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Posted: 10/18/2023 5:32:47 PM EDT
Looks like an updated tail switch to mimic Surefire. Same stats as original HL-X. If the new cap fixed the flickering and kept the same price point it’d be a good cheap option.

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Link Posted: 10/19/2023 9:42:48 AM EDT
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Looks interesting, especially the 50k candelas output.
Link Posted: 10/19/2023 1:26:12 PM EDT
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If you're forced to still use Streamlight's crappy pressure switches, it's still a no-go for me
Link Posted: 10/19/2023 1:27:13 PM EDT
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What's the release date for them?

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Link Posted: 10/19/2023 1:48:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJL0325:
If you're forced to still use Streamlight's crappy pressure switches, it's still a no-go for me
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It looks like it uses a crane plug so you'll be able to use most switches on the market.
Link Posted: 10/19/2023 1:53:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:


It looks like it uses a crane plug so you'll be able to use most switches on the market.
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Yep, it was a smart move allowing use of modlight and unity switches.

But man, I really wish the industry as a whole would get off the crane plug entirely, it's such a terrible design.
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 7:07:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
Yep, it was a smart move allowing use of modlight and unity switches.

But man, I really wish the industry as a whole would get off the crane plug entirely, it's such a terrible design.
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Yeah it definitely has it's draw backs, being so dated, but it also is hard to make a new standard and have everyone get on board with it.

Curious on how the Unity LINK system will turn out

https://www.unitytactical.com/link-system/
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 4:16:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carholio:
What's the release date for them?
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Streamlight told me November.
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 5:51:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tomac:


Streamlight told me November.
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By carholio:
What's the release date for them?
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Streamlight told me November.

Any chance they confirmed the Jack Cap working with Unity switches? I sent a email but nothing back yet.
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 6:08:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:
Any chance they confirmed the Jack Cap working with Unity switches? I sent a email but nothing back yet.
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Sorry, all I asked about was the release date.
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 6:21:59 PM EDT
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Interested. It's time I get a dedicated rifle light. I have a a tlr-1 on my main rifle now.
Link Posted: 10/20/2023 9:44:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tomac:


Streamlight told me November.
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By carholio:
What's the release date for them?
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Streamlight told me November.



Thank you.


Link Posted: 10/20/2023 10:19:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carholio:
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You're welcome!
Link Posted: 10/21/2023 12:33:30 AM EDT
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Umm Primary arms has them in stock right now….

Protac 2.0
Link Posted: 10/21/2023 1:35:47 AM EDT
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The 2.0 is a different animal. 2000 lumen for one. Different from the new HL-X PRO coming out.
Link Posted: 10/21/2023 2:16:09 AM EDT
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About time. I was shocked when the 2.0 was a downgrade in candela. This looks like it’s still pretty chunky but hopefully it’s a good budget option.
Link Posted: 10/21/2023 8:19:11 AM EDT
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Hopefully the new tail cap eliminated the flickering issue. The HL-X is a good light, but flickering when the rifle is fired is annoying and they all do it without an O ring.
Link Posted: 10/21/2023 9:25:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheKurnal:
The 2.0 is a different animal. 2000 lumen for one. Different from the new HL-X PRO coming out.
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The 2.0 is horrible and they should be embarrassed by it

HL-X PRO looks good
Link Posted: 10/21/2023 2:33:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:
Same stats as original HL-X.
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Original was 27,xxx candela, so almost doubled that.
I only used HL-Xs without the remote switch (too many remote switch problems), so if they've upped their game there this could be a very nice entry to the field. Even if the remote switches still have problems at least this gives you a backup tailcap switch ala SF DS00 and the CD rein.
Link Posted: 10/22/2023 9:20:20 PM EDT
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If it really takes a Crane switch, this could be a pretty good budget option. IIRC, the current HLX is only $120 or so at the 'zon.
Link Posted: 10/22/2023 9:31:18 PM EDT
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I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed?
Link Posted: 10/22/2023 9:48:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJL0325:
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i've upgrade my tape switch to a surefire ue using an arisaka tailcap adapter.  there's an hl-x version as well. https://arisakadefense.com/tailcap-adapter-streamlight-protac-railmount-hl-x/
Link Posted: 10/23/2023 11:01:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ed_Victory:
I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed?
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Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.

