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Posted: 7/28/2006 6:10:15 AM EDT

[#1]

Very nice and exactly what I was planning on putting together next!

Posted: 7/28/2006 7:18:52 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:

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So a truly "IDF Carbine" in it'a original form, would have the A1 or C7 type upper, the featherweight early type carbine barrel, first issue HGs and stock, all on an A1 type lower.

The 723 came with an A2 lower, and an A2 grip.

Here's an IDF shot. Looks like a 653--has a tear drop forward assist, no case deflector, so it's an M16A1 upper receiver (not the C7/modified A1 upper).

i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/d8006/IDF.jpg

OMG!!! The dust cover is closed!! (for those that remember that thread...

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Also note the tape on the stock latch to keep it locked shut. I'll bet they'd be all over the CTR if they could be.

ID tape on the magazines.

Elastic retaining bands on the handguards.

You start to see a lot of common elements in the soldier applied accessory department. Like the tape and elastic bands and such.

Posted: 7/28/2006 7:54:31 AM EDT

[#3]

Does anyone make an A1 upper with M4 feedramps, or will I just have to break out the dremel?

Posted: 7/28/2006 8:10:12 AM EDT

[#4]

Supposedly once CMMG sells out of their current A1 upper receivers, their next batch will have the M4 feed ramps.

Posted: 7/28/2006 8:42:40 AM EDT

[#5]

Mucho sweetness!!!! A man after my own heart!!!!

Posted: 7/28/2006 9:58:08 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lumpy196/A1TG.jpg

Teardrop FA replaced with an A2 round, and the A2 grip recently replaced with a Magpul MIAD. The Spectre 3-point was also replaced with a Blue Force Gear Vickers sling.

Nice barrel Lumpy! Where can I pick up an M4 barrel setup like that?

Posted: 7/29/2006 5:48:18 AM EDT

[#7]

Glad I found this thread. NICE RIFLES!!! This is EXACTLY what I've had in mind, and why I bought an A1 upper. I think I'm going with a midlength barrel though, although I really like the look of those early M4's. I thought the elastic bands on the mags was an interesting touch. Probably keeps 'em cooler to the touch in the hot sun, as well as giving a good grip and helping to keep sand out of the mag. Mine'll start out with my M14 sling, but I want to make one out of a cargo strap and some 550 cord. Can anyone share any closeups pics of how they tied them off? Seems like a half hitch through the FSB would be enough.

Posted: 7/29/2006 6:04:13 AM EDT

[#8]

Go here for a great FAQ/Howto on attaching the IDF Sling

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=166&t=148092

Posted: 7/29/2006 6:06:55 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
[Paris Hilton] "That's Hot". [/Paris Hilton]

Very nice. I want an upper like that.

One of my favorite photos.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Colt_SBR/Guns/WellusedM4A1.jpg

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Colt_SBR/57985sm.gif

What is that on the handguard? I have looked at some IDF sites and I see them alot but cant find any info on them. Anyone know?

Posted: 7/29/2006 7:09:28 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Nice barrel Lumpy! Where can I pick up an M4 barrel setup like that?

I ordered it direct from Bushmaster.

Posted: 7/29/2006 7:35:25 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Glad I found this thread. NICE RIFLES!!! This is EXACTLY what I've had in mind, and why I bought an A1 upper. I think I'm going with a midlength barrel though, although I really like the look of those early M4's. I thought the elastic bands on the mags was an interesting touch. Probably keeps 'em cooler to the touch in the hot sun, as well as giving a good grip and helping to keep sand out of the mag. Mine'll start out with my M14 sling, but I want to make one out of a cargo strap and some 550 cord. Can anyone share any closeups pics of how they tied them off? Seems like a half hitch through the FSB would be enough.

Posted: 7/29/2006 10:35:22 AM EDT

[#12]

More of an Air Force GAU/M4 hybrid.

I put this together a few years ago, it was super light.

Posted: 7/29/2006 7:52:06 PM EDT

[#13]

Finally got a picture of mine. With the IDF sling and magazine holder thingy..

My camera is finally crapping out.. couldn't get the light right on these either.

Oh well...

Posted: 7/30/2006 7:11:12 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Does anyone make an A1 upper with M4 feedramps, or will I just have to break out the dremel?

