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Posted: 4/4/2024 1:18:38 AM EDT
Think it would be an awesome range toy. Either an ar or 10/22 conversion would be ideal.
I did a quick search but mostly came up with limited production runs by various manufacturers and currently unavailable.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 10:03:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Nothing that I know of. 22LR belt fed is a finiky thing due to the low power of 22LR.


I think there are 1-2 3D printed designs around that you can DIY.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:56:14 PM EDT
[#2]
The Tippman Gatlin Gun is the only one I know of.

https://tippmannordnance.com/22lr-gatling-gun/
Link Posted: 4/5/2024 1:06:09 AM EDT
[#3]
It's neat but not $4,600 neat. Might just have to settle on a ccmg conversion & a frt or binary.
Link Posted: 4/5/2024 12:31:35 PM EDT
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Lakeside machine used to make a belt fed upper receiver for the AR. They do show up from time to time but they end up being pretty pricey.

Last one I saw for sale was about 2.5k, they were 750 is new when lake side was making them.


I had a Tippman 1919 at the time and lakeside was the only company making links for me to use. I miss the 1919 as it was a fun gun to shoot (it was a mg) but it would break the links after a while and the cloth belts sucked to load.
Link Posted: 4/5/2024 2:39:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 27Katana:
Lakeside machine used to make a belt fed upper receiver for the AR. They do show up from time to time but they end up being pretty pricey.

Last one I saw for sale was about 2.5k, they were 750 is new when lake side was making them.


I had a Tippman 1919 at the time and lakeside was the only company making links for me to use. I miss the 1919 as it was a fun gun to shoot (it was a mg) but it would break the links after a while and the cloth belts sucked to load.
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I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16.  He sent me the first pre-production prototype.  The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750.  Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features.  Those were not $750 either.  I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then.  I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750.

Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies.  I don't know if any were ever produced or what.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3
Link Posted: 4/5/2024 7:22:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By amphibian:
I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16.  He sent me the first pre-production prototype.  The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750.  Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features.  Those were not $750 either.  I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then.  I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750.

Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies.  I don't know if any were ever produced or what.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3
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Originally Posted By amphibian:
Originally Posted By 27Katana:
Lakeside machine used to make a belt fed upper receiver for the AR. They do show up from time to time but they end up being pretty pricey.

Last one I saw for sale was about 2.5k, they were 750 is new when lake side was making them.


I had a Tippman 1919 at the time and lakeside was the only company making links for me to use. I miss the 1919 as it was a fun gun to shoot (it was a mg) but it would break the links after a while and the cloth belts sucked to load.
I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16.  He sent me the first pre-production prototype.  The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750.  Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features.  Those were not $750 either.  I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then.  I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750.

Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies.  I don't know if any were ever produced or what.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3


Sorry, I was going by memory. Funny thing is I paid 2500 for my Tippmann 1919 transferable. It was new unfired when I bought it.
Link Posted: 4/8/2024 8:27:03 PM EDT
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At the very end of the latest "do you hate Biden enough" arfcom YouTube video, around the 8:13 mark, it shows a 3 sec clip of someone painting a steel target with a belt fed 22. Any idea who made it? Looks like ar upper & lower with an m60 style bipod.
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Link Posted: 4/8/2024 10:14:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Asylum9:
At the very end of the latest "do you hate Biden enough" arfcom YouTube video, around the 8:13 mark, it shows a 3 sec clip of someone painting a steel target with a belt fed 22. Any idea who made it? Looks like ar upper & lower with an m60 style bipod.
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That was the Razorback built by Lakeside Machine. Was a mini 1919 that is now out of production. You can still find them here and there.

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Razorback
Link Posted: 4/10/2024 2:55:05 PM EDT
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I have a LM7, with the upgraded bolt carrier from the razorback. Best combo in my opinion. The LM7 was the premium deluxe as mentioned, quick change barrels, a lot of thought put into it. The razor back was the economy model but they made improvements to the bolt carrier, thus I bought a razorback bolt group which helped reliability significantly.

Great fun if you can get your 3rd hole lower to sync well and have some broken in cloth belts. Finicky with ammo, I found CCI minimag to be the best ammo for smooth operation. CCI stinger was great as well, but pricey and not as available.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:24:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Anyone have an idea of what a semi Tippmann 1919
would go for these days?Been looking around and not
much out there for sale or sold
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 1:37:02 PM EDT
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Anyone have an idea of what a semi Tippmann 1919
would go for these days?Been looking around and not
much out there for sale or sold
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Last one I saw (semi-auto 1/2 scale .22LR) went for $15K on Gunbroker.  That was in 2022.
Link Posted: 4/26/2024 11:27:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Thank You
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 10:55:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By amphibian:
I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16.  He sent me the first pre-production prototype.  The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750.  Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features.  Those were not $750 either.  I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then.  I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750.

Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies.  I don't know if any were ever produced or what.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3
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My best friend bought two @ $750 early on and gave me one, FWIW.

It ends up being quite a bit more than that once you start buying accessories but the basic upper and a few 50 round belts were $750. I wish Eric stuck it out with the razorback….

One of my Grail Guns is a Vindicator in .17HM2.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 10:57:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JsbsMarine:
I have a LM7, with the upgraded bolt carrier from the razorback. Best combo in my opinion. The LM7 was the premium deluxe as mentioned, quick change barrels, a lot of thought put into it. The razor back was the economy model but they made improvements to the bolt carrier, thus I bought a razorback bolt group which helped reliability significantly.

Great fun if you can get your 3rd hole lower to sync well and have some broken in cloth belts. Finicky with ammo, I found CCI minimag to be the best ammo for smooth operation. CCI stinger was great as well, but pricey and not as available.
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For me, reliability has always come down to the length of the bullet as it affects where the rim ends up relative to the bolt face and extractor engagement. CCI standard velocity runs about 99%. He used to have a tuning guide on his website but I never got around to monkeying with the gun.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 10:59:30 PM EDT
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I do want to warn you guys about cycling the charging handle with a live round in the gun and no incoming round to push it out…. I had an AD in my bedroom this way trying to diagnose a problem about 15 years ago-the round nosed up into the chamber from it’s eject position and detonated OOB but some of the projectile went into my bed.
Link Posted: Yesterday 5:05:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By amphibian:
I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16.  He sent me the first pre-production prototype.  The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750.  Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features.  Those were not $750 either.  I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then.  I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750.

Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies.  I don't know if any were ever produced or what.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3
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The first run Eric made were lettered with a 1 of 100 script.  They had a non quck change barrel and a short railed forearm.  They were under 700, either 595 or 695 as I recall.  I will look and see if I still have my invoice.  My invoice was for a bit more as I bought several belts and Eric's loading kit.  Later versions had different barrel lengths and then quick change barrels.  I believe the last price was 1300?

Amphibian, here's mt Uzitalk review with one of the first 100 from 2009.  Sadly I didn't mention the price.
https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/lakeside-razorback.49112/
Link Posted: Yesterday 5:31:55 PM EDT
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This thread is just a good excuse for me to post a pic of my daughter's birthday present so she and Dad could have matching 1919's. We both were a bit younger in that photo: she just got married last month.  

I bought that Tippmann 1919 .22lr at - of all places - San Francisco Gun Exchange. I dunno, maybe it was $2700 or so? (Semi, whereas the .308 was a machinegun.)
It came with the little wood transit chest and all the baby green ammo cans and cloth belts. Pain to load, and in the end just a fun novelty: I sold it years later to someone who paid me a lot more than I bought it for, but a lot less than they sell for now.

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