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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2023 11:37:06 AM EDT
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Question for anyone who has gotten to shoot the carbine (16") and the 14" pistol: Since the 14" barrel is lighter, did anyone notice an accuracy difference, especially when hot.
I couldn't really find much, but there were a few posts (not here) about the lighter barreled gun's groups REALLY opening up and fairly quickly too. of course, these people could have been full of shit too. I want to P&W a 14", I'd have little problem cutting a 16", except I don't know who does that, if it would screw with the system, or if it is just a stupid idea. I'd like a lighter gun, but not at the expense of accuracy. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2023 10:08:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kiddsf]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Question for anyone who has gotten to shoot the carbine (16") and the 14" pistol: Since the 14" barrel is lighter, did anyone notice an accuracy difference, especially when hot. I couldn't really find much, but there were a few posts (not here) about the lighter barreled gun's groups REALLY opening up and fairly quickly too. of course, these people could have been full of shit too. I want to P&W a 14", I'd have little problem cutting a 16", except I don't know who does that, if it would screw with the system, or if it is just a stupid idea. I'd like a lighter gun, but not at the expense of accuracy. I had both and decided to just keep the 16" due to 14" being slightly less accurate with the FMJ ammo it likes and unable to keep that accuracy for too long due to the thin barrel. The barrel diameter of the Bren2 14" is 0.55" which is oddly thin. The accuracy was fine at 2.5-3MOA 10rd group at 100yard with Norma 223 55gr FMJ. The issue for me as alluded to is the light 0.55" barrel which heats up too quick and the accuracy degrades to about 4-5MOA only after 20-40rds. The Bren2 Carbine 16" is about 2MOA and can maintain that accuracy for longer. As a reference, my SCAR16 with its LW barrel (0.65" before GB and 0.58" after GB) was able to maintain its accuracy better as well. (1.5MOA capable using FMJ it likes which is Geco 223 55gr) Like always, it all depends on what the user want out of the gun. For how I use my rifles/carbines, I am fine with the extra weight of the HBAR barrel on the Bren2 Carbine. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2023 2:45:12 PM EDT
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All I can tell you is that my 16 inch carbine hates Winchester m193. 4-5 inch groups. Various match ammo shoots 1.0-1.75” dependent on brand.
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Posted: 10/16/2023 11:12:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zeebz]
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Not sure if you guys saw it, but James from TFBTV did an interview with the CEO of CZ the other day. One of the guns he brought up was the Bren 2.
The CEO confirmed they will be releasing a Bren 2 in 300 BLK, but gave no timeframe. No answer specifically on the Bren 2 BR, unfortunately. James mentioned it, but the CEO took that question about the Bren 2 BR and x39 kits and actually used it as a segue into mentioning they're working on a Bren 3/generation 3. As of now there's no timeframe on release for the Bren 3, but he confirmed it'd have improved ergonomics and other additions LE and military have been requesting to the platform.  Big News & Answers to Viewer Qs from CZ's CEO, Jan Zajic |
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Posted: 10/16/2023 1:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Not sure if you guys saw it, but James from TFBTV did an interview with the CEO of CZ the other day. One of the guns he brought up was the Bren 2. The CEO confirmed they will be releasing a Bren 2 in 300 BLK, but gave no timeframe. No answer specifically on the Bren 2 BR, unfortunately. James mentioned it, but the CEO took that question about the Bren 2 BR and x39 kits and actually used it as a segue into mentioning they're working on a Bren 3/generation 3. As of now there's no timeframe on release for the Bren 3, but he confirmed it'd have improved ergonomics and other additions LE and military have been requesting to the platform.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI86teAa4k8This sounds like the PDW stock/receiver upgrades that Forgotten Weapons had talked about in his video. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/30/2023 3:08:44 PM EDT
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I got two of my Brens cerakoted in burnt bronze (the FM15s were done in the bright green from multicam with a couple of drops of burnt bronze in the mix).
