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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: Be still my heart... Wow that's gorgeous. I'm afraid to ask how long it took to track down all those Vero Beach parts View Quote Originally Posted By towerofpower94: While I ended up with a KAC rail from the last batch, I think my Mod 0 and Mod H will receive more range time. The PRI tube is just so iconic View Quote My previous posts has both my Mod 0 and Mod 1 rifles, to everyone reading this new page in the thread, please go back a page to see photos and information on each of these amazing clone builds! |
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's both of my builds, which one do you guys prefer? I love both of these rifles, they turned out perfect and they look amazing together! It's difficult to say if I like one better than the other. What do you guys think about these clone builds? https://i.imgur.com/S5wj3EJ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pFimCuK.jpeg View Quote Mod O for me, but they’re both incredible. Every time you post a build (mk12, mk18, bolt guns, etc) I always think to myself, “How the fuck does he find these parts?!” |
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's both of my builds, which one do you guys prefer? I love both of these rifles, they turned out perfect and they look amazing together! It's difficult to say if I like one better than the other. What do you guys think about these clone builds? https://i.imgur.com/S5wj3EJ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pFimCuK.jpeg View Quote While I usually jump at builds that correctly capture all the minute details of a late era mod 0, that mod 1 has a whole lot of cool/unique/obscure parts going on. Both are fantastic but the mod 1 takes the cake for me in this scenario. Nice job! |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: Mod O for me, but they're both incredible. Every time you post a build (mk12, mk18, bolt guns, etc) I always think to myself, "How the fuck does he find these parts?!" View Quote Originally Posted By teamjawbox: While I usually jump at builds that correctly capture all the minute details of a late era mod 0, that mod 1 has a whole lot of cool/unique/obscure parts going on. Both are fantastic but the mod 1 takes the cake for me in this scenario. Nice job! View Quote I wouldn't have been able to complete either one of these clone builds without the help from many members of this thread! From parts to information and photos of original rifles, you guys are the best! |
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's both of my builds, which one do you guys prefer? I love both of these rifles, they turned out perfect and they look amazing together! It's difficult to say if I like one better than the other. What do you guys think about these clone builds? https://i.imgur.com/S5wj3EJ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pFimCuK.jpeg View Quote These builds are both fantastic! The gen 1 ergo grips are an awesome touch...they're nearly impossible to find. I have been wondering about the variations on the old Harris bipods. Does your 2006 example have flat or rounded rivets on the rear? Is it marked "Harris/USA" or just "Harris"? And what do the stamped indentations on the locks for the notched legs look like? Just noticed that variation on some of my Harris BRM-S bipods. New on the left (deeper indentations with short line on top), old on the right (shallower stamped lines). My other older Harris bipods are also like the one on the right. Really dig the lower on your mod 1. OG magwell reweld? Some of the pics of your Mod 1 upper in progress actually got me into the Mk12 clone game. Amazing to see it completed. On another note, if anyone is looking for an Intl Mil Co Hydramatic lower for a build I may have a spare that I'll be posting on the EE. Some cool old SPR-era wingless A.R.M.S. stuff, too. |
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Originally Posted By kefir1775: Its more than just getting them on. Even after you do, they don't stay well (hence alot of pics of duct tape). The other issue is with mashing them on, the small rim that is on the body can get misshapen or stretched and is no longer able to allow the cap itself to snap into place. I called Leupold direct and they sent me out a pair of the original covers if you don't have them. They fit like a glove. View Quote Are Leupold branded scope caps clone correct? Were scope caps issued with the MK4 scope back in the early 2000's? Or are the Butler Creek the correct scope cap for cloning purposes? |
