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Posted: 4/8/2024 11:00:43 AM EDT
Recently ordered the 5D tactical jig and bit set. I will be using a Dewalt DWP611. Am I assuming correctly the the end mill it uses replaces the collet system and screws directly to the router?
Also is drilling the FCG hole with the 5/32 bit perfectly fine or is it better to drill undersize and then ream? I think I've read somewhere that the actual FCG hole is actually a little smaller than 5/32 (0.15625). Also with the jig is using the router ok for the FCG hole or would it be much better to use my drill press, a Nova Viking 83700, and use the jig as a guide. With the jig do I have to still worry about the bit wondering and need to use a spot drill bit first? I've been thinking of getting a precision collet for my drill press, will probably pick up a Llambrich 4LHG5 keyless precision chuck at some point in the future if not for this. I do still need to get a Mitutoyo dial indicator so I can double check the run out of the chuck my drill press came with.
And speeds. It sounds like for drilling aluminum I should want somewhere in the 2-300 rpm speed, which my drill press can go down that low. And only need WD40 out of the can as a lubricant? Is WD40 even actually a lubricant I thought it was actually technically a water displacer?
For milling I'm finding it difficult to find the correct RPM. It seems like maybe either 13 or 15k? The Dewalt has a variable speed of about 16k up to about 27k, so I'm assuming I should set it to the lowest speed? Since I am using the Dewalt as a mill I'm guessing I should just spray a lot of the WD40 between each pass since I have no way to really give it a constant stream of spray.

I don't really have much actual machining hands on knowledge, but I do watch a lot of This Old Tony and every single Clickspring video that is put out. :) And I have used my router for some woodworking projects. I understand what is going on pretty well I think just not much actual real experience.
Link Posted: 4/9/2024 3:58:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/9/2024 4:15:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/13/2024 1:50:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks! That review link is pretty helpful and answered a few things.
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 9:10:51 PM EDT
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Go slow and be overly cautious.  Take the first one as a learning experience.  $40-60 for a lower is not the end of the world.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 1:52:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bionicmonkey] [#5]
For the fcg i found that 5/32 is fine but it is better to have a good quality short jobber length drill and keep it as close to the collet as possible.  Avoid using a chuck.  You dont want it wandering at all.

For the safety i had all kind of issues with the hole being accurate which improved a lot by using an endmill vs a bit.  The bits for 3/8 are just too long and pull the work because of the sharp angle.  An Endmill which can plunge cut gives me a better result.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 5:51:11 AM EDT
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Use a drill press to drill all the FCG holes, including the safety.  This will minimize bushing wear and ensure the holes are perpendicular
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 8:53:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mickdonaldson] [#7]
If your safety detent doesn't seat all the way, clear the channel out with a hand twisted 1/8" bit - Aluminum gets in there. Other than that, I had zero problems with 5D stuff on a DWP611 - used ample actual cutting fluid, and hand drilled the side holes with no problem.
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