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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:22:25 PM EDT
I have several cans that are rated for it so I’m thinking I need a gun to use them on.  I’m thinking a Ruger Ranch or a CVA Scout TD single shot.  

I don’t hunt and I’m just a backyard plinker that’s addicted to shooting suppressed.  

Anyone here shoot that round suppressed?  Is it comparable to 300 BO suppressed sound wise?
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 12:35:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2024 12:41:08 PM EDT
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Not 350, but...

i have a 458 can (Rex) for my 16" 450BM.  Excitedly bought some Hornday 450BM subsonics (295gr IIRC).  they are pretty damn loud.  I was disappointed.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 12:56:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ECCO_Machine:
Supersonic loads will be a little louder due to the larger bullet cross section.   With subsonic in a manual action gun, it's a wash.

We picked up a Mossberg Patriot in Mossy Oak for our .350 Legend demo, great rifles for the money (I think we paid $339).  But of course that one didn't come threaded.

No experience with the CVA, but the issues I've seen with Ruger barrels from being banana shaped to threads so far off on both axial alignment and concentricity that it couldn't be corrected without cutting & rethreading in a lathe with a spindle bore that allowed for nearly an INCH of runout at the chamber end, I wouldn't want one if it were free.
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Wow!   I guess I got lucky with my Ranch models in 762x39 and 300 BO.  Both have been excellent suppressor hosts.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 1:00:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jd2395:
Not 350, but...

i have a 458 can (Rex) for my 16" 450BM.  Excitedly bought some Hornday 450BM subsonics (295gr IIRC).  they are pretty damn loud.  I was disappointed.
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That was my experience shooting my 45-70 CVA Scout with my Obsidian 45 and Hornady 45-70 subs.  So I ordered up a couple other cans to try/test out.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 1:10:54 PM EDT
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I was looking at this for a while, but I'm not really sure what the point would be when 300 blk exists, and you're not hunting. I forget the specifics, but I also seem to recall that subsonic 350 has to be heavy enough that the rifling twist becomes a bit of an issue with accuracy.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 1:17:12 PM EDT
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Tag for other .350L cheap host suggestions

Originally Posted By SteveJobs:
I was looking at this for a while, but I'm not really sure what the point would be when 300 blk exists, and you're not hunting. I forget the specifics, but I also seem to recall that subsonic 350 has to be heavy enough that the rifling twist becomes a bit of an issue with accuracy.
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This seems to be where I end up when I start this research. Then you talk about a scope, cut and thread, swapping bipods is for the poors so another bipod, blah blah and quit this search
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 5:39:21 PM EDT
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What is the deal with the barrel twist?  I want to pick up a
Howa mini action 16.25” barrel but the ones I have seen are 1:16 twist???
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 7:12:59 PM EDT
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My son has a .350 Legend AR he uses for hog hunting.   When we go out we screw my YHM R9 on it.

Haven't tried any subsonics through it yet, but supers are louder than .300 BLK.    

If you don't need the .350 for hunting, I would stick with the .300 BLK.   There aren't many subsonic .350 loads out there.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 9:46:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:17:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2024 6:21:13 AM EDT
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One slight advantage to 350 Legend is that Walmart seems to stock it with more regularity than 300blackout

I have also not seen 450 Bushmaster at Walmart in awhile
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 11:05:51 AM EDT
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I just got a can for my 350L, haven't had a chance to try it yet.  

I do hunt with mine and have an AR and a Savage Hog Hunter.  I really like the Savage.  It's a little more expensive than what you are looking at though.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:13:21 PM EDT
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Not an apples to apples comparison, but I'll take a shot.

Subsonic 300 Blackout vs subsonic .350 Legend, both were decently quiet with the slight edge going to the .300 Blackout being slightly more quiet.    

Supersonic 300 blackout vs supersonic 350 Legend, there was no discernable difference.    The supersonic crack was by far the loudest part of the firing cycle followed by the action noise.    

If I lived in an area that restricted hunting to straight walled cartridges, I would use a .350 Legend for sure.    I do use rather hot loaded .357 Magnums from a Ruger bolt action rifle and the .350 Legend easily out performs the hottest .357 Magnum I care to load.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 12:22:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VaFish:
My son has a .350 Legend AR he uses for hog hunting.   When we go out we screw my YHM R9 on it.

Haven't tried any subsonics through it yet, but supers are louder than .300 BLK.    