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's my Mk12 Mod 0, it's also built to crazy perfect specs like my Mod 1! This rifle has an original military used take-off barrel and it has the correct Mod 0 folding sight gas block (FSGB)! I've seen multiple crazy rare SPR FSGB's over the years, but this Mod 0 FSGB is the only legit actual Mod 0 FSGB I've ever seen. The Mod 0 FSGB has 4 set screws holding it to the original barrel, not the 2 long bolts like some of the older FSGB's had. The Mod 0 handguard is an original surplus Mod 0 piece, it was made around 2003 and has the correct size/location vent holes. The original Mod 0 handguard is extremely rare! You guys should recognize the original Leupold TS-30A2 scope, Arms 22M no lever stop rings and the Arms Tactical Ring Cap (TRC). The Arms #38 Swan Sleeve is the PEQ-2 type, which is correct for the military Mod 0's as well. https://i.imgur.com/Y7u8vCe.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/yiSWgoG.jpeg I also have a vintage Docter Optic red dot sight in a protective winged mount. The previous photos are the Mod 0 without the red dot, the 2 photos below have the red dot attached. Which way do you guys like better? https://i.imgur.com/zEi4y33.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/5iMZkXE.jpeg The GM Hydramatic receiver was cistom made for me, and the serial number on it actually matches the original government issued Mk12 Mod 0 serial number that's on my original Mod 0 case! The serial number range on the original case actually matches up to the GM Hydramatic receivers (not Colt or H&R or any other company), so I decided to do a reproduction GM Hydramatic receiver for my build using this serial number! This is probably a one-off pair, I've never seen another receiver with a serial number matching an original Mk12 case! https://i.imgur.com/wmsTcB9.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/NyjH4wR.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/QnjF1ao.jpeg I actually have this Mod 0 available for sale (minus the silencer), a friend is currently thinking about buying it from me. It's expensive, but it's probably the best clone Mk12 Mod 0 ever assembled! It's truly a labor of love, a ton of time/money/effort when into this build, and I hope all that effort can be seen in these photos! View Quote |
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anyone know what kind of markings were printed on the outside of a mk12 mod 1 deployment case? Im trying to make one but im limited on the details. I was going to use a stencil "MK12 MOD 1" or something like that. Any other ideas? Thanks!
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Not the best screencap from a YouTube video my buddy just put up, but I used my Mod H in a night match this past Saturday.
It was overkill for the 5-50yd rifle targets, but I wanted to get more rounds on the gun and also see how the Somogear NGAL clone will hold up over more abuse. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Svensson: Possibly, depending on what version you have. What broke on yours -- the lever? If you still have the parts it should be fixable... First version used a slotted screw. This would be around 1999-2000, mostly seen on M24s. Don't have one of those for reference. Later changed to a hex screw. Not sure exactly when, likely by early-2000s. This one is a 2006. https://i.imgur.com/YbMUIz0h.jpg Then changed to a tamper-resistant hex screw in 2007 (left). Right lever is from an EABCO S-Lever. https://i.imgur.com/em9Zrmch.jpg Old style/gen 1 (below) is a two-piece design -- separate lever and spacer. New design/gen 2 (post-2009) is a one-piece arrangement with a bent lever embossed with "KMW". Don't have one of those either but it should be the stock image on the KMW site. https://i.imgur.com/cmNJx9Dh.jpg IMO a gen 1 pod loc is worth fixing. Replacement levers are available. View Quote I'd say it's a gen 1, but I don't see what makes it one. Not sure where to get just the lever? |
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Originally Posted By Svensson: Here's my ~2004-2005 case. Earlier cases tend to have more hand-done markings. https://i.imgur.com/5zJPpIPh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xNnT5yVh.jpg Later USMC cases would generally have inventory stickers for the suppressor and the rifle. Sometimes serial numbers for the suppressor, lower, and scope would be etched/scratched into the plastic. Serial number for the lower was also occasionally marked on the case with a paint pen. If anyone has a line on a later case with the barcode inventory stickers I am still looking for one to complete my USMC Mod 1 clone. View Quote Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's my original surplus Mk12 Mod 1 case: I think I am going to use a military font type stencil for the "MK12". Thanks. https://i.imgur.com/prCM4G8.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/VKTx1Eq.jpeg View Quote Right on. Thanks for the help. I might try to recreate this sticker with the inventory check list. Much appreciated! |
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just posted a couple ARMS sights in the EE
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Where any lights used on the MK12 mod 0 or mod1? I can't seem to find any pictures with lights. I was thinking surefire M951. Anyone running a light on their setup?
