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Posted: 9/10/2005 12:12:24 PM EDT
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Plus if these are ever adopted and put on M4s or whatever in the military, odds are those guns will have the front sling swivel. And I don't see our boys taking off a sling swivel for purely cosmetic reasons... |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 2:51:49 PM EDT
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altav- is that a rifle or midlength?
mattld- I was thinking that the KAC side sling swivels would be appropriate, especially to preserve the FF... I guess they made it FF because FF is cool, not so they could take strains away from the barrel... |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:15:36 PM EDT
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The MRP looks to be the skinniest from side to side. Is that right? Man, I would love a URXII.
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Posted: 9/10/2005 3:17:39 PM EDT
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It's a rifle length URX II wrapped around a 20" Krieger. |
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:29:33 PM EDT
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Other than its rarety, can anyone think of a reason to choose the URX2 over an MRP?
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:33:30 PM EDT
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Yeah- Chicks dig the desert bling color! just kidding. I have an MRP, but that URX2 gets me all googly eyed 
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:34:13 PM EDT
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URX II utilizes more standard parts. MRP has proprietary barrel (maybe a big deal), gas tube (maybe a big deal), and dust cover bar (not really a big deal).
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Posted: 9/10/2005 5:35:31 PM EDT
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I took my front sling swivel off for two reasons. I don't want the sling yanking on the barrel, and I dont want the swivel rattling around making noise. Neither are purely cosmetic IMO |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:42:06 AM EDT
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No, not quite. The laser just burns the brown colored dye out of the way so the base aluminum color shows through the anodized clear-coat. The base metal then is still protected by the hard-coat anodize palting. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:50:03 AM EDT
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I think the front sling swivel is there because its part of a GI FSB. It does not affect the FF nature of the forend unless extreme sling pressure is applied. Of course, alternative sling swivel adapters can be attached to the URX forend rails if one was to anticipate position target shooting events. The FSB Sling Swivel is also easy to remove, and in fact is pretty commonly removed as when the host weapon is assigned an M203. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:50:10 AM EDT
[#11]
That's what I was thinking. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 8:57:08 AM EDT
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Aside from the removable lower rail, what advantages does the URX offer over the Larue?
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:58:12 AM EDT
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The continuous upper rail similar to the MRP. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 12:12:37 PM EDT
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I know how easy it is to remove a sling swivel and how little stress a sling really does place on a barrel. I also know it's just as easy to add a swivel adapter to the side of the rail. But I still want to know why go through the troulble and design that freefloat forend and make room for a sling swivel that doesn't need to be there and most likely won't be? I think it's very stupid to remove the front few teeth of the underside of the FF forend so a swivel can sway to and fro... I can't wait to see the gucci gear surefire owners decide they don't want it because their flashlights/grip combo thingies have to be installed farther back now. Also, any bipod or other accessory will have to sit farther back.
Look at the top picture on this page (page 3)- It looks like it was machined only so that the swivel can lie all the way back tucked underneath. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 12:24:47 PM EDT
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Well, as a matter of fact, the bayonet lug on the GI barrels the URX-2 was designed for, require the cut at the front of the lower rail as well. it was not done solely for the swivel. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 12:51:08 PM EDT
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Looks can be deceiving, especialy if commercial non military grade rails are compaired to genuine higher military requirerments like the KAC product. Say for instance, the military have equipment not available to the general populas, like special lasers, lights, pistol grips, or a combo of all, that need certain space. KAC are not going to tell you why they did something that is in competition with others for large contracts, surfice to say they know what they are doing. Maybe they have an alternate hand guard that hasn't got the cut out, maybe it isn't a clearance for the sling swivel. Maybe the sling swivel was put on as subtafuge. KAC are not amatures like some of the other rail makers we see on here a lot  |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 1:38:52 PM EDT
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I'm all for the idea of a higher power knowing what they were doing, I just don't like having explained the purpose of a sling swivel or how easily they are removed by a third party to explain why KAC did what they did. I was hoping to get some speculative discussion going, not have someone explain to me the purpose of a sling swivel, no offense anyone.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:07:57 PM EDT
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I think the bottom line is it is what it is. Odds are 99.99999% of the civilians who want a URX II won't get one. So no need to worry about something that matters little in the grand scheme of things.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:14:13 PM EDT
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MRP is the slimer then the URX... |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 4:51:15 PM EDT
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how about compared to the DD, which as far as I know, is one of the slimmer ones...
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Posted: 9/12/2005 10:46:29 AM EDT
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The swivel can be easily reo=moved by the user. I just did not remove the swivel since it is a brand new LMT M4 upper. I could do a comparson of the DD rail vs. URX. DD will still be the slimest rail with MRP being second. URX is the same width as the RAS. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 11:42:28 AM EDT
[#22]
you guys make me sick on page 2
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Posted: 9/12/2005 4:22:32 PM EDT
[#23]
More Porn     AT SHOT  
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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:43:48 PM EDT
[#24]
So, civvies will never see the URX II? Why is that?
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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:53:55 PM EDT
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coldblue would be the best to ask
I think it is currently do to SOPMOD BlockII's RISII issues. Add in while KAC could sell a boatload to civilians, it is backlogged on .gov orders from the coalition of the willing... |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 8:02:18 PM EDT
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I asked KAC the same thing at Shot Show 2005, and was told it will be available eventually. They just dont have the production capability at the moment to supply the commercial market with them.
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Posted: 9/12/2005 8:16:56 PM EDT
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It will based on the military's final decision, KAC don't want to tool up for URX2 in those ultra expensive CNC they got laying around. If the military decided to pick the URX2 for their Block 2 RAS and decided some spec needs to be changed then those expensive tooling will go to waste. KAC is definitely waiting on the military before they act on the project.
As KevB said, KAC is swapped with mil order here and abroad. Last year at KAC, I probably seen fifty of those half mil CNC machine making nothing but RAS. I really like the URX, it is robust, it is light, and it has the most rigid platform a side from the MRP. you would be heard pressed to find this unit loosen up under use. The Rail slot is also indexed perfectly for optic work. once you used a rigid continous rail platform, you will never go back. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 8:19:12 PM EDT
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Kevin...is that your private shizzle or guvmint shizzle?
Simon |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 9:12:20 PM EDT
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Bit of both
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Posted: 9/13/2005 11:25:43 AM EDT
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Some pictures from the ShotShow this year.
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Posted: 9/13/2005 3:12:03 PM EDT
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am i counting 6 or 7 different colors and shades of anodizing? wow...
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Posted: 9/13/2005 3:46:55 PM EDT
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Got to remember it is still in development stage, lots of process to go through.... |
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Posted: 9/13/2005 6:28:07 PM EDT
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Can't wait...LOL. |
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