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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:57:21 PM EDT
Do any of you know an MLOK handguard that does not come with a proprietary barrel nut, but is mounted on the standard barrel nut?
The reason for this is: I already have one of these handguards, a Fortis Rev II. However, this is not available in Austria (or in Europe at all). Please don't ask me how I got mine - you can guess. But now a friend also wants to have one of these handguards. Since I don't want to expect him to get into trouble with customs, I'm looking for a legal option. Fortis and all of its officially listed dealers ship only to the U.S. This manufacturer is therefore not an option. Maybe there is another manufacturer whose dealer network also extends to Europe? |
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Not sure if they ship overseas but here's some that use regular barrel nuts.
https://midwestindustriesinc.com/two-piece-ar15-free-float-m-lok-handguard/ https://midwestindustriesinc.com/mi-gen2-two-piece-free-float-handguard/ https://midwestindustriesinc.com/mi-gen2-two-piece-drop-in-handguard/ https://worldoftroy.com/product-category/battlerails/ And here's a thread that discusses handguards that install with a standard mil-spec barrel nut. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Rails-that-use-a-standard-barrel-nut-/4-784103/ Good luck on the search! |
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https://centurionarms.com/rail-systems/new-c4-mlok-rails/
Damn solid kit. I couldn't tell you specifics regarding availability in Austria. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: https://centurionarms.com/rail-systems/new-c4-mlok-rails/ Damn solid kit. I couldn't tell you specifics regarding availability in Austria. View Quote I can here to post Centurion. But I don’t know if they will international. |
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I think there is an Israeli option as well, can’t think of the name though.
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Thanks for the input guys,
The more of these handguards I know by name, the greater the chance of finding a local seller who can purchase them. The ones from Midwest are not suitable because they either have a front sight cutout or are not MLOK but quad-picatinny. But Troy's was a good clue! The one from centurion arms looks very good, but is also very expensive. You can assume that the price will almost double by the time I have an an item shipped from the U.S. in my hands (shipping, taxes, customs, fees, local seller if necessary). It's always been like this until now. But okay, that's just the price if I want the cool stuff from the USA. It doesn't look like Centurion Arms itself ships internationally. At least not to Austria or Germany. When I want to place an order on their website, I am asked to enter a different address. I will also continue to search for the handguard from Israel, maybe I can find out which model it is. Further suggestions are welcome. |
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Vltor CASV mounts with standard delta ring.
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Shop Brownells Europe, possibly you'll find something close.
I see that they have the Centurion C4 rails available (picitinny), possibly they can order what you seek? |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless R.I.P. to the EE |
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Originally Posted By martin_q: Do any of you know an MLOK handguard that does not come with a proprietary barrel nut, but is mounted on the standard barrel nut? The reason for this is: I already have one of these handguards, a Fortis Rev II. However, this is not available in Austria (or in Europe at all). Please don't ask me how I got mine - you can guess. But now a friend also wants to have one of these handguards. Since I don't want to expect him to get into trouble with customs, I'm looking for a legal option. Fortis and all of its officially listed dealers ship only to the U.S. This manufacturer is therefore not an option. Maybe there is another manufacturer whose dealer network also extends to Europe? View Quote Ok, I won’t ask, I’ll demand. Tell me how you got the Fortis Handguard. |
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The Troy rail I had worked just fine.
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Israeli- look for IWI and Fab defense not sure on dealers.
Asian- if you can’t get a good course for us stuff UTG has stepped up their game a lot. Some of the foreign made stuff still pretty nice these days. |
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Originally Posted By funnelcake: ^this - probably your best bet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By funnelcake: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Shop Brownells Europe, possibly you'll find something close. ^this - probably your best bet. I have already contacted Brownells and asked the same questions. Since the Austrian representative office only consists of a small warehouse and only ordered packages can be picked up there, it will take a while until Brownells Austria tells me what Brownells USA said. I've already ordered a lot there and enjoy doing it again and again - it just feels like it takes ages when I request something that isn't in the regular range. |
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Originally Posted By hodgescl: Asian- if you can’t get a good course for us stuff UTG has stepped up their game a lot. Some of the foreign made stuff still pretty nice these days. View Quote That is interesting. I've heard a lot about UTG so far, but there was nothing positive about it. Therefore it wouldn't have been on my wish list. |
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Originally Posted By martin_q: That is interesting. I've heard a lot about UTG so far, but there was nothing positive about it. Therefore it wouldn't have been on my wish list. View Quote However, they have their own barrel nut, so that's probably out. |
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Originally Posted By martin_q: The postman brought it to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By martin_q: Originally Posted By BhamAR: Ok, I won’t ask, I’ll demand. Tell me how you got the Fortis Handguard. The postman brought it to me. “From the gettin’ place…” Try the Danes. A euro MI dealer, maybe worth a phone call. |
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I'd just buy a rev2 off ebay. I really like mine. You like the one you have. Some dude on ebay isn't going to give half a shit about your importation laws. Might not be the best advice, but that's what I'd do. That or just decide to swap your barrel nut. It's not hard.
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Originally Posted By Stowe: I'd just buy a rev2 off ebay. I really like mine. You like the one you have. Some dude on ebay isn't going to give half a shit about your importation laws. Might not be the best advice, but that's what I'd do. That or just decide to swap your barrel nut. It's not hard. View Quote The problem is not my import laws, but your export laws. If a regulated part is intercepted at U.S. customs, the sender will get a lot of problems if he doesn't have an export permission.. Nothing will happen to me, I haven't broken any of my laws here. In the USA you can buy the cool stuff everywhere, but they only release it with extremely complicated export permits that are impossible to handle for private individuals. The fact that Austria is not in NATO makes importing even more difficult for me. German dealers often have what I want, but sometimes they are not allowed to re-export it to me. I know that changing the barrel nut is not difficult, but as already mentioned it is not for me but for a friend. He doesn't dare to do it, but he just wants to do something on his own. It always starts with small steps... |
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View Quote Update: I called this dealer and Brownells Austria - without success. They won't get it |
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VLTOR uses GI bbl nut plus standard delta ring setup. It's a midlength, but I used it on a carbine gas bbl.
https://www.vltor.com/shop/ar/handguards/casv-m-2-casv-handguard-midlength-for-midlength-gas-system-m-lok/ Attached File |
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