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra: https://i.imgur.com/MO86x3y.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/JB99KCI.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/36HX5z8.jpeg I'd say it's a gen 1, but I don't see what makes it one. Not sure where to get just the lever? View Quote Looks like it to me. I have a spare lever that I can send you. Send me a pm. |
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Originally Posted By moon_pigeon: Where any lights used on the MK12 mod 0 or mod1? I can't seem to find any pictures with lights. I was thinking surefire M951. Anyone running a light on their setup? View Quote Here's an SU233 from CD pic drop on a mod 1. Attached File And you can see a Surefire on Shawn Ryan's mod 1 a couple pages back. Some other examples posted in the thread. Don't have page #'s handy. |
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Side note...I'm in the process of making my Mod 1 clone a little more clone correct - starting with the lower.
Have had an A2 lower on there forever, but I'm thinking of buying an H&R M16A1 (from PSA) stripped lower and getting a surplus M16A1 stock to go with it. Obviously, the gray finish M16A1 lower is aesthetically more accurate to the 1960s, but I can't remember - were those refinished in black later on when paired with the Mk12? Or did they stay the original gray finish? Or both? |
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Anyone have a spare long collar they want to get rid of?
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Side note...I'm in the process of making my Mod 1 clone a little more clone correct - starting with the lower. Have had an A2 lower on there forever, but I'm thinking of buying an H&R M16A1 (from PSA) stripped lower and getting a surplus M16A1 stock to go with it. Obviously, the gray finish M16A1 lower is aesthetically more accurate to the 1960s, but I can't remember - were those refinished in black later on when paired with the Mk12? Or did they stay the original gray finish? Or both? View Quote Some would be gray if the anodizing was still in good shape when it was put into storage. Others were refinished with some sort of flat epoxy paint at the arsenal level. H&Rs and GMs were generally darker gray, almost black. But everything varies. Even surface prep. I've seen some that were very rough and others with a super smooth finish. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Side note...I'm in the process of making my Mod 1 clone a little more clone correct - starting with the lower. Have had an A2 lower on there forever, but I'm thinking of buying an H&R M16A1 (from PSA) stripped lower and getting a surplus M16A1 stock to go with it. Obviously, the gray finish M16A1 lower is aesthetically more accurate to the 1960s, but I can't remember - were those refinished in black later on when paired with the Mk12? Or did they stay the original gray finish? Or both? View Quote Doesn't matter what color the lower is since you're going to paint it anyway. You ARE painting it, right? |
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Originally Posted By ArpaioFan: https://www.bauer-precision.com/allen-engineering-mk12-mod-1-spr-collar/ In stock as of this post. No idea about if bauer-precision is legit though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
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Originally Posted By Svensson: Some would be gray if the anodizing was still in good shape when it was put into storage. Others were refinished with some sort of flat epoxy paint at the arsenal level. H&Rs and GMs were generally darker gray, almost black. But everything varies. Even surface prep. I've seen some that were very rough and others with a super smooth finish. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By metalsaber: They are legit View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By ArpaioFan: Originally Posted By LongTrang: Anyone have a spare long collar they want to get rid of? https://www.bauer-precision.com/allen-engineering-mk12-mod-1-spr-collar/ In stock as of this post. No idea about if bauer-precision is legit though. Sweet. I will check them out. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: H is for Heavy Handled Holland https://i.postimg.cc/pTJ5KyCd/IMG-20240218-125659318-HDR-2.jpg View Quote Needs to dry out so I can get mine out. |
