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Link Posted: 4/26/2024 12:48:15 PM EDT
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I think this is actually an amazing combo.  I ran a 1-6 razor as a proof of concept on a 10.3 300blk and I thought it was awesome.  May do it again with an NX8....
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:08:51 PM EDT
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Careful. The front might fall off.

Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:21:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Primetime_1:


I think this is actually an amazing combo.  I ran a 1-6 razor as a proof of concept on a 10.3 300blk and I thought it was awesome.  May do it again with an NX8....
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Originally Posted By Primetime_1:


I think this is actually an amazing combo.  I ran a 1-6 razor as a proof of concept on a 10.3 300blk and I thought it was awesome.  May do it again with an NX8....


Thanks.  It feels really good as well.  Nice heads up with a light weight shorty....didn't think I'd like it as much, but it just works so well.



Originally Posted By 2Keylows:
Careful. The front might fall off.
https://i.imgur.com/jTso2Ot.jpg



Ouch.........

Thats a nice rifle there....what size BBs does it shoot?
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:58:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnnyUtah427:
Thats a nice rifle there....what size BBs does it shoot?
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4.5mm according the the Urgi thread.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 11:56:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2024 12:39:10 AM EDT
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New centurion taper bolt mated with the KAC mod2 barrel!
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 12:59:46 AM EDT
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Whats the deets on the barrel/rail combo? Gas length?

Do you have a surefire can?
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 3:36:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By slowkota1:


Whats the deets on the barrel/rail combo? Gas length?

Do you have a surefire can?
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It's a Geissele URG-I Near Clone upper - so the rail is a Geissele 13.5" SMR MK16, and the barrel is a Geissele 5.56MM 14.5" GOV profile, CHF, Chrome Lined, Mag Phos, ChromolyV, 1/7 Twist with mid-length gas.

I do not - it comes wiht the tuning fork at the end. My god it just takes moving the rifle around to make it sing.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 5:03:08 AM EDT
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Holddd up, I recognize that Steiner

Looks right at home, just like that 8.5” URX 4. I like your style.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:50:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stormhammer:


It's a Geissele URG-I Near Clone upper

I do not - it comes wiht the tuning fork at the end. My god it just takes moving the rifle around to make it sing.
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Gotcha.

Yeah, they ping... Even when the can is on.
I thought the B.E. Meyers 249f was bad lol
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:18:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slowkota1:


Gotcha.

Yeah, they ping... Even when the can is on.
I thought the B.E. Meyers 249f was bad lol
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Dude, no lie, I picked it up, and as I was moving it around the house and on the rifle I kept being like " jesus my tinnitus is bad or something bc I keep hearing this ringing "
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 1:35:12 AM EDT
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Seems unnecessary for a 1-4x.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:36:14 AM EDT
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Seems unnecessary for a 1-4x.
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??? i guess i could throw the EP-8 on there but i like the weight savings on the 1-4x
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 12:22:30 PM EDT
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Is that the P4xi? I'm considering replacing my PA Nova with one of these on an 11.5 so I can put the 1-6 back on the 16". Any thoughts?

I'm new to lpvo's, the Nova is my only one, but I've ran a short cqb course with it and will be doing more along with (if the stars align) a DMR course out to 500yds with it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 12:53:02 PM EDT
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Is that the P4xi? I'm considering replacing my PA Nova with one of these on an 11.5 so I can put the 1-6 back on the 16". Any thoughts?

I'm new to lpvo's, the Nova is my only one, but I've ran a short cqb course with it and will be doing more along with (if the stars align) a DMR course out to 500yds with it.
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yea, its a P4Xii like it a lot, and have a couple, i also like the Leupold Mk3 HD 1.5-4x (if you don't care about the fact you'll have a little more magnification at the lowest setting).  i've not used the PA Nova yet, so i cant give any insight on it.  i've done 600-ish with a 4x scope, you just have to be realistic with the limitations of a lower magnification scope.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:11:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CJ47:

Is that the P4xi? I'm considering replacing my PA Nova with one of these on an 11.5 so I can put the 1-6 back on the 16". Any thoughts?

