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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:42:59 PM EDT
I watched the Brass Facts review of the LS-M3 and LS-FL5 and it got me curious about trying one. Evidently, Laserspeed is coming out with an M3 that moves the IR, Vis, and IR Designator to one side of the body like a Holosun 321G called the Laserspeed LS-M6.

I'd like to give it a try, but pre-ordering a unit while having no idea about the specs, performance, durability, and switch compatibility is tough.

Does anyone have any more insights or color on this new unit?

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Link Posted: 12/4/2023 6:49:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nobody69s] [#1]
Just received the Laserspeed M3 and it's a fantastic laser!
I was worried about the quality but other than the remote switch port, I'd say it's on par with Steiner Dbal D2's.
The tape switch is the weak point IMO.
There's little tiny wires on the tape switch side that are only held in with little set screws.
I'll probably end up getting a 90 degree end and soldering the wires in, if I decide I need to use the tape switch.
This is a FP unit that reaches WAY out.
It's a solid unit.
I would venture to guess the M6 will be just as good.
In for other comments.

ETA: Where are you finding the M6 for pre-order?
Link Posted: 12/4/2023 6:59:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: French1966] [#2]
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Originally Posted By Nobody69s:
Just received the Laserspeed M3 and it's a fantastic laser!
I was worried about the quality but other than the remote switch port, I'd say it's on par with Steiner Dbal D2's.
The tape switch is the weak point IMO.
There's little tiny wires on the tape switch side that are only held in with little set screws.
I'll probably end up getting a 90 degree end and soldering the wires in, if I decide I need to use the tape switch.
This is a FP unit that reaches WAY out.
It's a solid unit.
I would venture to guess the M6 will be just as good.
In for other comments.

ETA: Where are you finding the M6 for pre-order?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/395031519419?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wjjowzbbtx6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rTrrhxZ6QZC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I’m dubbing it the “ChinGAL” (copyright of French&Associates)

Too bad they made the fire button for lefties, but at least you can change the batteries on it unlike the RAID
Link Posted: 12/4/2023 7:10:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By French1966:



https://www.ebay.com/itm/395031519419?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wjjowzbbtx6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rTrrhxZ6QZC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I'm dubbing it the "ChinGAL" (copyright of French&Associates)

Too bad they made the fire button for lefties, but at least you can change the batteries on it unlike the RAID
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Thanks French for the link.
I really hate to support the commies but it's a legit FP laser.
The FDA needs to pull their heads out of their asses and let us have FP units.
Link Posted: 12/4/2023 10:15:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By French1966:
Too bad they made the fire button for lefties, but at least you can change the batteries on it unlike the RAID
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I ain't messed with the RAID, but I've never had issues with my RAID-X or RAID-Xe with changing batteries while it was mounted to the gun.
Link Posted: 12/12/2023 12:18:38 PM EDT
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I might end up buying one of these. Weight and Size looks good. I figure it's roughly the same risk I took on my PERST and that's worked out fine so far. I think I'll wait till after the pre-sale though. I've seen ETA's ranging from late December to March.
Link Posted: 12/17/2023 10:43:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HitTheForwardAssist] [#6]
Definitely interested in this, looks way more compact and nicer than the prior offerings. I'll probably pick one up when I have the funds and sell my LS321. Finally something made for lefties!

I have no qualms purchasing this from China when other options are trash in their own unique ways. Whether it's price, illuminator, etc. Competition breeds innovation. We don't have to accept getting bent over by other manufacturers.
Link Posted: 12/18/2023 8:43:16 PM EDT
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So, this or the Z-Bolt ACAL. I realize they are different beasts but roughly in the same ballpark on price point.
Link Posted: 12/19/2023 12:45:45 AM EDT
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Z bolt's unit been "in development" for awhile and it looks like only the civ variant will be for commercial sale.
Link Posted: 1/19/2024 7:47:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By atek3:
So, this or the Z-Bolt ACAL. I realize they are different beasts but roughly in the same ballpark on price point.
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You mean this, the ACAL, or the Holosun IRIS.

Holosun dude on Reddit says under 1K and has a VCSEL illuminator.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 1:43:48 PM EDT
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These have been shipping for a week or so. Curious if anyone here has one yet. I've seen some pictures but no video.
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 6:21:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KC-ROUGHNECK:
These have been shipping for a week or so. Curious if anyone here has one yet. I've seen some pictures but no video.
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I ordered two, one from the Ebay site and another here stateside after being impressed with the first. They replaced my LS321Gs if that tells you anything. Great build quality, holds zero, insanely powerful.. as in, you will torch someone's nutsack off with the illuminator

There are a number of videos on YouTube at this point. Criminally underrated LAMs IMO
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 10:41:32 PM EDT
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There is going to be a group buy found elsewhere for an exclusive (for now) version that is lighter, has a better fire button placement for right-handers, and takes Crane plug.
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 11:22:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: French1966] [#13]
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Originally Posted By DDS87:
There is going to be a group buy found elsewhere for an exclusive (for now) version that is lighter, has a better fire button placement for right-handers, and takes Crane plug.
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Here are the prototype photos for anyone interested. Courtesy of the reddit user who is doing the group buy and helped Laserspeed with design input. I’ll probably post here whenever the units are ready for purchase, and can help people get in contact with the seller (I don’t think they’ll be available direct from laserspeed unless they adopt it as the gen2 M6 design).