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's my Mk12 Mod 0, it's also built to crazy perfect specs like my Mod 1! This rifle has an original military used take-off barrel and it has the correct Mod 0 folding sight gas block (FSGB)! I've seen multiple crazy rare SPR FSGB's over the years, but this Mod 0 FSGB is the only legit actual Mod 0 FSGB I've ever seen. The Mod 0 FSGB has 4 set screws holding it to the original barrel, not the 2 long bolts like some of the older FSGB's had. The Mod 0 handguard is an original surplus Mod 0 piece, it was made around 2003 and has the correct size/location vent holes. The original Mod 0 handguard is extremely rare! You guys should recognize the original Leupold TS-30A2 scope, Arms 22M no lever stop rings and the Arms Tactical Ring Cap (TRC). The Arms #38 Swan Sleeve is the PEQ-2 type, which is correct for the military Mod 0's as well. https://i.imgur.com/Y7u8vCe.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/yiSWgoG.jpeg I also have a vintage Docter Optic red dot sight in a protective winged mount. The previous photos are the Mod 0 without the red dot, the 2 photos below have the red dot attached. Which way do you guys like better? https://i.imgur.com/zEi4y33.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/5iMZkXE.jpeg The GM Hydramatic receiver was cistom made for me, and the serial number on it actually matches the original government issued Mk12 Mod 0 serial number that's on my original Mod 0 case! The serial number range on the original case actually matches up to the GM Hydramatic receivers (not Colt or H&R or any other company), so I decided to do a reproduction GM Hydramatic receiver for my build using this serial number! This is probably a one-off pair, I've never seen another receiver with a serial number matching an original Mk12 case! https://i.imgur.com/wmsTcB9.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/NyjH4wR.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/QnjF1ao.jpeg I actually have this Mod 0 available for sale (minus the silencer), a friend is currently thinking about buying it from me. It's expensive, but it's probably the best clone Mk12 Mod 0 ever assembled! It's truly a labor of love, a ton of time/money/effort when into this build, and I hope all that effort can be seen in these photos! View Quote Do you know who did the anodizing on the lower after it was made? Thanks. @USMCSGT0331 |
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331: Here's my Mk12 Mod 0, it's also built to crazy perfect specs like my Mod 1! This rifle has an original military used take-off barrel and it has the correct Mod 0 folding sight gas block (FSGB)! I've seen multiple crazy rare SPR FSGB's over the years, but this Mod 0 FSGB is the only legit actual Mod 0 FSGB I've ever seen. The Mod 0 FSGB has 4 set screws holding it to the original barrel, not the 2 long bolts like some of the older FSGB's had. The Mod 0 handguard is an original surplus Mod 0 piece, it was made around 2003 and has the correct size/location vent holes. The original Mod 0 handguard is extremely rare! You guys should recognize the original Leupold TS-30A2 scope, Arms 22M no lever stop rings and the Arms Tactical Ring Cap (TRC). The Arms #38 Swan Sleeve is the PEQ-2 type, which is correct for the military Mod 0's as well. https://i.imgur.com/Y7u8vCe.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/yiSWgoG.jpeg I also have a vintage Docter Optic red dot sight in a protective winged mount. The previous photos are the Mod 0 without the red dot, the 2 photos below have the red dot attached. Which way do you guys like better? https://i.imgur.com/zEi4y33.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/5iMZkXE.jpeg The GM Hydramatic receiver was cistom made for me, and the serial number on it actually matches the original government issued Mk12 Mod 0 serial number that's on my original Mod 0 case! The serial number range on the original case actually matches up to the GM Hydramatic receivers (not Colt or H&R or any other company), so I decided to do a reproduction GM Hydramatic receiver for my build using this serial number! This is probably a one-off pair, I've never seen another receiver with a serial number matching an original Mk12 case! https://i.imgur.com/wmsTcB9.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/NyjH4wR.