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Link Posted: 10/23/2023 1:23:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:

Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.

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Originally Posted By Fiyero:
Originally Posted By Ed_Victory:
I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed?

Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG


That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . .
Link Posted: 10/23/2023 1:25:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By keeperofthedew:


That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . .
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Yes, but all it is is a plug in style of electronic connection. It is mostly used on lasers, but doesn't mean it cant be used on flashlights.

Streamlight isn't going to adopt their competitors plug style, not to mention that Cloud Defense has shown us it is a limiting factor anyways.
Link Posted: 10/23/2023 1:34:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By keeperofthedew:
That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . .
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There's really no reason I'm aware of that it can't be used for flashlights. IIRC, Z-Bolt uses them. The reality is that the Surefire system kinda sucks in some ways, and the industry could use a new open standard based on USB-C. The UT Link system should have been it, but they kept it proprietary instead.
Link Posted: 10/23/2023 2:58:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By erwos:

There's really no reason I'm aware of that it can't be used for flashlights. IIRC, Z-Bolt uses them. The reality is that the Surefire system kinda sucks in some ways, and the industry could use a new open standard based on USB-C. The UT Link system should have been it, but they kept it proprietary instead.
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Originally Posted By keeperofthedew:
That makes me more confused. Usually I hear crane referred to with regard to laser switches . . .

There's really no reason I'm aware of that it can't be used for flashlights. IIRC, Z-Bolt uses them. The reality is that the Surefire system kinda sucks in some ways, and the industry could use a new open standard based on USB-C. The UT Link system should have been it, but they kept it proprietary instead.


As long as that's what they mean I don't have a problem with it, just was confused as to if that meant that same plug style or if there was a crane light spec that matched SF too. If not then that's probably better than SF d/t the aforementioned voltage issues with sf switches.
Link Posted: 10/23/2023 9:33:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:

Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:
Originally Posted By Ed_Victory:
I’ve been told the Streamlight switches are similar to Crane but not compatible. Has that changed?

Here’s the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I’ll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG


Excellent!

Please let us know how it goes.
Link Posted: 10/24/2023 12:12:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fiyero:

Here's the official answer from Streamlight when I asked about them being be compatible with the Unity Tactical switches. So I'll definitely be picking up a few to play with now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222364/IMG_3496_jpeg-3001406.JPG
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Holy shit. The unity switches cost more than the light. Are the stream lights really that bad?
Link Posted: 10/24/2023 4:07:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheOldRepublic:

Holy shit. The unity switches cost more than the light. Are the stream lights really that bad?
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No, but Unity stuff is really that expensive.
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 4:04:44 PM EDT
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I've preordered one from Amazon, will post first impressions here when it arrives.
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 6:56:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
I've preordered one from Amazon, will post first impressions here when it arrives.
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Nice. Hope it's all it looks to be. How much was it?

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Link Posted: 10/31/2023 7:11:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/31/2023 8:35:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
I've preordered one from Amazon, will post first impressions here when it arrives.
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Sweet you gave me the idea to do the same. $114 for the bare bones version then $70ish for Unity switch will make a legit sub $200 rifle light.
Link Posted: 10/31/2023 8:39:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carholio:
Nice. Hope it's all it looks to be. How much was it?
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$135 w/remote switch, it's an experiment I can easily return if I'm not happy with it:
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  • 1000 lumens, 50,000 candela with a beam of 447 meters and runs 1.25 hours with CR123A batteries or 1.75 hours with SL-B26 USB battery


Link Posted: 11/1/2023 12:16:01 PM EDT
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I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder.
Link Posted: 11/3/2023 10:11:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder.
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It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about.
Link Posted: 11/3/2023 12:56:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:

It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about.
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Originally Posted By Tomac:
I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder.