It looks very promising

I went ahead and ordered a regular M6 to mess with, and will probably post a review of it at some point. Depending on how It goes I’ll grab one of these revised ones also.

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Link Posted: 3/23/2024 2:29:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Horrible_Aim] [#14]
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Originally Posted By French1966:



Here are the prototype photos for anyone interested. Courtesy of the reddit user who is doing the group buy and helped Laserspeed with design input. I’ll probably post here whenever the units are ready for purchase, and can help people get in contact with the seller (I don’t think they’ll be available direct from laserspeed unless they adopt it as the gen2 M6 design).

It looks very promising

I went ahead and ordered a regular M6 to mess with, and will probably post a review of it at some point. Depending on how It goes I’ll grab one of these revised ones also.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0395_jpeg-3165807.JPG
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The M6 is great in its current form, they should have went with this new design from the start though. Looks like a totally different unit

One interesting part.. the center (between laser & battery compartment) on the M6 is hollow, with a rubber plug on the end for tool storage. They must have collapsed this gap and shrunk the horizontal size
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:05:13 AM EDT
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I posted my review here.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Laserspeed-M6-arrived/18-549976/

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 3:15:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: French1966] [#16]
Just got one to mess with.

So far the biggest drawback I see is the lack of illuminator diffuser for CQB as well as no neutral density filter for the ir pointer. Basically there’s no way to get a “pointer low/illuminator high” setting. They should have built that in to the settings if they weren’t going to make a diffuser/NDF cover… but china is gonna china

That as well as the obvious things that people have pointed out such as the fire button location. As a right handed shooter I can’t use the onboard fire button, so that’s obviously a dealbreaker for some. Wasn’t a dealbreaker for me because I planned on using the included tape switch system (which is surprisingly of good quality). Even the plug system seems pretty robust, at least much better than anything that came on the early Russia Perst units.

May eventually do a review of it once I get enough time using it.

Somebody good with 3D printing could easily make a diffuser for the illuminator. If any of you guys are interested in that project let me know and I’ll do my best to get you measurements or send the unit to you (I’m thinking of the guy who did all the cool stuff with the perst products). I have some pretty good ideas of how to do it and would help someone with design input.

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Link Posted: 3/28/2024 6:46:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Horrible_Aim] [#17]
There are 90 degree switches available on their ebay/aliexpress pages, around $30 each shipped.

I'm able to grip mine and hit the button as a right-hander, but it's not ideal. Just can't understand the design logic of this layout. In an email exchange Laserspeed confirmed they're making changes, presumably the crane port and the button placement (feedback has been universal on both)

This thing is insanely powerful and holds zero.. easy to overlook it's shortcomings given the actual performance. I would 10000% recommend one over the Somogear gamble for a FP unit

Link Posted: 3/28/2024 10:37:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Horrible_Aim:
There are 90 degree switches available on their ebay/aliexpress pages, around $30 each shipped.

I'm able to grip mine and hit the button as a right-hander, but it's not ideal. Just can't understand the design logic of this layout. In an email exchange Laserspeed confirmed they're making changes, presumably the crane port and the button placement (feedback has been universal on both)

This thing is insanely powerful and holds zero.. easy to overlook it's shortcomings given the actual performance. I would 10000% recommend one over the Somogear gamble for a FP unit

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@Horrible_Aim

Do you happen to have a link for the 90 degree switches?

I looked on ebay and aliexpress but can’t find anything. Would love to buy one.
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 8:56:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By French1966:


@Horrible_Aim

Do you happen to have a link for the 90 degree switches?

I looked on ebay and aliexpress but can’t find anything. Would love to buy one.
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https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806389787716.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.21ef1802yuxaVC&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

Let me know if this link works. Their store pages aren't labeled very well, hard to find stuff
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 6:48:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Horrible_Aim:


https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806389787716.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.21ef1802yuxaVC&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

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That’s awesome, thanks
Link Posted: 4/1/2024 4:36:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By French1966:



Here are the prototype photos for anyone interested. Courtesy of the reddit user who is doing the group buy and helped Laserspeed with design input. I’ll probably post here whenever the units are ready for purchase, and can help people get in contact with the seller (I don’t think they’ll be available direct from laserspeed unless they adopt it as the gen2 M6 design).

It looks very promising

I went ahead and ordered a regular M6 to mess with, and will probably post a review of it at some point. Depending on how It goes I’ll grab one of these revised ones also.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0395_jpeg-3165807.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0396_jpeg-3165808.JPG
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Any idea when this version will be available? Seems like this and the ACAL are the ones to beat? Did I miss pricing somewhere?
Link Posted: 4/1/2024 5:11:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rlsmith96:


Any idea when this version will be available? Seems like this and the ACAL are the ones to beat? Did I miss pricing somewhere?
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Reddit group buy. First is a batch of 30 at the end of April, then more down the line.

He isn't taking pre-orders or reservations, so we're basically just stuck hitting the refresh button until he posts it
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