I'm new to lpvo's, the Nova is my only one, but I've ran a short cqb course with it and will be doing more along with (if the stars align) a DMR course out to 500yds with it.
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I have a couple P4xi’s, a T5xi and a Nova. The only advantages of the Nova are price and higher top end magnification. The Steiners have significantly better glass. That said, I wouldn’t pay more than ~$550ish for a P4xi, which you can find occasionally. At $700+ there are better options.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 5:50:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 5L33P3R:


yea, its a P4Xii like it a lot, and have a couple, i also like the Leupold Mk3 HD 1.5-4x (if you don't care about the fact you'll have a little more magnification at the lowest setting).  i've not used the PA Nova yet, so i cant give any insight on it.  i've done 600-ish with a 4x scope, you just have to be realistic with the limitations of a lower magnification scope.
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Originally Posted By Luny421:

I have a couple P4xi’s, a T5xi and a Nova. The only advantages of the Nova are price and higher top end magnification. The Steiners have significantly better glass. That said, I wouldn’t pay more than ~$550ish for a P4xi, which you can find occasionally. At $700+ there are better options.
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Thanks guys. I don't plan on doing more than 500 with my 11.5", so 4x is all I need. And i can get the P4xi for under $600, so it seemed like a good deal lol might have to jump on it in a few months.

Anyone able to compare the steiner to the Razor Gen II?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:51:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CJ47:


Thanks guys. I don't plan on doing more than 500 with my 11.5", so 4x is all I need. And i can get the P4xi for under $600, so it seemed like a good deal lol might have to jump on it in a few months.

Anyone able to compare the steiner to the Razor Gen II?
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I sold my razor and got a p4xi and leupold mk3hd 1.5-4x… 4x is perfect in my opinion for 80% of what a 10.3-14.5” gun will need.  If you need more than 4x, take the weight hit and go to something with an upper mag range of 8x or 10x… I’ve been a fan of the EP-8 1-8x by Arken…
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:20:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/30/2024 1:26:41 AM EDT
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Just finally found a barrel for this bad boy. Soon I'll be joining the Transsonic Midrange Shooters Club
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 2:33:26 PM EDT
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Goddammit, I just love these!
And they look like they get some frequent lovin too.
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 1:05:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:26:41 PM EDT
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14.5” 6ARC. Easy money out to 950 yards with factory 108’s.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 11:27:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By McCarron:
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14.5” 6ARC. Easy money out to 950 yards with factory 108’s.
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Any chance you could share a bit of info on velocity, drop and wind drift? I’m considering building something similar but the data I’m getting/finding is related to longer barrel length and I’m interested in real world info on th <16” barrel info.  Nice looking rig!

-T
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 11:30:38 PM EDT
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14.5” p/w MOD2 with the new centurion tapered bolt.  Probably the softest shooting rig I’ve ever owned (the last 14.5” MOD2 w/ QDC MAMS was soft, but there is ZERO muzzle movement with this build)
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Originally Posted By 5L33P3R:


Any chance you could share a bit of info on velocity, drop and wind drift? I’m considering building something similar but the data I’m getting/finding is related to longer barrel length and I’m interested in real world info on th <16” barrel info.  Nice looking rig!

-T
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Originally Posted By McCarron:
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14.5” 6ARC. Easy money out to 950 yards with factory 108’s.


Any chance you could share a bit of info on velocity, drop and wind drift? I’m considering building something similar but the data I’m getting/finding is related to longer barrel length and I’m interested in real world info on th <16” barrel info.  Nice looking rig!

-T


My 14.5” 6ARC (a few posts up) is slinging factory 103gr ELD-X at 2460fps @ 80* ambient.

At sea level, it goes transsonic a bit past 850y.  Zeroed at 100y, drop at 800y is 8.4 mil.  With a 10mph full value crosswind, I'm seeing 2 mils of wind drift at that distance.

For comparison purposes, that’s 1/2 mil less drop and a full mil less wind drift at 800y than one of my 14.5” 5.56 guns slinging Magtech Mk262 (77gr SMK) at 2600fps.
Link Posted: Yesterday 1:44:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WUPHF:


My 14.5” 6ARC (a few posts up) is slinging factory 103gr ELD-X at 2460fps @ 80* ambient.

Zeroed at 100 at sea level, it goes transsonic a bit past 850y.  Drop at 800y is 8.4 mil.  With a 10mph full value crosswind, I'm seeing 2 mils of wind drift.

For comparison purposes, that’s 1/2 mil less drop and a full mil less wind drift at 800y than one of my 14.5” 5.56 guns slinging Magtech Mk262 (77gr SMK) at 2600fps.
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Outstanding!!! Thanks. I’m battling the option of getting a set of bino NV or building a 6ARC… this is a tough call based on those numbers
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The 14.5” Proof CF 6ARC barrel is getting 2450fps at 1280DA.
Factory 108’s were 11 Mils to IPSC steel at 930 yards, 12 Mils to 988 yards. Past 988 the wind kicked my butt…
17.5 Mils to hit the same size target at 1273 yards just for fun. (used a Mk5 3-18 T3 that day)

For what it’s worth my 18” Proof SS barrel is getting 2554fps at the same DA. 10 Mils to 940 yards.
Both barrels have under 200 rounds.

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