If you don't need the .350 for hunting, I would stick with the .300 BLK.   There aren't many subsonic .350 loads out there.
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Same setup for OH deer.
Supersonic rifle is never going to quiet, with a K can it is less loud, less recoil and a couple shots without ear pro is not bad at all.
I like it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 1:11:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By McGruff1533: I do use rather hot loaded .357 Magnums from a Ruger bolt action rifle and the .350 Legend easily out performs the hottest .357 Magnum I care to load.
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Threads are decent on those?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 3:07:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR:
Threads are decent on those?
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If you are asking about the Ruger bolt action, yes.   The threads are good but it was not factory.    Had a local guy thread it 5/8x24.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 3:51:05 PM EDT
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This guy is a member here, forget his user name. Maybe he'll see the post and chime in.

Can The 350 Legend Be This Quiet | Bowers Group Suppressed

Is This The End of The 300BLK Subsonic | 350 Legend
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 6:36:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ECCO_Machine:
Supersonic loads will be a little louder due to the larger bullet cross section.   With subsonic in a manual action gun, it's a wash.

We picked up a Mossberg Patriot in Mossy Oak for our .350 Legend demo, great rifles for the money (I think we paid $339).  But of course that one didn't come threaded.

No experience with the CVA, but the issues I've seen with Ruger barrels from being banana shaped to threads so far off on both axial alignment and concentricity that it couldn't be corrected without cutting & rethreading in a lathe with a spindle bore that allowed for nearly an INCH of runout at the chamber end, I wouldn't want one if it were free.
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I have to agree with above advice.

Anecdotal so take it for what its worth, between myself and 2 other guys who I hunt and shoot regularly with, at least 5 rugers with issues in the last year. 3 of them have been ruger americans, two in 350 legend, one in 450 bushmaster. The other two were a Ruger precison Rimfire, and a NOS original Ruger Precision Rifle.

My 350 legend ruger american failed to feed from the factory, even after ruger sent me multiple mags to Try. After, I tried a magpul Hunter STANAG style, and an AR mag, still wouldnt feed. After getting it to finally chamber a round, it shot, and the bolt jammed up inside. Tried as hard as I could to pull it out, and the bolt came apart in my hand.

After sending it back to ruger for repair, they replaced the bolt, installed a new barrel, replaced just about everything other than the receiver (maintaining the same serial number). I sold it immediately after getting it back from the repair shop.

As far as Im concerned, for "budget" choices, I would look at Bergara's new for 2024 offering in 350 legend, or the Howa mini (what I own now).
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 7:14:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Tag for other .350L cheap host suggestions


This seems to be where I end up when I start this research. Then you talk about a scope, cut and thread, swapping bipods is for the poors so another bipod, blah blah and quit this search
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Ruger American Ranch, lots of Gen I's still out there for $550 or so.   16" threaded barrel and they use AR15 mags.   I have RAR in .300 BLK and .450 Bushmaster.  They also make them in .223, 7.62x39 and .350 Legend.   The Gen II's are now out, so maybe GenI's prices will come down.

My .300 BLK with YHM Resonator R2.  Mouse fart quiet with subsonics.   I haven't even shot supers in it.


Couple little ones from Late Antlerless Season taken with Hornady 190 gr subsonics at about 40 yards.   Shot the first one and the second one just stood there.



Buck with shed antlers from late antlerless season, taken with .450 Busmaster and Hornady Black supersonics at about 60 yards.  Shot twice at him and the first shot didn't bother him at all.



Buck taken in regular season with .450 Bushmaster and Hornady Black Supersonics at about 60 yards.  Shot over a doe's back to hit him, she jumped a little but hung around for 6 minutes until 2 more smaller bucks showed up.





Link Posted: 4/17/2024 7:23:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jd2395:
Not 350, but...

i have a 458 can (Rex) for my 16" 450BM.  Excitedly bought some Hornday 450BM subsonics (295gr IIRC).  they are pretty damn loud.  I was disappointed.
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I have the same setup, I have several boxes of subs but hardly ever shoot them.  They aren't much quieter than the supers.   Although strangely the deer don't seem bothered by the sound of the suppressed supersonics.

The Rex MG7 is a pretty short can.    I may get an adapter and try my RAD45 on the .450 BM.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 11:08:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/12/2024 3:08:37 PM EDT
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Picked up a RAR and very happy with it after only shooting 40 rounds.  Very quiet with the DA Wolfman and the Ecco TLX 9 was as quiet as the other cans.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 4:21:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 12:08:34 AM EDT
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Lost another auction for 350 legend rifle this morning. Seems like it ain’t meant to be
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:52:07 AM EDT
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I ordered the rifle from here, https://www.a1tacticaloutdoors.com/product/354479/
First time ordering from them and they had it at my FFL within 2 days.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 9:37:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By arndog123:
I ordered the rifle from here, https://www.a1tacticaloutdoors.com/product/354479/
First time ordering from them and they had it at my FFL within 2 days.
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I need to quit clicking on links.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 10:00:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By McGruff1533:


If you are asking about the Ruger bolt action, yes.   The threads are good but it was not factory.    Had a local guy thread it 5/8x24.
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Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 11:49:14 AM EDT
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I have a 7.5" 300 Blk SBR and a 16" 350L (AR platform).   Running a SiCo 36M on both, the 350L subs are noticeably louder than the 300 Blk, but not a great deal more (and that's switching to proper end cap diameters).  If I leave the 9mm end cap on, then they sound about the same since that makes the 300 a little bit louder.  I have not measured any of this with equipment, just going off my ear.