It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about.



Agree.  Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4.

I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options.

I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more.

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Link Posted: 11/3/2023 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:

It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about.
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-:
Originally Posted By Tomac:
I just found out it has an IP54 rating. I want more water resistance than a '4' on my WML's so I cancelled my preorder.

It looks like their remote switch is the problem. The old HLX was a 7 with the tail cap and reduced to 4 with their pressure switch. Makes me wonder about the water ingress of aftermarket higher end switches as well as that’s rarely talked about.

I’ve got an Axon SL Unity switch ordered for mine but not sure how much of a difference it’ll make.
Link Posted: 11/3/2023 7:19:51 PM EDT
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Weird dupe.
Link Posted: 11/4/2023 11:26:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By carholio:



Agree.  Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4.

I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options.

I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more.

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Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN.
Link Posted: 11/5/2023 12:30:55 AM EDT
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Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN.
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Originally Posted By carholio:



Agree.  Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4.

I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options.

I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more.

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Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN.



My error. I meant the streamlight rail mount,  not the surefire.  Too many S.... light makers. LOL


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Link Posted: 11/5/2023 1:30:22 PM EDT
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My error. I meant the streamlight rail mount,  not the surefire.  Too many S.... light makers. LOL


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Originally Posted By carholio:



Agree.  Even the rail mount surefires are rated at 7 but when you use the remote switch it goes down to 4.

I will need to check ipx ratings on othe remote switch options.

I'll probably buy 1 of these eventually to give it a try. The surefire turbo is more than twice the price and even the non turbo scouts are $100 more.

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Wow, didn’t expect that loss to apply to Surefire too. Guess I have a bit more appreciation for my REIN.



My error. I meant the streamlight rail mount,  not the surefire.  Too many S.... light makers. LOL


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I tried plugging the Axon switch in my RM2 on my Scorpion and it was a no-go. The Streamlight plug has a O-ring (which is a plus I never noticed) and is a tad longer. So unless the Jack Cap is vastly different I don’t see them being compatible. However I’ve had thousands of rounds through my Scorpion with RM2 and never had a problem.

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Link Posted: 11/25/2023 8:50:51 AM EDT
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Okay, curiosity got the better of me and I caved, back on preorder!
Link Posted: 11/25/2023 11:10:38 AM EDT
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Wonder if the caps will be backwards compatible. Have several protac2s that I'd upgrade.
Link Posted: 11/25/2023 11:33:14 AM EDT
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Wonder if the caps will be backwards compatible. Have several protac2s that I'd upgrade.
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Protac 1 and 2 are narrower than the HLX series and use a different size cap.
Link Posted: 11/25/2023 11:54:48 AM EDT
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Protac 1 and 2 are narrower than the HLX series and use a different size cap.
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Wonder if the caps will be backwards compatible. Have several protac2s that I'd upgrade.


Protac 1 and 2 are narrower than the HLX series and use a different size cap.

Thanks guess I need to bite the bullet and buy one
Link Posted: 11/25/2023 12:42:40 PM EDT
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Streamlight mentioned some great Cyber Mondays deals coming. Hoping this is involved.
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Streamlight mentioned some great Cyber Mondays deals coming. Hoping this is involved.
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Would those deals be via retailers? Thx!
Link Posted: 11/25/2023 4:25:41 PM EDT
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Would those deals be via retailers? Thx!
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Don't know. It was Streamlights Facebook page that announced it. If I see anything I'll post it here.

After I order one for myself of course.
Link Posted: 11/25/2023 11:32:12 PM EDT
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Don't know. It was Streamlights Facebook page that announced it. If I see anything I'll post it here.

After I order one for myself of course.
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Would those deals be via retailers? Thx!



Don't know. It was Streamlights Facebook page that announced it. If I see anything I'll post it here.

After I order one for myself of course.

I think it’s just some type giveaway celebrating their 50th anniversary unfortunately
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