 
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Not sure if you guys saw it, but James from TFBTV did an interview with the CEO of CZ the other day. One of the guns he brought up was the Bren 2. The CEO confirmed they will be releasing a Bren 2 in 300 BLK, but gave no timeframe. No answer specifically on the Bren 2 BR, unfortunately. James mentioned it, but the CEO took that question about the Bren 2 BR and x39 kits and actually used it as a segue into mentioning they're working on a Bren 3/generation 3. As of now there's no timeframe on release for the Bren 3, but he confirmed it'd have improved ergonomics and other additions LE and military have been requesting to the platform. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI86teAa4k8I just want one of the Euro model Bren 2 MS 11”s with the extended handguard and gas system. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 10:06:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Super_Trouper: I just want one of the Euro model Bren 2 MS 11”s with the extended handguard and gas system. Yes please |
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Posted: 11/24/2023 12:19:16 PM EDT
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 CZ Bren 2 PPS Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) Review Still no word on getting this on the US commercial market. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 12:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBXT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwx0ldsVGQStill no word on getting this on the US commercial market. If the DMR comes to market, I will most definitely grab one of those. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/8/2023 12:27:11 AM EDT
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8", 11" or both? Both will be suppressed .really can't decide. I have no 5.56 guns under 10" so this would be new to me, however with scarcity of parts, two is one mantra, and just debating which I should get or pull the trigger on both. Love the 8" form factor and have played with it quite a bit in store but never shot it. 11" is a no brainer when it comes to velocity and less flash over the 8", but adding a can to the 11" with the Bren's long receiver makes it quite lengthy. 11" would get the HBI 10.8 handguard and both would get their gas plugs, if I go the both route. Probably form 1 them immediately upon taking delivery.
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Posted: 12/8/2023 9:26:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556sniper]
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Originally Posted By fivepointoh: 8", 11" or both? Both will be suppressed .really can't decide. I have no 5.56 guns under 10" so this would be new to me, however with scarcity of parts, two is one mantra, and just debating which I should get or pull the trigger on both. Love the 8" form factor and have played with it quite a bit in store but never shot it. 11" is a no brainer when it comes to velocity and less flash over the 8", but adding a can to the 11" with the Bren's long receiver makes it quite lengthy. 11" would get the HBI 10.8 handguard and both would get their gas plugs, if I go the both route. Probably form 1 them immediately upon taking delivery. I went the 11" & 8" 'Both' route. Even though they are similar I have each one set up for different purpose. The 11 has the 922r rail 2x Acog and the hbi gas plug to run my nt4 suppressor. The 8 I got strictly as a PDW running Red Dot and Preston Precision bottom rail for the front grip. I do alot of shooting on the move and different positions and this is where the 8 really shines. I also Form 1 each as soon as I got them. Now my new Focus is getting them set up for use with my NODs. 
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USA
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Posted: 12/9/2023 1:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556sniper: I went the 11" & 8" 'Both' route. Even though they are similar I have each one set up for different purpose. The 11 has the 922r rail 2x Acog and the hbi gas plug to run my nt4 suppressor. The 8 I got strictly as a PDW running Red Dot and Preston Precision bottom rail for the front grip. I do alot of shooting on the move and different positions and this is where the 8 really shines. I also Form 1 each as soon as I got them. Now my new Focus is getting them set up for use with my NODs. https://i.imgur.com/QKrjHWz.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556sniper: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: 8", 11" or both? Both will be suppressed .really can't decide. I have no 5.56 guns under 10" so this would be new to me, however with scarcity of parts, two is one mantra, and just debating which I should get or pull the trigger on both. Love the 8" form factor and have played with it quite a bit in store but never shot it. 11" is a no brainer when it comes to velocity and less flash over the 8", but adding a can to the 11" with the Bren's long receiver makes it quite lengthy. 