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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:00:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Clay408]
I am the proud owner of a new Rugged Obsidian 45 and 9.
I discovered that I can add the module portion of the Obsidian 45 to the end of the full length Obsidian 9. Will this result in a baffle strike or other malfunction if used with a 9mm handgun? Does that change depending on the end cap size (9 vs 45)? Or will it increase sound suppression? (my intention) Best, Clay Edit: Would it also work the other way around? 9 module attached to full length 45 with either endcap, shooting 9mm ammo. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:27:54 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:56:50 PM EDT
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Lol. I'm pretty sure it's illegal
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:06:46 PM EDT
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Go ahead and get the Griffin Ez lok system or be prepared for end cap strikes and baffle strikes. I had one just this past weekend. Google is your friend on this.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Another-baffle-strike-with-my-Obsidian-9-now-with-comms-from-Rugged/20-551435/?page=1 |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:14:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mav3rick]
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Posted: 4/24/2024 7:34:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zpduff: Lol. I'm pretty sure it's illegal Why would you think that? There are many suppressors that you can change the length by adding and removing pieces. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 9:11:01 AM EDT
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I'd think you'd be totally fine. I'd put the 45 modular section on the full length 9mm and shoot it that way.
Hell I guess I'm glad I only have a obsidian 9 at my disposal, cause if I had both I know what I'd be doing today. Thanks for this little nugget of info, OP. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 11:57:46 AM EDT
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You are right, now that I think about it. The form 4 specifies the suppressor length, which includes both lengths with/without the module. So if I extended it by combining parts from both suppressors, it would no longer be the same suppressor identified by the form 4 and therefore illegal. Sheesh....
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:40:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clay408: You are right, now that I think about it. The form 4 specifies the suppressor length, which includes both lengths with/without the module. So if I extended it by combining parts from both suppressors, it would no longer be the same suppressor identified by the form 4 and therefore illegal. Sheesh.... who would know? |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 6:17:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DMG-LDS: who would know? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DMG-LDS: Originally Posted By Clay408: You are right, now that I think about it. The form 4 specifies the suppressor length, which includes both lengths with/without the module. So if I extended it by combining parts from both suppressors, it would no longer be the same suppressor identified by the form 4 and therefore illegal. Sheesh.... who would know? how is that any differnet from switching uppers on a factory SBR ar15? |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 7:27:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Glocked]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PvtJoeBauers: Why would you think that? There are many suppressors that you can change the length by adding and removing pieces. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PvtJoeBauers: Originally Posted By zpduff: Lol. I'm pretty sure it's illegal Why would you think that? There are many suppressors that you can change the length by adding and removing pieces. I believe I’ve seen some of the manufacturers here mention before that ATF’s issue is with changes, modifications, and upgrades to a silencer that make it bigger than it originally was. I could just be misremembering what I read though, maybe one of them can say for sure. |
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Posted: 4/25/2024 10:56:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: how is that any differnet from switching uppers on a factory SBR ar15? Because the rules are different for cans. It is illegal to add length or change caliber. Stupid, but reality. Removable mounts/adapters are generally not considered to alter OAL. Modules or reflex chambers are not mounts & adapters, though. They are silencer parts. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECCO_Machine: Because the rules are different for cans. It is illegal to add length or change caliber. Stupid, but reality. Removable mounts/adapters are generally not considered to alter OAL. Modules or reflex chambers are not mounts & adapters, though. They are silencer parts. Dammit! An expert. I was enjoying the what-ifs and lamentations about possibly breaking the law but you had to come in here and ruin it. 
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