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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:31:35 AM EDT
Besides the obvious KAC and Troy, what are some decent BUIS?
I love KAC but availability limits their appeal and Troy, well, is Troy. |
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I've been impressed with my scalarworks sets.
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I really like the Magpul Pro (metal) BUIS.
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Troy has always been my go to due to availability but I have to admit, I have seen magpul polymer MBUS take an absolute beating. Their ability to withstand abuse has surprised me on multiple occasions
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Troy and Magpul are considered the standard. Pretty sure they Troy makes WC and Larues. You also have the option of Midwest Industries, Daniel Defense and PRI.
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Magpul pro for folding, DD for fixed
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Magpul Pro's (steel).
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If you're an euro ERATAC would be the go to
Eurooptic link ERATAC They make them with M4 or HK style frontsight and also do offsets. I've got a rear sight on my rifle, pretty happy with it |
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Originally Posted By swerdeofwar: If you're an euro ERATAC would be the go to https://images.eurooptic.com/images/products/era-tac/9/era-tac-t0541-0355.jpg?w=1100 Eurooptic link ERATAC They make them with M4 or HK style frontsight and also do offsets. I've got a rear sight on my rifle, pretty happy with it View Quote These look nice…… |
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Midwest Industries combat folding sights are solid. Low profile, aluminum base, steel folding bits.
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When shooting with non-locking irons such as magpul pro's or kac's I've "unlocked" them many of times. MBUS plastics not as much due to being spring loaded. Troys not at all.
Then again locking sights are permanently damaged if they take a serious impact. If you have a red dot DD 1.5's are the only answer. With all this being said I'd like to try the new magpul polymers. |
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I have a set from Spikes on one of my AR's that are not to bad. Here is the rear and front.
Most of my AR's wear Magpul's but I thought I would give these a try. https://www.spikestactical.com/collections/sights/spikes-tactical-gen-ii-micro-rear-sight/ https://www.spikestactical.com/collections/sights/spikes-tactical-gen-ii-micro-front-sight/ |
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I have Magpul Pros, KAC, and MATECH. The Pros are nice and I really like how small they are. The KACs look and function great and are paired with MATECHs on the rear as they are on semi clone rifles. I have a MI rear, but I haven't used it yet as I don't have a matching front sight for it. It's super simple, slim, has no second apertures and just flips up. I bought it on sale as it was missing its screw. MI had them for a few bucks so I paid about half the regular price for it.
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Originally Posted By Muad: I really like the Magpul Pro (metal) BUIS. View Quote This was posted in the MK18 mega-thread: "Maybe that’s where we’re getting our Mk.18s from. All of ours appear to be Colt select fire M4 Carbine lower turned into 10.3” guns with DD RIS IIs, Aimpoint M5s on KDG push-button mounts, Magpul MBUS-Pro sights, MAWL-DAs and Surefire Scouts. State is letting us have the nice toys here." |
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I really like mbus pros, but my MI combat sights seem solid too. I dont know that either is "the best", but I've had no complaints. Honestly, if it's a back up sight, even the plastic magpul ones would be fine. Chances are they'll never get used. I just prefer something lower profile.
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I'm partial to the mbus pros (steel).
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Originally Posted By Muad: I really like the Magpul Pro (metal) BUIS. View Quote I’m going to sell mine because I don’t like how the sight picture looks with the thicker front ears. I wanted to like them, but I’ll be looking to replace them with Troy sights. It sucks, as I really like the front sight post on the Magpuls. ETA: Those Ultradyne’s look interesting. However, I have Troys on all my other rifles, so I’m just gonna stick with them. I’m just not the type to constantly try out new products. Lol. |
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Change is the only constant. - Heractilus
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Ooops…double post
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Change is the only constant. - Heractilus
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Anyone know a good fixed front sight post? Got an MRP years ago only to realize I enjoy shooting with irons and a carry handle anymore. I'd love to replace my mbuis set and have a carry handle from an old build
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I have a couple of the DD 1.5 rear sights. And a bunch of A.R.M.S. 40 somethings. They all work. I don't know what qualifies as premium these days.
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I've had the gamut. Previous ran fixed DD, MBUS Pro, MBUS Pro LR, MBUS2, and ARMS #40 (old school I know). Currently have Troy, KAC M4 front with 600m rear, and MBUS 3. The only reason I own the KAC set and the Troys are clones; the MBUS 3 does everything they do, are proven to be durable, and really reasonably priced. Magpul really fixed the aesthetics on the MBUS 3 compared to the 2s.