Colt/Diemaco

Posted: 7/30/2006 2:48:44 PM EDT

[#15]

I love the superlight barrel look. Now if it were 14.5" it would be the bomb!

Posted: 7/30/2006 2:51:58 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Does anyone make an A1 upper with M4 feedramps, or will I just have to break out the dremel?

Colt/Diemaco

Do you know where one can find one?

Posted: 7/30/2006 3:17:22 PM EDT

[#17]

c.

Quoted:

Quoted:
Does anyone make an A1 upper with M4 feedramps, or will I just have to break out the dremel?

Colt/Diemaco

Do you know where one can find one?

CMMG had some for a while.

Posted: 8/1/2006 5:52:17 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Supposedly once CMMG sells out of their current A1 upper receivers, their next batch will have the M4 feed ramps.

In the interest of helping you guys get what you want, I have taken it upon myself to help reduce CMMG's stock of non-M4 feed ramped A1 uppers. This Friday I will be purchasing at least one, maybe two.

I am doing it for the ARfcom children of course...

You can all thank me later

!

Posted: 8/1/2006 6:08:09 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
[Paris Hilton] "That's Hot". [/Paris Hilton]

Very nice. I want an upper like that.

One of my favorite photos.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Colt_SBR/Guns/WellusedM4A1.jpg

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Colt_SBR/57985sm.gif

What is that tape like stuff that I always see wrapped on IDF weapons. It looks to be made out of cloth I would die a happy man if I could find the Tape they use. It seems to be universal with IDF because I have seen it in a number of different pictures with a variety of different units

Posted: 8/1/2006 8:33:22 AM EDT

[#20]

eh...why not..........nice rifle btw

Posted: 8/5/2006 10:39:05 PM EDT

[#21]

Where does one obtain the IDF magazine thingy?

Posted: 8/5/2006 10:49:59 PM EDT

[#22]

My version of Kiss

Posted: 8/5/2006 10:52:10 PM EDT

[#23]

Never mind, found it...

www.zahal.org/rifle/p12.htm

Posted: 8/5/2006 11:06:11 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lumpy196/A1TG.jpg

Teardrop FA replaced with an A2 round, and the A2 grip recently replaced with a Magpul MIAD. The Spectre 3-point was also replaced with a Blue Force Gear Vickers sling.

Lumpy what brand of mag holder is that?

Posted: 8/7/2006 7:40:26 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Lumpy196/A1TG.jpg

Teardrop FA replaced with an A2 round, and the A2 grip recently replaced with a Magpul MIAD. The Spectre 3-point was also replaced with a Blue Force Gear Vickers sling.

Lumpy what brand of mag holder is that?

Spectre.

Posted: 8/7/2006 7:59:59 AM EDT

[#26]

My KISS build is basically a flat-top upper with a DCH, and Samson 2-piece FFHG with a 16" M4 barrel. It's not close to the IDF setup, but it's fairly simply in execution.

Posted: 8/12/2006 6:29:35 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

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Nice barrel Lumpy! Where can I pick up an M4 barrel setup like that?

I ordered it direct from Bushmaster.

Lumpy did you order the parts then assemble the upper or the whole upper?

I'm finishing up a build myself.

Posted: 8/12/2006 6:33:40 PM EDT

[#28]

It was a factory complete Bushmaster upper.

Posted: 8/12/2006 7:56:32 PM EDT

[#29]

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I love A1/M4 hybrids.

Needs M4 handguards and a 30rd mag tho

I have been looking at your AR for a while now with envy. So I had to go out and do some swapping.
Here is my A1/M4 hybrid.
Phessor

Posted: 8/12/2006 8:46:10 PM EDT

[#30]

Why don't those silly Israelies carry cocked and locked like the rest of the world?

hock.gif

Posted: 8/13/2006 6:37:28 AM EDT

[#31]

Here is my version of KISS.

Posted: 8/13/2006 7:17:02 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I love A1/M4 hybrids.

Needs M4 handguards and a 30rd mag tho

I have been looking at your AR for a while now with envy. So I had to go out and do some swapping.
Here is my A1/M4 hybrid.
Phessor

www.hunt101.com/img/426754-big.jpg

Turned out great

Posted: 8/13/2006 7:37:50 AM EDT

[#33]

i wish the AF would carry our 4's cocked and locked. we carry our 9's hot and on fire all the time

Posted: 8/13/2006 7:40:35 AM EDT

[#34]

Very nice AR's. I have one of these on my LONG list of AR15's to build before I die.