The 350L subs I ran are the Winchester 265 grain Super Suppressed.  Accuracy was so-so compared to the ammo my rifle really likes (150 grain Xtreme Point).  I know Maker Bullets has/had 280 grain all coppers, but those require a 1:10 twist vs the standard 1:16.  Maybe one day I'll get a 1:10 barrel and load some up, but I've got other firearm projects/wants before I do that.  

The problem, for me, is that 265 grain projectile in the 350L provides less than 100 lb-ft more energy over the 225 grain out of the 300 Blk at 1050 FPS.  The larger diameter of the 350 certainly has potential for bigger heavier bullets for more energy at sub speeds, but that starts changing parameters that'll require barrel twists and bullets outside what's readily available.  Not sure everyone is clamoring to go there with this cartridge when others are available that already do that.  On the other hand, what you can do with the 350 and without having buy a new barrel and all that, is to go the other direction, lighter bullets at stupid speeds.  Nitto (AP2020 Outdoors) loaded some 90 grain LeHighs and was getting over 3,000 FPS.  LeHigh has the same bullet down to 68 grains...would be interesting to see how fast those would go.

Also, I know the 300 Blk with with the subsonic 225's will go through soft armor, but I don't think the 350L load will...if defense is a concern.
Link Posted: 5/26/2024 12:00:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EDL:

Also, I know the 300 Blk with with the subsonic 225's will go through soft armor, but I don't think the 350L load will...if defense is a concern.
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That would depend on which soft armor level is being used. What 225 sub? I've used some 220 TMJ's and they get stopped by IIIA.

The subsonic 350L is pretty darn quiet, a few rounds of it vs supers at the end of this review:
350 Legend (9x43mm), 255gr OTM, Subsonic, Winchester SUP350

Link Posted: 8/8/2024 9:24:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By McGruff1533:
Not an apples to apples comparison, but I'll take a shot.

Subsonic 300 Blackout vs subsonic .350 Legend, both were decently quiet with the slight edge going to the .300 Blackout being slightly more quiet.    

Supersonic 300 blackout vs supersonic 350 Legend, there was no discernable difference.    The supersonic crack was by far the loudest part of the firing cycle followed by the action noise.    

If I lived in an area that restricted hunting to straight walled cartridges, I would use a .350 Legend for sure.    I do use rather hot loaded .357 Magnums from a Ruger bolt action rifle and the .350 Legend easily out performs the hottest .357 Magnum I care to load.
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What supressor are you using on the 35 cal?
Link Posted: 8/8/2024 9:28:06 PM EDT
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What supressor do you guys recomend for 35 cal rifle? I would like something light weight. The alaskan 360 ti looks good but it is really pricey.
Link Posted: 8/8/2024 10:26:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dana:
What supressor do you guys recomend for 35 cal rifle? I would like something light weight. The alaskan 360 ti looks good but it is really pricey.
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Quiet, lightweight, cheap (relative)

Pick 2
Link Posted: 8/8/2024 11:27:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Luny421:

Quiet, lightweight, cheap (relative)

Pick 2
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I know. I use a Nomade Ti now and love it. Just wanted to know if there were other options.
Link Posted: 8/9/2024 4:52:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dana:
What supressor do you guys recomend for 35 cal rifle? I would like something light weight. The alaskan 360 ti looks good but it is really pricey.
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YHM R9, light, cheap, quiet enough for a couple shots.
Link Posted: 9/24/2024 8:14:08 AM EDT
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Has anyone tried a tri lug mount on the 350L?
I'm thinking about getting a 350L so I can put my obsidian9 on it in short configuration to hunt with.
Link Posted: 9/24/2024 7:22:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kabob:
Has anyone tried a tri lug mount on the 350L?
I'm thinking about getting a 350L so I can put my obsidian9 on it in short configuration to hunt with.
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BAADDD idea.

Tri Lug is made for 9mm Pistol power levels.

If you shoot only subsonic .350 legend through it, it MIGHT be ok.   If you shoot full power .350 Legend for it you will be searching for your suppressor in the woods.
Link Posted: 9/24/2024 7:25:42 PM EDT
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