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BuIS are obselete.
That said, if I had to put them on a rifle, I'm going with Magpul polymer MBUS. They will have been proven more durable and less prone to permanent drop damage than all metal BUIS. Fight me. |
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Samson is a good choice
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Originally Posted By Creature: BuIS are obselete. That said, if I had to put them on a rifle, I'm going with Magpul polymer MBUS. They will have been proven more durable and less prone to permanent drop damage than all metal BUIS. Fight me. View Quote The drop tests the polymer sights won were less about material and more that they did not lock into deployed position; they were able to give/fold when knocked while the others fought their locking mechanism And I do not want to fight |
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Originally Posted By DefenderAO: The drop tests the polymer sights won were less about material and more that they did not lock into deployed position; they were able to give/fold when knocked while the others fought their locking mechanism And I do not want to fight View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DefenderAO: Originally Posted By Creature: BuIS are obselete. That said, if I had to put them on a rifle, I'm going with Magpul polymer MBUS. They will have been proven more durable and less prone to permanent drop damage than all metal BUIS. Fight me. The drop tests the polymer sights won were less about material and more that they did not lock into deployed position; they were able to give/fold when knocked while the others fought their locking mechanism And I do not want to fight |
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I used to put Troys on everything, until it got to the point I had to admit they were chonky enough to be interfering with other stuff, so I sold them all and switched to lower profile MBUS Pros.
Then after a while I got to the point where I had to admit that all I did with them was buy them, zero them, fold them, and never touch them again. I'm entirely happy with the build quality of both the Troys and MBUS Pros, but they've pretty much reached a point of being an unnecessary ~170$/per gun cost and weight adder, so I believe I currently have more than enough BUIS to last me the rest of my life. I guess if I was carrying the gun into combat or something, I would want them literally as a backup to have something in case the optic was physically destroyed, but for any other purpose, I'm fine with changing the optic battery once a year and calling it good. |
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Originally Posted By DVCNick: I used to put Troys on everything, until it got to the point I had to admit they were chonky enough to be interfering with other stuff, so I sold them all and switched to lower profile MBUS Pros. Then after a while I got to the point where I had to admit that all I did with them was buy them, zero them, fold them, and never touch them again. I'm entirely happy with the build quality of both the Troys and MBUS Pros, but they've pretty much reached a point of being an unnecessary ~170$/per gun cost and weight adder, so I believe I currently have more than enough BUIS to last me the rest of my life. I guess if I was carrying the gun into combat or something, I would want them literally as a backup to have something in case the optic was physically destroyed, but for any other purpose, I'm fine with changing the optic battery once a year and calling it good. View Quote |
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Never confuse motion with progress; never confuse a college degree with intelligence.
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Originally Posted By Creature: The polymer material more than likely made a substantial difference. Unlike the other metal BUIS in that test, a second drop test was performed on the same polymer BUIS...with a POI shift of less than 1 MOA. I'd say that Magpul got that one right. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Creature: Originally Posted By DefenderAO: Originally Posted By Creature: BuIS are obselete. That said, if I had to put them on a rifle, I'm going with Magpul polymer MBUS. They will have been proven more durable and less prone to permanent drop damage than all metal BUIS. Fight me. The drop tests the polymer sights won were less about material and more that they did not lock into deployed position; they were able to give/fold when knocked while the others fought their locking mechanism And I do not want to fight No question the MBUS Pro, with its give, yield the same result. This one wasn't a polymer thing. It was a lockup thing. The other brands had zero give because of their locking mechanisms. Frankly the Magpul polymers not sitting flush (rear) with the rail looks bad. There are much better options for BUIS than those... |
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety
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I normally use a set of the Magpul Pro MBUS sights.
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If you don't need folding, a chopped carry handle is still #1 IMO.
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If a 147 grn 9mm at 1000 FPS is the hammer of Thor then a 165 grn. 40 at 1200 fps must a lightening bolt from Zeus!
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Originally Posted By kx250ryder: Scalarworks Peak/01 fixed front sight is my favorite. Tool-less adjustment and a narrow front post to deal with the shorter sight radius of a <20" rifle. https://scalarworks.com/wp-content/uploads/scalarworks-peak-fixed-black-hero.jpg https://scalarworks.com/shop/iron-sights/peak-01/ View Quote Those look slick. And Molon approved, so sounds like I need a set |
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Originally Posted By Ghostface: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4827/IMG_0975_jpeg-3185501.JPG View Quote I'm still pretty fond of the ARMS BUIS. |
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