Posted: 8/14/2006 3:17:32 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
It was a factory complete Bushmaster upper.

Lumpy196

Is your Bushy barrel a 16" or is that a 14.5 with the SDI estended A2 FH ?

I've got an early Colt M16A1 upper on the way and found a Bushy 14.5 M4 barrel on the EE that has the mini y....which will be promptly cut off and replaced with the SDI extended A2

Mike

Posted: 8/14/2006 5:50:39 PM EDT

[#36]

Thanks guys. You made me spend my hard earned money.

I did it. My new Bushmaster A1/M4 hybrid is in the works.

Should have it very soon. 16" Bushmaster M4 style barrel and a Bushmaster A1/C7 upper receiver.

My Bushmaster lower is ready for it. I'll have the flattop and the A1/M4 upper for the lower.

I'm going to go through the carbine class with the new A1/M4 upper.

Photos to follow.

Posted: 8/16/2006 8:18:42 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
Is your Bushy barrel a 16" or is that a 14.5 with the SDI estended A2 FH ?

14.5 with a Yankee Hill Phantom 5C1

Posted: 8/16/2006 10:04:07 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Teardrop FA replaced with an A2 round, and the A2 grip recently replaced with a Magpul MIAD. The Spectre 3-point was also replaced with a Blue Force Gear Vickers sling.

I've always admired the way that gun looked. Simply beautiful!

Any chances of an updated pic?

Take care and stay safe,
Jeff

Posted: 8/16/2006 11:53:22 AM EDT

[#39]

Posted: 8/16/2006 12:53:45 PM EDT

[#40]

Nice picture Lumpy

Posted: 8/16/2006 2:46:43 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Hawkeye1/Guns/M4A1-1.jpg

Beautiful Blaster, Hawkeye

"Not nearly as cool as Lumpy."

I concur.......Close, but not quite

Posted: 8/16/2006 2:57:42 PM EDT

[#42]

You mean something like this?
ETA: RRA stock, cerroforge upper, Bushmaster barrel, Stinger lower, cardinal forge dch.
Barrel, hgs, dch, upper receiver, stock, all bought on the EE.

Quoted:
Does anybody have any pics to add of an IDF lightweight barrel and a flattop upper or have a personal carbine like this?

Posted: 8/16/2006 8:48:51 PM EDT

[#43]

Does it get anymore KISS than this?

Posted: 8/18/2006 12:31:33 PM EDT

[#44]

This may be a stupid newbie question, but before I buy an M4 barrel to go with my A1 upper, can someone tell me more about the vaunted 'M4 feedramp cuts'? I understand what they are, I'm just wondering if it will affect reliablity if i use a standard A1 (Martin Marietta) upper with an M4 barrel, w/o having the cuts. I have basically everything I need except the barrel. I'm pulling the 20" HBAR that lives on the upper soon as I get a barrel and saving it for a SPR project. I will be using a mil-spec 14.4" M4 barrel with long pinned FH. Thanks.

Posted: 8/18/2006 3:29:05 PM EDT

[#45]

Here's my start

Unmarked Colt M16A1 upper, there are 2 marking that I can't quite make out above and to the right of the port door. ???? something in a box over an upside down triangle.

Have a Bushy M4 barrel on the way and will see what kind of lower I can find this weekend at the fun show.

eta: any suggestions for a replacement aperture for the A1 sight ???

Posted: 8/18/2006 4:32:10 PM EDT

[#46]

Updated / better picture of mine....

Posted: 8/18/2006 4:53:33 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
Updated / better picture of mine....

coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/bbadmin-Album-1/slings_024c.sized.jpg

Beautiful Blaster Lancelot.....The pics look great.

A Vltor stock and a pair of Colt M4 handguards and that gun would be perfect

Posted: 8/19/2006 8:27:19 AM EDT

[#48]

Actually the IDF doesn't use the Vltor - yet. It does have a set of M4 handguards, but to impersonate the IDF it needs these. (At least for now)

It does want one of the new 14.5" 1/7 twist lightweight barrels that CMMG is now making. It told me so last night.

Funny I have guns with all the stuff on them. But this is the one that gets picked up and held the most. I'll have to build another one for my son. At least if I ever expect to shoot this one myself again....