variety. A Ukrainian soldier and ordnance expert I'm an acquaintance of has recently confirmed 1995 dated 7n6M. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Buffman_LT1: I've found most Bulgarian late 91 and 92 have the hardened core. Headstamp 10/92 Bullet Weight: 53.5gr Bullet Length: .996" Core Weight: 22.2gr Core Length: .598" Core Diameter: .1625" Hardness: 54/57 RHC (tested two spots) Material Makeup: 1.00% Mn 98.76% FE .032% MO https://live.staticflickr.com/4284/35299208152_3d094ebc12_z.jpg5.45x39mm 7N6 by Buffman RANGE, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/4258/35465947355_fabab8c234_z.jpg5.45x39mm 7N6 by Buffman RANGE, on Flickr View Quote @Buffman_LT1 Still sorting out my 7n6 and looking for 7n6M in the stash- Any idea on how to tell early vs late ‘91 Circle 10 stuff from crate/tin markings? All I can find is lot/year/plant and the type/lot/year for the powder. Maybe by powder lot number? (Low vs high, assuming they went in order? Not that I can read the powder type anyhow). Just trying to see it there is any way to tell vs testing some from each different lot I guess. Looks like I have some ‘91 and ‘92 Circle 10 tins, plus a ‘93 as well. All the rest is either older or late 70’s various Soviet plants so I know they will be the regular 7n6. Also I do need to go check my range box and loaded mags to make sure I am not shooting up the better stuff while blasting paper! Then I have a couple small 40mm cans full of paper wrapped 30 rd bundles to check as well, but all of that likely will be earlier Soviet stuff, (though I certainly won’t mind if some of the M variant got mixed in with it…) Also- almost forgot to ask 2 other things: Have you done any testing on the 7n6 vs 7n6M performance wise? And you mentioned the hardness reading on the M stuff, any idea where the hardness of the regular stuff comes in at? Thanks for all the prior info, I was happy when I found stuff that appears to be the M variant! |
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2021 can’t come soon enough!
Edit- well maybe 2020 wasn’t so bad after all..... |
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Originally Posted By tac556: @Buffman_LT1 Still sorting out my 7n6 and looking for 7n6M in the stash- Any idea on how to tell early vs late '91 Circle 10 stuff from crate/tin markings? All I can find is lot/year/plant and the type/lot/year for the powder. Maybe by powder lot number? (Low vs high, assuming they went in order? Not that I can read the powder type anyhow). Just trying to see it there is any way to tell vs testing some from each different lot I guess. Looks like I have some '91 and '92 Circle 10 tins, plus a '93 as well. All the rest is either older or late 70's various Soviet plants so I know they will be the regular 7n6. Also I do need to go check my range box and loaded mags to make sure I am not shooting up the better stuff while blasting paper! Then I have a couple small 40mm cans full of paper wrapped 30 rd bundles to check as well, but all of that likely will be earlier Soviet stuff, (though I certainly won't mind if some of the M variant got mixed in with it ) Also- almost forgot to ask 2 other things: Have you done any testing on the 7n6 vs 7n6M performance wise? And you mentioned the hardness reading on the M stuff, any idea where the hardness of the regular stuff comes in at? Thanks for all the prior info, I was happy when I found stuff that appears to be the M variant! View Quote Typical 7N6 Hardness: 44/48 RHB (tested two spots) Material Makeup: .416% Mn 96.26% FE .390% CU 1.90% ZN .830% PB You can see it defeat a plate here: Adept Thunder NIJ 07 RF2 / III+ Armor Here is 7N6 being stopped by a 100% pure PE plate. Militech NIJ Level III (+) Armor Can It Stop 7N6? |
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