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/QnjF1ao.jpeg I actually have this Mod 0 available for sale (minus the silencer), a friend is currently thinking about buying it from me. It's expensive, but it's probably the best clone Mk12 Mod 0 ever assembled! It's truly a labor of love, a ton of time/money/effort when into this build, and I hope all that effort can be seen in these photos! View Quote Definitely a beauty. The correct FSGB’s for a late mod 0 are definitely hard to find. That part eluded me the longest - though a period/spec correct CH was right there with it for me. The correct 3-9 TS30A2 is something I’ve missed out on a few times. They’ve been available occasionally but not at a cost I was willing to eat. Same with an original TS30. Would love to have one of each (one for my late mod 0 and one for my mod 1), but the days of being able to get either at sub-$2000 are likely gone. I applaud your work as always. Every build you’ve posted has been nothing short of superb and never ceases to amaze! Bravo good sir! |
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272939/20230420_180338086_iOS_jpg-2794221.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272939/20230420_180350283_iOS_jpg-2794222.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272939/20230420_180357352_iOS_jpg-2794223.JPG View Quote Who makes the dope card attached to the side of the mount in the middle picture? ETA: Or is for an electronic device? |
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Just got my ARMS # 22s, anyone have a TRC/TRR for sale?
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Finally took the plunge into getting an AEM 5. Managed to find a Sparks NV AEM5 in stock at adco. Wish me luck, now off to file paperwork and play the waiting game. I’m stoked this will be my first suppressor purchase
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Originally Posted By HotLead: Just got my ARMS # 22s, anyone have a TRC/TRR for sale? View Quote I'm on backorder for some going on about two weeks so we shall see as these are now the new unobtanium. I ordered an #32 ARMS Harris mount and it shipped 4 days later. Mounts Plus it's a gamble........... |
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Originally Posted By Fives: Finally took the plunge into getting an AEM 5. Managed to find a Sparks NV AEM5 in stock at adco. Wish me luck, now off to file paperwork and play the waiting game. I'm stoked this will be my first suppressor purchase View Quote The AEM5 was my first suppressor too - you'll love it. |
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: I'm on backorder for some going on about two weeks so we shall see as these are now the new unobtanium. I ordered an #32 ARMS Harris mount and it shipped 4 days later. Mounts Plus it's a gamble........... View Quote Wild, mine has been on backorder for 6ish months with MPS. |
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Originally Posted By Fives: Finally took the plunge into getting an AEM 5. Managed to find a Sparks NV AEM5 in stock at adco. Wish me luck, now off to file paperwork and play the waiting game. I’m stoked this will be my first suppressor purchase View Quote Hopefully you get lucky and get approved in less than a month like my nephew just did...20 days for a F4! |
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Originally Posted By BOONEA: https://i.imgur.com/mla5vQW.jpg View Quote It goes here, ya Jabrone! @Bonnea |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By BOONEA: https://i.imgur.com/mla5vQW.jpg It goes here, ya Jabrone! @Bonnea Shits legit tho....................... |
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Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Question on turrets for this scope and rifle which is most appropriate? Scope is Leupold MK4 3-9x36 Mildot w/ M3 turrets model# 57055 Manufactured 2004...... Came with this one: https://i.imgur.com/93mZjKn.jpg Called Leupold and got this one: https://i.imgur.com/sdU5KgR.jpg This the turret cap on my MK4 LR/T 3.5-10x40 Illum TMR w/ M2 turrets model# 67940 aka: M110 FDE MK4 Manufactured in 2006 https://i.imgur.com/TV7i78t.jpg This is what I was after but it may be incorrect for my model MK4?? https://i.imgur.com/OjKuDej.jpg View Quote .223 62gr is what I recall seeing on the old 3-9’s. Though there’s been a ton of different ones spotted especially on the 3.5-10’s. Out of the two you showed I’d go with 5.56 77gr. ETA: pic of issued 3-9 M3 from 2004 era SH pic dump Attached File |
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