11" would get the HBI 10.8 handguard and both would get their gas plugs, if I go the both route. Probably form 1 them immediately upon taking delivery. I went the 11" & 8" 'Both' route. Even though they are similar I have each one set up for different purpose. The 11 has the 922r rail 2x Acog and the hbi gas plug to run my nt4 suppressor. The 8 I got strictly as a PDW running Red Dot and Preston Precision bottom rail for the front grip. I do alot of shooting on the move and different positions and this is where the 8 really shines. I also Form 1 each as soon as I got them. Now my new Focus is getting them set up for use with my NODs. https://i.imgur.com/QKrjHWz.jpeg |
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Posted: 12/14/2023 4:09:13 PM EDT
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Hi there,
over here we only get our hands on 16.5 Carbines. I like to cut it down to 13“ or so. Are there any informations about the gas ports? Any experience of you guys who went this route? Thank you. Best regards, Robert Berlin |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 11:14:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MyakkaVice]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheGunner: Hi there, over here we only get our hands on 16.5 Carbines. I like to cut it down to 13“ or so. Are there any informations about the gas ports? Any experience of you guys who went this route? Thank you. Best regards, Robert Berlin I'm guessing you would need something like this, but for a 13" https://europe-outdoor.eu/product/cz-bren-2ms-gas-tube-semi-caliber-556x45-223-rem-11-inch-barrel/ https://europe-outdoor.eu/product/cz-bren-2ms-piston-front-11-inch-14-inch-3720-0260-02nd/ |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:56:07 AM EDT
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So what's the deal with the 14" CZ Bren 2 in 7.62x39? Does CZ just not make them anymore, and just make the 9" now? I want an x39 Bren 2, but don't want to go through the SBR process so I'd prefer a 14". I'm surprised these aren't out in the wild so you can get them and do a p/w to 16".
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Posted: 12/28/2023 12:10:48 PM EDT
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If you really wanted one, you could get a 9" and have mos tek make you a barrel.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:35:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Irk]
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I have an 11" 2s, and a 9" 2Ms, both in 7.62x39. I'm keeping the 2s, selling the 2Ms, but can't decide on which barrel to keep: the 11" or 9". Any recommendations?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/30/2023 1:37:09 AM EDT
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Really wish I would’ve snagged a BREN 2S when they were available, the 2MS just lacks in comparison. I did purchase a 2MS (14” in 5.56) since the reality is they’ll never import the 2S ever again.
It would be awesome to see the BREN 2BR make it’s way over here, but with the way things have been going with imports lately I don’t see that happening anytime soon. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 7:50:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: yamahawarrior89]
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 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached Filehttps://knsprecisioninc.com/czech-valve/ Says not available for the 8" 5.56 |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamahawarrior89: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/Screenshot_20240117-184837-701_png-3098034.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/Screenshot_20240117-184857-002_png-3098035.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/Screenshot_20240117-184917-922_png-3098036.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/Screenshot_20240117-185006-413_png-3098038.JPG |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 3:12:41 PM EDT
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Damn, this is exactly what I've been waiting for. My gun still doesn't run correctly with the upgraded cz valve or the hbi valve. Guess we will give this a shot.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 3:43:22 PM EDT
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Just ordered one, my 9" 2S with cz 3 position and hbi spring is still overgassed on low with no can.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 5:42:56 PM EDT
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Those x39 regulators sold out quick. I was gonna grab one in anticipation for when I get my 9".
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Posted: 1/18/2024 10:45:37 PM EDT
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I just said screw it and got a 9" x39. Guess I'll just SBR it.
