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Posted: 4/4/2024 1:18:38 AM EDT
Think it would be an awesome range toy. Either an ar or 10/22 conversion would be ideal.
I did a quick search but mostly came up with limited production runs by various manufacturers and currently unavailable. |
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Nothing that I know of. 22LR belt fed is a finiky thing due to the low power of 22LR.
I think there are 1-2 3D printed designs around that you can DIY. |
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It's neat but not $4,600 neat. Might just have to settle on a ccmg conversion & a frt or binary.
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Lakeside machine used to make a belt fed upper receiver for the AR. They do show up from time to time but they end up being pretty pricey.
Last one I saw for sale was about 2.5k, they were 750 is new when lake side was making them. I had a Tippman 1919 at the time and lakeside was the only company making links for me to use. I miss the 1919 as it was a fun gun to shoot (it was a mg) but it would break the links after a while and the cloth belts sucked to load. |
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Originally Posted By 27Katana: Lakeside machine used to make a belt fed upper receiver for the AR. They do show up from time to time but they end up being pretty pricey. Last one I saw for sale was about 2.5k, they were 750 is new when lake side was making them. I had a Tippman 1919 at the time and lakeside was the only company making links for me to use. I miss the 1919 as it was a fun gun to shoot (it was a mg) but it would break the links after a while and the cloth belts sucked to load. View Quote Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies. I don't know if any were ever produced or what. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3 |
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Originally Posted By amphibian: I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16. He sent me the first pre-production prototype. The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750. Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features. Those were not $750 either. I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then. I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750. Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies. I don't know if any were ever produced or what. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By amphibian: Originally Posted By 27Katana: Lakeside machine used to make a belt fed upper receiver for the AR. They do show up from time to time but they end up being pretty pricey. Last one I saw for sale was about 2.5k, they were 750 is new when lake side was making them. I had a Tippman 1919 at the time and lakeside was the only company making links for me to use. I miss the 1919 as it was a fun gun to shoot (it was a mg) but it would break the links after a while and the cloth belts sucked to load. Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies. I don't know if any were ever produced or what. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3 Sorry, I was going by memory. Funny thing is I paid 2500 for my Tippmann 1919 transferable. It was new unfired when I bought it. |
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At the very end of the latest "do you hate Biden enough" arfcom YouTube video, around the 8:13 mark, it shows a 3 sec clip of someone painting a steel target with a belt fed 22. Any idea who made it? Looks like ar upper & lower with an m60 style bipod.
Arfcom video |
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Originally Posted By Asylum9: At the very end of the latest "do you hate Biden enough" arfcom YouTube video, around the 8:13 mark, it shows a 3 sec clip of someone painting a steel target with a belt fed 22. Any idea who made it? Looks like ar upper & lower with an m60 style bipod. Arfcom video View Quote That was the Razorback built by Lakeside Machine. Was a mini 1919 that is now out of production. You can still find them here and there. Edit - Razorback |
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I have a LM7, with the upgraded bolt carrier from the razorback. Best combo in my opinion. The LM7 was the premium deluxe as mentioned, quick change barrels, a lot of thought put into it. The razor back was the economy model but they made improvements to the bolt carrier, thus I bought a razorback bolt group which helped reliability significantly.
Great fun if you can get your 3rd hole lower to sync well and have some broken in cloth belts. Finicky with ammo, I found CCI minimag to be the best ammo for smooth operation. CCI stinger was great as well, but pricey and not as available. |
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Anyone have an idea of what a semi Tippmann 1919
would go for these days?Been looking around and not much out there for sale or sold |
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Thank You
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Originally Posted By amphibian: I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16. He sent me the first pre-production prototype. The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750. Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features. Those were not $750 either. I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then. I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750. Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies. I don't know if any were ever produced or what. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3 View Quote My best friend bought two @ $750 early on and gave me one, FWIW. It ends up being quite a bit more than that once you start buying accessories but the basic upper and a few 50 round belts were $750. I wish Eric stuck it out with the razorback…. One of my Grail Guns is a Vindicator in .17HM2. |
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Originally Posted By JsbsMarine: I have a LM7, with the upgraded bolt carrier from the razorback. Best combo in my opinion. The LM7 was the premium deluxe as mentioned, quick change barrels, a lot of thought put into it. The razor back was the economy model but they made improvements to the bolt carrier, thus I bought a razorback bolt group which helped reliability significantly. Great fun if you can get your 3rd hole lower to sync well and have some broken in cloth belts. Finicky with ammo, I found CCI minimag to be the best ammo for smooth operation. CCI stinger was great as well, but pricey and not as available. View Quote For me, reliability has always come down to the length of the bullet as it affects where the rim ends up relative to the bolt face and extractor engagement. CCI standard velocity runs about 99%. He used to have a tuning guide on his website but I never got around to monkeying with the gun. |
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I do want to warn you guys about cycling the charging handle with a live round in the gun and no incoming round to push it out…. I had an AD in my bedroom this way trying to diagnose a problem about 15 years ago-the round nosed up into the chamber from it’s eject position and detonated OOB but some of the projectile went into my bed.
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Never make another person a priority when they merely see you as an option...
"Some People Are Like Slinkies. They're Not Really Good For Anything, But They Bring a Smile To Your Face When Pushed Down The Stairs." |
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Originally Posted By amphibian: I was the guy mentioned in the SAR article that approached Eric at the Creek to make a belt fed upper for the M16. He sent me the first pre-production prototype. The LM7 first came out and they were $1750 each not $750. Later the Razorback came out which didn't have quick change barrels and some other features. Those were not $750 either. I did a group buy for like 7 or of them...can't remember the exact quantity and got them for $700 each which was a great deal back then. I can't remember what the regular price was but pretty sure it wasn't $750. Here is an old thread regarding the Lithocore unauthorized copies. I don't know if any were ever produced or what. https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/LithocoreX/23-491320/&page=3 View Quote The first run Eric made were lettered with a 1 of 100 script. They had a non quck change barrel and a short railed forearm. They were under 700, either 595 or 695 as I recall. I will look and see if I still have my invoice. My invoice was for a bit more as I bought several belts and Eric's loading kit. Later versions had different barrel lengths and then quick change barrels. I believe the last price was 1300? Amphibian, here's mt Uzitalk review with one of the first 100 from 2009. Sadly I didn't mention the price. https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/lakeside-razorback.49112/ |
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