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Posted: 1/19/2024 11:16:23 AM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2024 3:37:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivepointoh: Those x39 regulators sold out quick. I was gonna grab one in anticipation for when I get my 9". Showing available again. Just grabbed one. |
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Posted: 2/6/2024 6:03:21 PM EDT
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Anyone have any feedback one the KNS "Czech valve" yet?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2024 4:47:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tfdarchos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamahawarrior89: Anyone have any feedback one the KNS "Czech valve" yet? Finally had a chance to get out and try it today. Quick recap, bought 9" 7.62 MS in Feb 2020. Pistol replaced by cz due to ejection issues, replacement had same issues. New CZ valve, HBI drilling, high load spring and proprietary gas valve all had no change in getting my gun to function properly. Shot 100rnds today with the KNS valve suppressed with my 30-SDK and am happy to report perfect function with Golden Tiger and Burnaul after adjusting the valve. Recoil impulse was severely reduced as well. The KNS valve actually let me get a 3 o clock ejection with both types of ammo, where as with all other valves they ejected to the 1 o clock position. This is obviously only 100 rounds, but it's the first time in 4 years that this gun has actually worked and that I've left the range with smile on my face after shooting it. |
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Posted: 2/9/2024 6:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tfdarchos: Finally had a chance to get out and try it today. Quick recap, bought 9" 7.62 MS in Feb 2020. Pistol replaced by cz due to ejection issues, replacement had same issues. New CZ valve, HBI drilling, high load spring and proprietary gas valve all had no change in getting my gun to function properly. Shot 100rnds today with the KNS valve suppressed with my 30-SDK and am happy to report perfect function with Golden Tiger and Burnaul after adjusting the valve. Recoil impulse was severely reduced as well. The KNS valve actually let me get a 3 o clock ejection with both types of ammo, where as with all other valves they ejected to the 1 o clock position. This is obviously only 100 rounds, but it's the first time in 4 years that this gun has actually worked and that I've left the range with smile on my face after shooting it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tfdarchos: Originally Posted By yamahawarrior89: Anyone have any feedback one the KNS "Czech valve" yet? Finally had a chance to get out and try it today. Quick recap, bought 9" 7.62 MS in Feb 2020. Pistol replaced by cz due to ejection issues, replacement had same issues. New CZ valve, HBI drilling, high load spring and proprietary gas valve all had no change in getting my gun to function properly. Shot 100rnds today with the KNS valve suppressed with my 30-SDK and am happy to report perfect function with Golden Tiger and Burnaul after adjusting the valve. Recoil impulse was severely reduced as well. The KNS valve actually let me get a 3 o clock ejection with both types of ammo, where as with all other valves they ejected to the 1 o clock position. This is obviously only 100 rounds, but it's the first time in 4 years that this gun has actually worked and that I've left the range with smile on my face after shooting it. Awesome, appreciate the feedback! I picked up the same gun in May 2023 but haven't shot it yet. Need to get one of these kns valves and give it a go. Will be shot exclusively suppressed, would like to reduce the gas as much as possible |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2024 4:46:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Not sure if you guys saw it, but James from TFBTV did an interview with the CEO of CZ the other day. One of the guns he brought up was the Bren 2. The CEO confirmed they will be releasing a Bren 2 in 300 BLK, but gave no timeframe. No answer specifically on the Bren 2 BR, unfortunately. James mentioned it, but the CEO took that question about the Bren 2 BR and x39 kits and actually used it as a segue into mentioning they're working on a Bren 3/generation 3. As of now there's no timeframe on release for the Bren 3, but he confirmed it'd have improved ergonomics and other additions LE and military have been requesting to the platform. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI86teAa4k8IWA 2024 (basically Euro SHOT Show from what I understand) is coming up soon... wonder if we'll see the 300 BLK Bren 2 there? |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 1:17:59 PM EDT
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Nope, there will be no Bren 2 in .300blk. I guess.
Had the chance to play with one at Shot. The Bren 3 is on the market for LE/Mil by this year. It will also come in .300blk. By 2025 the Bren 3 will be ready for the civilien market. Cheers |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 3:44:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheGunner: Nope, there will be no Bren 2 in .300blk. I guess. Had the chance to play with one at Shot. The Bren 3 is on the market for LE/Mil by this year. It will also come in .300blk. By 2025 the Bren 3 will be ready for the civilien market. Cheers Any word on what the Bren 3 will be doing differently than the Bren 2? The only thing I have heard is "better ergos" but that's it. |
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Posted: 2/16/2024 7:33:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UMP45_Enthusiast: Any word on what the Bren 3 will be doing differently than the Bren 2? The only thing I have heard is "better ergos" but that's it. Hopefully one of the features is that it works... |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 4:44:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UMP45_Enthusiast: Any word on what the Bren 3 will be doing differently than the Bren 2? The only thing I have heard is "better ergos" but that's it. Like I wrote… there are actually only 3 „upgrades“. The Handguard, the rails for the bolt carrier and the gas port assembly. The lower is the same. A better grip angle would be nice…but no. Cheers! |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 6:49:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mk4dubbin]
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:57:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Why does the euro bren 2 have a longer gas system and longer handguard? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/145358/Screenshot_20230313_093508_Instagram_jpg-3132502.JPG Because they get the good stuff... It has the same length gas block just a longer regulator (Think Gen 1 HBI handguard) for the longer handguard. I would really like this Euro one. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 12:54:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MagnusActual: Because they get the good stuff... It has the same length gas block just a longer regulator (Think Gen 1 HBI handguard) for the longer handguard. I would really like this Euro one. Agreed. That's a really slick looking gun. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:14:29 PM EDT
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Good deal on 7.8" handguards at modern warrior with code spring30. I was going to snag their last 10.8" but went oos as I was checking out
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Posted: 2/23/2024 12:11:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Why does the euro bren 2 have a longer gas system and longer handguard? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/145358/Screenshot_20230313_093508_Instagram_jpg-3132502.JPG It’s just the euro carbine hand guard on a what looks like an 11 inch barrel .with a gas regulator extension. Gas system is still in normal position. |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 12:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BisonWorld: It’s just the euro carbine hand guard on a what looks like an 11 inch barrel .with a gas regulator extension. Gas system is still in normal position. Looks a lot more functional than the sad little handguard we get. |
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Posted: 3/1/2024 10:01:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/9/2024 1:02:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zeebz]
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Posted: 3/10/2024 7:22:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2024 7:00:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2024 2:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Looks a lot more functional than the sad little handguard we get. Not really, but whatever floats your boat. The Euro ones are quite a bit heavier, deform easier under rough handling, and are a bigger pain to assemble, mine just sit in boxes. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 1:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Hopefully one of the features is that it works... |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 5:27:56 AM EDT
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I am not sure if there would be any interest, but I was looking through my "projects box" and found a new acr stock and a bren 2 adapter with it. I had intended to buy a bren 2 but I never got around to it.
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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:49:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: yamahawarrior89]
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Picked up one of the KNS Czech Valves for the 7.62x39 9" pistol.
The regulator has 3 settings, gas port sizes are: .059" .070" .115"  Attached File Attached FileFor the vented portion, there are 2 holes, as you adjust it, it closes it off. Those port sizes are both .039"  Attached File Attached FileThe intermediate piston I guess I'll call it, is sort of vented like a vented AK piston. Those holes are .138" and 180 degrees apart. The top is cone shaped while the stock one is square.  Attached FileWhen installed, the vent ports are in the 11, 12, and 1 o'clock positions depending on which setting you choose.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/31/2024 11:52:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: yamahawarrior89]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamahawarrior89: Picked up one of the KNS Czech Valves for the 7.62x39 9" pistol. The regulator has 3 settings, gas port sizes are: .059" .070" .115" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20240331_113548323_jpg-3174573.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20240331_113556872_jpg-3174574.JPG For the vented portion, there are 2 holes, as you adjust it, it closes it off. Those port sizes are both .039" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20240331_113525813_jpg-3174575.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20240331_113812989_jpg-3174576.JPG The intermediate piston I guess I'll call it, is sort of vented like a vented AK piston. Those holes are .138" and 180 degrees apart. The top is cone shaped while the stock one is square. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20240331_113612223_jpg-3174577.JPG The stock valve I have is a revised 3 position version, purchased the gun new in the end of May 2023. The intermediate piston is vented with two .138" holes as well. The fit between the piston and the adjuster is tighter on the stock on compared to the kns. The port sizes are as follows: .055" .067" .071"  Attached File Attached File |
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